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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2014, 11:17:50 AM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2014, 12:48:18 PM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

my guess is this happened earlier in the year and he caught it on tape and was just waiting for the correct time to use it.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2014, 12:51:48 PM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

my guess is this happened earlier in the year and he caught it on tape and was just waiting for the correct time to use it.

I think he just anticipated it because they hadn't used Boykin as a punt returner before our game. But he (or other coaches) probably knew that they kept their regular defense on the field for a safe punt return, so when Boykin came out to return it is was easy to point out to the official.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2014, 01:11:19 PM »
that was probably the most incredible thing ive ever seen. pure genius.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2014, 01:51:27 PM »
yeah, you have to love his insane attention to detail.  pretty amazing.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2014, 01:55:02 PM »
Just changed my mind.  I am in favor of this rule.  #1Cat

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 09:08:23 AM »
List of teams that this rule would hurt

Baylor  :jerk:
Oregon :jerk:
Texas A&M :jerk:
Texas Tech  :jerk: (except for Kliffy)
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Sorry, I can't find a eff to give about any of them

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2014, 09:19:07 AM »
List of teams that this rule would hurt

Baylor  :jerk:
Oregon :jerk:
Texas A&M :jerk:
Texas Tech  :jerk: (except for Kliffy)
more

Sorry, I can't find a eff to give about any of them

Okie St too  :jerk:

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2014, 09:25:54 AM »
List of teams that this rule would hurt

Baylor  :jerk:
Oregon :jerk:
Texas A&M :jerk:
Texas Tech  :jerk: (except for Kliffy)
more

Sorry, I can't find a eff to give about any of them

Okie St too  :jerk:

Oh definitely, Mike Gundy :jerk::jerk::jerk::jerk::jerk:

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2014, 09:50:50 AM »
If they implement this rule, I intend to apply it retroactively.  Thus, we beat Baylor in 2011 and obviously win the National title.

Pretty big call by the NCAA on whether to crown the Cats as 2012 champs

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2014, 10:05:09 AM »
If they implement this rule, I intend to apply it retroactively.  Thus, we beat Baylor in 2011 and obviously win the National title.

Pretty big call by the NCAA on whether to crown the Cats as 2012 champs

We should AtM this thing, and just place the orders now for the numbers and lettering to be put up on the press box.

Man, National Champions 2012 is going to be a glorious unveiling.

 

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2014, 10:11:09 AM »
i'll always remember where i was when we won the 2012 national championship

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2014, 07:16:26 PM »
take the retroactive national title talk to its rightful place the Auburn thread

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2014, 01:26:46 PM »
Under current rules, the defense can sub whenever it wants, correct?  For example, a team is marching down the field.  A corner gets tired, he can step off the field and be replaced at any time, even if the offense doesn't sub, however the corner subbing in isn't guaranteed an opportunity to get in position or anything, yes?


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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2014, 01:41:16 PM »
On average Baylor snapped the ball within 6 seconds of the start of each new play clock last season.  With the 10 second rule in place I wonder how effective that no huddle offense will be.  Is 10 seconds enough time for the defense to sniff out the play? 

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2014, 01:55:11 PM »
Under current rules, the defense can sub whenever it wants, correct?  For example, a team is marching down the field.  A corner gets tired, he can step off the field and be replaced at any time, even if the offense doesn't sub, however the corner subbing in isn't guaranteed an opportunity to get in position or anything, yes?

I'm pretty sure they can't sub unless the offense does.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2014, 02:12:48 PM »
Under current rules, the defense can sub whenever it wants, correct?  For example, a team is marching down the field.  A corner gets tired, he can step off the field and be replaced at any time, even if the offense doesn't sub, however the corner subbing in isn't guaranteed an opportunity to get in position or anything, yes?

I'm pretty sure they can't sub unless the offense does.

I think you can, but if the offense subs then you have a time frame in which you're allowed to sub. If you try to sub during a no huddle offense when they are not subbing themselves, you most likely won't be able to switch out personnel in time.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2014, 02:14:31 PM »
Under current rules, the defense can sub whenever it wants, correct?  For example, a team is marching down the field.  A corner gets tired, he can step off the field and be replaced at any time, even if the offense doesn't sub, however the corner subbing in isn't guaranteed an opportunity to get in position or anything, yes?

I'm pretty sure they can't sub unless the offense does.

