What a guy our old FRANK is!

[MakeItRain]

Yeah that comment was really stupid, there was no dwindling momentum.  We won a ncaa tournament game, had most of the team returning, a training facility being built, one of the most heralded recruits joining the team, great ticket sales, etc., etc., etc. That sentence encapsulates dax's misplaced Frankrage.

but, we didn't have most of the team returning.  remember?  This is another one of the reasons ADJC fired Frank, remember?  Because Will, Southwell, and JO all complained to the AD behind FM's back and they were going to transfer if Frank came back, or so the story goes.

JO was not on that list. You forget about JO doing his NBA workouts at USC and not K-State?

[Trim]

Frank's last real recruiting class, 1 really good player, 1 pretty good player, then Omari Lawrence, Jeremy Jones, James Watson and Adrian Diaz.   Yet Frankites are really gonna stick to their "improvement" talking point on recruiting?  6 Tries and he gets 1 good player, 1 decent player?   

In a single paragraph, you downgraded a "really good player" to a "good player" and a "pretty good player" to a "decent player."

Angel was good, and I don't know what to think about Gip, he's either pretty good at times or a complete dumpster fire.

But the point still remains, Frank was recruiting with an Elite 8 Run story gift wrapped for presentation and that's the class he lands.   

Keep going.  2 more posts and you might have Angel as a smaller Chris Griffin and Gip being Manny Dies without the intensity.

[sonofdaxjones]

Frank's last real recruiting class, 1 really good player, 1 pretty good player, then Omari Lawrence, Jeremy Jones, James Watson and Adrian Diaz.   Yet Frankites are really gonna stick to their "improvement" talking point on recruiting?  6 Tries and he gets 1 good player, 1 decent player?   

In a single paragraph, you downgraded a "really good player" to a "good player" and a "pretty good player" to a "decent player."

Angel was good, and I don't know what to think about Gip, he's either pretty good at times or a complete dumpster fire.

But the point still remains, Frank was recruiting with an Elite 8 Run story gift wrapped for presentation and that's the class he lands.   

Keep going.  2 more posts and you might have Angel as a smaller Chris Griffin and Gip being Manny Dies without the intensity.

Trim you're in a semantics debate now because you just remembered that's the recruiting class Frank landed after an Elite 8 run.

[Trim]

Frank's last real recruiting class, 1 really good player, 1 pretty good player, then Omari Lawrence, Jeremy Jones, James Watson and Adrian Diaz.   Yet Frankites are really gonna stick to their "improvement" talking point on recruiting?  6 Tries and he gets 1 good player, 1 decent player?   

In a single paragraph, you downgraded a "really good player" to a "good player" and a "pretty good player" to a "decent player."

Angel was good, and I don't know what to think about Gip, he's either pretty good at times or a complete dumpster fire.

But the point still remains, Frank was recruiting with an Elite 8 Run story gift wrapped for presentation and that's the class he lands.   

Keep going.  2 more posts and you might have Angel as a smaller Chris Griffin and Gip being Manny Dies without the intensity.

Trim you're in a semantics debate now because you just remembered that's the recruiting class Frank landed after an Elite 8 run.

I'm not mad about that recruiting class.  I had my damn Discover Card that I use at Sam's Club changed to the Puerto Rico flag version for eff's sake.

[420seriouscat69]

Gip overall is pretty good, but you have to give oscar credit for his development

[Trim]

Also, no disrespect to my man Chris Griffin.  All disrespect to sonofdaxjones.

[sonofdaxjones]

Frank's last real recruiting class, 1 really good player, 1 pretty good player, then Omari Lawrence, Jeremy Jones, James Watson and Adrian Diaz.   Yet Frankites are really gonna stick to their "improvement" talking point on recruiting?  6 Tries and he gets 1 good player, 1 decent player?   

In a single paragraph, you downgraded a "really good player" to a "good player" and a "pretty good player" to a "decent player."

Angel was good, and I don't know what to think about Gip, he's either pretty good at times or a complete dumpster fire.

