Richard Sherman hates Crabtree, loves L.L. Bean

[Dugout DickStone]

i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."

He yelled rick.  pretty loud too.   

[Fedor]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

[Dr Rick Daris]

i mean seriously though...

"what's that??! he did what!?!?! oh no he didn't! he called another person mediocre??!! that's it, go get me the laptop. i am going to just go off on twitter about this. mediocre?! i mean what is the world even coming to!?!? i mean they have to fine him or not let him play in the super bowl, right? mediocre. wow, just wow. just when you thought you've heard it all. i'm just so mad i could spit! mediocre, huh? man the nerve."

He yelled rick.  pretty loud too.   

"hey honey! did you hear about the crazy incident that happened after the nfl game the other day"
"no. what happened?"
"a player talked really loudly. it was the worst thing i've ever seen. go get the kids right now, we're going to start home schooling"

[michigancat]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

[Fedor]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium? 

[star seed 7]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

I don't think it's just a black thing, America likes it's celebrities humble and well spoken. Unless of course it's a honey booboo thing for comedy effect.

['taterblast]

no, i hate honey boo boo

[Fedor]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

I don't think it's just a black thing, America likes it's celebrities humble and well spoken. Unless of course it's a honey booboo thing for comedy effect.

Me -> <-seven 
We are destroying fools ITT.

[star seed 7]

I'm not destroying anyone. It's a discussion.

[MadCat]

The guys on WIBW radio yesterday afternoon referenced an earlier interview with Priest Holmes.  In it, Priest admitted to not knowing how players can do on-field interviews immediately at the end of a game due to the fact that the players essentially assume a different personality during a game.  Having to immediately switch off that persona and return to their civil selves once the mic and camera are in their face takes quite a bit of effort.

[Fedor]

I'm not destroying anyone. It's a discussion.

That was a very humble and well spoken statement seven.

[MakeItRain]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

[mocat]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26

[MakeItRain]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

No. I've discovered the line between arrogant and confident gets moved around quite a bit.

[yoga-like_abana]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

doesn't being controversial always get strong view points one way or the other. he also changed his name to a muslim name and called frazier an uncle tom and said anyone cheering for him was an uncle tom among other things

[Rage Against the McKee]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

No. I've discovered the line between arrogant and confident gets moved around quite a bit.

Do you have any examples? I find that people hate arrogant players while they are still playing and love them when they retire, but I could be wrong. I know my grandpa still hates Joe Namath.

[MakeItRain]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26

Well I'm not 26 and you're going to have to take my word on this one. There are plenty of old people reading this who hated Ali until he lit that torch, most if not all won't admit it though. Ali got no endorsements, Cosell got as much grief and death that's as Ali because he befriended him. This is all documented.

[Fedor]

can anyone show me when a white guy (or hell, even another black guy) reacted this way in a postgame interview?  maybe the reaction is because of jackassery, not because of race.

Who exactly are you referring to? There was clearly lots of negative reaction that was real racist and some that were not.

The debate that followed your post lost me a bit, is anyone here seriously attempting to debate to debate that America doesn't prefer its black humble and well spoken?

Doesn't America prefer it's white the same way?

If John mcenroe is any indication, they're fine with white athletes being rude and arrogant as long as they poke fun at themselves in a credit card commercial.

Sounds really similar to Muhammad Ali.  Is there any examples from this millennium?

Ali was perhaps the most hated athlete ever, he didn't become beloved until he got Parkinson's and stopped talking

i just don't know about that one but i am only 26

Well I'm not 26 and you're going to have to take my word on this one. There are plenty of old people reading this who hated Ali until he lit that torch, most if not all won't admit it though. Ali got no endorsements, Cosell got as much grief and death that's as Ali because he befriended him. This is all documented.

I am not 26 either and you are greatly exaggerating the timing of Ali's redemption, it started much earlier than 1996.  I am not saying that there are those that will hate him until their dying day (if you think there are any like that on this blog go ahead and name names!).  Cosell was indeed widely hated for plenty of other reasons than befriending Ali, jewish, a former lawyer, and "an early adopter of unpopular causes and a giant target for Americans everywhere".

[MakeItRain]

It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

[star seed 7]

It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

blackpeoplemeet.com?  no thoughts on it at all.  people have their preferences in a partner, and i don't consider that racist.

[MakeItRain]

It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

I still don't understand why it was a prevailing thought, I mean the people were white. When I go to worldstarhiphop or bossip I don't have the craven need to read about or see white people acting stupidly.

[star seed 7]

It's really a fruitless exercise to play point counterpoint on this issue. There is going to be a white counter for every point brought up. First of all I don't think anyone is debating that all of these issues happen to both races, however with black athletes I feel like the intensity and anger is significantly greater and of course the character knocks are coupled with race tinged language. Also it should be known that it isn't just white people lashing out when stuff like this happens, Bomani had several tweets from black people saying stupid crap about Sherman.

Also since we are talking about this now and I won't ruin a thread with this question; seven in that thread that listed the 30 white people should be stopped why did you ask for a black one? Did you feel a sense of injustice by white people observing other white people doing stupid stuff? Do you think blackpeoplemeet.com is racist?

what i saw in that link was 30 stupid people (well, a couple were just dorky).  i felt stupidity was the common factor, not their whiteness, and my comment was showing the absurdity of grouping them as such.

I still don't understand why it was a prevailing thought, I mean the people were white. When I go to worldstarhiphop or bossip I don't have the craven need to read about or see white people acting stupidly.

i think you are misunderstanding me completely.  i didn't have a desire to read about black people acting stupidly, and i didn't feel a white injustice was happening.  the comment was 100 percent sarcastic about how it's just as dumb to make a list of stupid white people as it is to make list of stupid black people. if the title was "30 stupid people" and only contained white people in it, i wouldn't have even noticed.

[Trim]

Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

[star seed 7]

Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

crap 

good thing i was josh shea before josh shea was josh shea and don't go to games 

[Trim]

Oh man, under my new Sherman Act, seven's gonna have to sit with all the anti-Sherman'rs at cat games instead of his buds.

crap 

good thing i was josh shea before josh shea was josh shea and don't go to games 

What about the bars?