I think you can, but if the offense subs then you have a time frame in which you're allowed to sub. If you try to sub during a no huddle offense when they are not subbing themselves, you most likely won't be able to switch out personnel in time.

I think I agree with Stevsie:

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2014, 03:33:44 PM »

On average Baylor snapped the ball within 6 seconds of the start of each new play clock last season.  With the 10 second rule in place I wonder how effective that no huddle offense will be.  Is 10 seconds enough time for the defense to sniff out the play?

That's part of the benefit that Baylor is looking for, but they also want to maximize the number of total plays they run.  If they have a material reduction in the number of plays, then it's likely they score fewer points over the course of season, if not also within individual games...at least I suspect that they think that way.

As a college football fan, I despise this proposed rule change.  However, go cats, so eff yeah enact that rule. FTB.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2014, 04:02:24 PM »

On average Baylor snapped the ball within 6 seconds of the start of each new play clock last season.  With the 10 second rule in place I wonder how effective that no huddle offense will be.  Is 10 seconds enough time for the defense to sniff out the play?

That's part of the benefit that Baylor is looking for, but they also want to maximize the number of total plays they run.  If they have a material reduction in the number of plays, then it's likely they score fewer points over the course of season, if not also within individual games...at least I suspect that they think that way.

As a college football fan, I despise this proposed rule change.  However, go cats, so eff yeah enact that rule. FTB.

They had better be very, very cautious with their play selection.  If defenses start catching on and are successful at stopping that offense Baylor is screwed, because their defense is awful!  Phil Bennett gets way too much credit IMO.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2014, 06:48:33 PM »

On average Baylor snapped the ball within 6 seconds of the start of each new play clock last season.  With the 10 second rule in place I wonder how effective that no huddle offense will be.  Is 10 seconds enough time for the defense to sniff out the play?

That's part of the benefit that Baylor is looking for, but they also want to maximize the number of total plays they run.  If they have a material reduction in the number of plays, then it's likely they score fewer points over the course of season, if not also within individual games...at least I suspect that they think that way.

As a college football fan, I despise this proposed rule change.  However, go cats, so eff yeah enact that rule. FTB.

I mean yeah it would probably benefit us, but for the sport as a whole it's awful. eff legislating against innovation.
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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2014, 01:03:17 AM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

Would be a great story if it were true. The official who threw the flag was on the opposite side of the field, literally farther away from LHC Bill Snyder as anyone else on the field. The television broadcast made it seem like he drew the flag but when he pointed it out to the official on that half of the field the flag was already thrown by another guy.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2014, 01:42:07 AM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

Would be a great story if it were true. The official who threw the flag was on the opposite side of the field, literally farther away from LHC Bill Snyder as anyone else on the field. The television broadcast made it seem like he drew the flag but when he pointed it out to the official on that half of the field the flag was already thrown by another guy.

Bill saw the flag and explained it to the ref at midfield or bill informed the official at midfield but another official caught it already? Because if it's the latter, still effing awesome attention to detail. Go Bill!

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2014, 08:26:57 AM »

On average Baylor snapped the ball within 6 seconds of the start of each new play clock last season.  With the 10 second rule in place I wonder how effective that no huddle offense will be.  Is 10 seconds enough time for the defense to sniff out the play?

That's part of the benefit that Baylor is looking for, but they also want to maximize the number of total plays they run.  If they have a material reduction in the number of plays, then it's likely they score fewer points over the course of season, if not also within individual games...at least I suspect that they think that way.

As a college football fan, I despise this proposed rule change.  However, go cats, so eff yeah enact that rule. FTB.

I'm not even completely sure this rule change benefits us. We lose games that we can't dominate TOP in. We couldn't even beat NDSU.

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Re: Nick Saban, unable to stop no-huddle offense, whines to mom to make it stop
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2014, 08:50:29 AM »
The funny part is that Bill was the one that had to point out when TCU had two #2's no the field.

Would be a great story if it were true. The official who threw the flag was on the opposite side of the field, literally farther away from LHC Bill Snyder as anyone else on the field. The television broadcast made it seem like he drew the flag but when he pointed it out to the official on that half of the field the flag was already thrown by another guy.

Bill saw the flag and explained it to the ref at midfield or bill informed the official at midfield but another official caught it already? Because if it's the latter, still effing awesome attention to detail. Go Bill!

The ref looked a little lost out there, so Bill took the opportunity to work in some mentoring.