But the point still remains, Frank was recruiting with an Elite 8 Run story gift wrapped for presentation and that's the class he lands.   

Keep going.  2 more posts and you might have Angel as a smaller Chris Griffin and Gip being Manny Dies without the intensity.

Trim you're in a semantics debate now because you just remembered that's the recruiting class Frank landed after an Elite 8 run.

I'm not mad about that recruiting class.  I had my damn Discover Card that I use at Sam's Club changed to the Puerto Rico flag version for eff's sake.

An opportunity to create a powerhouse with 6 rides available and he lands a good guard and a serviceable big guy . . . fantastic, yet sad.

Sorry trim.

[michigancat]

Hip overall is pretty good, but you have to give oscar credit for his development.

Except for when he does poorly or when his name rhymes with Rad Thing. Obviously.

[Trim]

1 pretty good player

a serviceable big guy

OT: Can I change CF3's name here to "a serviceable big guy?"

[420seriouscat69]

Hip overall is pretty good, but you have to give oscar credit for his development.

Except for when he does poorly or when his name rhymes with Rad Thing. Obviously.

Nobody can help that dork. He's a lost cause. Sprads has gotten progressively worse every year of his career.

[wetwillie]

Frank's last real recruiting class, 1 really good player, 1 pretty good player, then Omari Lawrence, Jeremy Jones, James Watson and Adrian Diaz.   Yet Frankites are really gonna stick to their "improvement" talking point on recruiting?  6 Tries and he gets 1 good player, 1 decent player?   

In a single paragraph, you downgraded a "really good player" to a "good player" and a "pretty good player" to a "decent player."

Angel was good, and I don't know what to think about Gip, he's either pretty good at times or a complete dumpster fire.

But the point still remains, Frank was recruiting with an Elite 8 Run story gift wrapped for presentation and that's the class he lands.   

Keep going.  2 more posts and you might have Angel as a smaller Chris Griffin and Gip being Manny Dies without the intensity.

Trim you're in a semantics debate now because you just remembered that's the recruiting class Frank landed after an Elite 8 run.

I'm not mad about that recruiting class.  I had my damn Discover Card that I use at Sam's Club changed to the Puerto Rico flag version for eff's sake.

An opportunity to create a powerhouse with 6 rides available and he lands a good guard and a serviceable big guy . . . fantastic, yet sad.

Sorry trim.

Next level daxing my word. 

[MakeItRain]

18 months into the new job, new AD, already forced to publicly apologize to player(s) and fans.

This isn't rocket surgery kids.

False

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/sec/2014/01/21/frank-martin-south-carolina-apologizes-tirade-brenton-williams/4723279/

"South Carolina coach Frank Martin has apologized for a tirade directed at guard Brenton Williams in the first half in the Gamecocks' loss to Mississippi on Saturday.  Martin says he went too far after getting caught up in the moment. Martin also apologized to fans around South Carolina's bench [i.e. powerful boosters] who heard the exchange."

I presume no apology would have been issued, but for the boosters hearing FM trash his player.  I also presume that the upset boosters took their grievance to the AD who, in turn, took action. 

No, I don't have any facts to support this obvious theory.

Well I have facts. No where in that article did it state that he was forced to apologize, Frank said on 810 that no one asked him to apologize, he did it on his own.

The same guy who said he never demeans players.

link? Frank said in that same 810 interview that he apologized to Williams because Frank felt he demeaned him. You are working really hard to keep this up dax.

[Stevesie60]

In a couple decades, Beems will post identical to how dax has been posting in this thread.

[sonofdaxjones]

Expansive discussion in Tuck land with a direct quote from Frank's time with BITB"

"Never, in my career, have I demeaned a player..."

So, even though it's tuck land, 30 people didn't hear that correctly?

"I'm listening and I spit my coffee out when he said that. LOL."

[Trim]

In a couple decades, Beems will post identical to how dax has been posting in this thread.

I want there to be an empire strikes back moment where it's revealed Dax is Beems' father.  sonofsonofdaxjones.

eff, forgot this was a star trek board.

[sonofdaxjones]

Honestly, if any other coach at K-State besides Frank went out and signed a recruiting class that contained 2 legit D1 players and 4 busts just two years removed from an Elite 8 run (or any other kind of similar run in another sport), the Frankites would be absolutely out of their minds with rage.

Many of the same people took years (me included I will admit) to quit melting down over Snyder's recruiting classes.

[420seriouscat69]

I think the main thing that pisses me off w/ #TeamBID'rs, is they can't give credit where credit is do. Is oscar a dork? Yes. Did we know he'd have success last year? Yes. Did we think he'd win a conference? No. Did we think he'd regroup this year w/ a underrated FR class this year? No. They'd rather be right then celebrate the surprise success we have. Some of these #bid supporters are really smart too. Like lawyer smart, but still beg for this guy to fall on his face.

[Cartierfor3]

1 pretty good player

a serviceable big guy

OT: Can I change CF3's name here to "a serviceable big guy?"

Better than GuillermoDiazFor3, be my guest

[MakeItRain]

Expansive discussion in Tuck land with a direct quote from Frank's time with BITB"

"Never, in my career, have I demeaned a player..."

So, even though it's tuck land, 30 people didn't hear that correctly?

"I'm listening and I spit my coffee out when he said that. LOL."

Why do you keep cutting that quote in half?

BTW whatever he said to Williams must have been horrendous

[MakeItRain]

I think the main thing that pisses me off w/ #TeamBID'rs, is they can't give credit where credit is do. Is oscar a dork? Yes. Did we know he'd have success last year? Yes. Did we think he'd win a conference? No. Did we think he'd regroup this year w/ a underrated FR class this year? No. They'd rather be right then celebrate the surprise success we have. Some of these #bid supporters are really smart too. Like lawyer smart, but still beg for this guy to fall on his face.

Are you passive aggressively referring to anyone else but trim?

[OregonSmock]

In a couple decades, Beems will post identical to how dax has been posting in this thread.

That might make sense if I didn't disagree with him on just about everything, including Frank.   


 

[ChiComCat]

Honestly, if any other coach at K-State besides Frank went out and signed recruiting class that contained 2 legit D1 players and 4 busts just two years removed from an Elite 8 run (or any other kind of similar run in another sport), the Frankites would be absolutely out of their minds with rage.

I like how you use the Elite 8 run as a negative for Frank's tenure.

If any KSU B-Ball coach takes a team to the Elite 8 and follows it up with back to back NCAA tournament appearances with wins, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt on their recruiting.

[sonofdaxjones]

Expansive discussion in Tuck land with a direct quote from Frank's time with BITB"

"Never, in my career, have I demeaned a player..."

So, even though it's tuck land, 30 people didn't hear that correctly?

"I'm listening and I spit my coffee out when he said that. LOL."

Why do you keep cutting that quote in half?

BTW whatever he said to Williams must have been horrendous

Whether I cut the quote in half or not, doesn't change the outright BS that spewed forth from Frank's mouth, does he really think we're deaf and dumb?

[420seriouscat69]

I think the main thing that pisses me off w/ #TeamBID'rs, is they can't give credit where credit is do. Is oscar a dork? Yes. Did we know he'd have success last year? Yes. Did we think he'd win a conference? No. Did we think he'd regroup this year w/ a underrated FR class this year? No. They'd rather be right then celebrate the surprise success we have. Some of these #bid supporters are really smart too. Like lawyer smart, but still beg for this guy to fall on his face.

Are you passive aggressively referring to anyone else but trim?

I mean there's more than a few, but trim would rather troll this guy all day long on Twitter, than see the cats be successful. I mean are these ppl team cats or not?

[Jackstack99EMAW]

Wasnt Frank the main guy on Pullen?  Gift wrapped is way too strong.  Beasley and Walker left after just a year, who else was gift wrapped for him?