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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #75 on: January 22, 2014, 09:17:21 AM »
free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%).  a small part of the immorality of tipping.

Getting free drinks is overrated. I have had bartender friends who have offered them and I almost always refuse, or demand that they ring them up. For one, it doesn't save me any money. If you give me $11 in free drinks, I'm just going to transfer the drink cost over to your tip - so now you're getting $11 from me rather than the owner. So in reality, a bartender friend who offers you a free drink isn't offering you anything at all; rather, they are making a SELFISH and IMMORAL decision!

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« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2014, 09:19:22 AM »
do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.

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« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2014, 09:20:55 AM »
do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.

usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2014, 09:23:46 AM »
yes. the delivery driver is getting completely screwed by the company he/she works for, and is using his/her own vehicle and gasoline to bring your lazy ass food.

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2014, 09:26:17 AM »
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« Reply #80 on: January 22, 2014, 09:27:35 AM »
I'm convinced sys and jrake are the same person


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« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2014, 09:31:28 AM »
do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.

usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.

Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.

A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

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« Reply #82 on: January 22, 2014, 09:33:44 AM »
I tip the Jimmy Johns delivery person $4 every time I make them drive the 5 blocks to my house. It's very much worth it to me.

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« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2014, 09:42:33 AM »
do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.

usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.

Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.

A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

ok. well, like, I guess I was meaning relative to the amount of work theyre doing. the 8 pizzas are DEFINITELY heavier than just a single pizza, but I think the driving is more work than the actual carrying of pizzas. they get compensated by the pizza company for their gas mileage, so me tipping on top of that is just for their work (a majority of which is the driving). im not a bad person for tipping the same amount. if it takes the guy two trips from his car to bring me all the pizza, sure, ill tip more. but if hes carrying it all in that little plastic oven thing, im tipping $2-3. waiters and bartenders do work at different times and take care of me every time, and I usually tip them $1 for the drink or 20% of the bill. pizza guy does work once, so he gets tipped for that.

and I usually go pick up my pizzas because im not lazy. if I order pizza, its because im drunk and cant drive, or people are over at my place.
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2014, 09:44:50 AM »
do you guys tip delivery drivers? you should definitely tip delivery drivers a crap load.

usually tip between $2-3. if its shitty weather out, ill tip $4 maybe. I don't think the 20% thing comes to play here. it takes the same amount of work to carry a pizza to my door as it does to carry 8 pizzas.

Please explain that to us. If you are going to spend $80 on pizza and leave a $2 tip this makes you a bad person. 20% may be a little high here, but 10% seems pretty reasonable.

A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

ok. well, like, I guess I was meaning relative to the amount of work theyre doing. the 8 pizzas are DEFINITELY heavier than just a single pizza, but I think the driving is more work than the actual carrying of pizzas. they get compensated by the pizza company for their gas mileage, so me tipping on top of that is just for their work (a majority of which is the driving). im not a bad person for tipping the same amount. if it takes the guy two trips from his car to bring me all the pizza, sure, ill tip more. but if hes carrying it all in that little plastic oven thing, im tipping $2-3. waiters and bartenders do work at different times and take care of me every time, and I usually tip them $1 for the drink or 20% of the bill. pizza guy does work once, so he gets tipped for that.

and I usually go pick up my pizzas because im not lazy. if I order pizza, its because im drunk and cant drive, or people are over at my place.

they don't get compensated. It's minimum wage plus tips only. That "delivery fee" you get charged doesn't go to the driver at all.

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2014, 09:47:57 AM »
Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.

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« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2014, 09:51:58 AM »
Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.

then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2014, 09:53:57 AM »
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.

i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.

so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.

and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2014, 09:56:40 AM »
I don't think your story happened, rake, because you didn't post a thread here asking for advice on how much or if to tip the mailman

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« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.

i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.

so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.

and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.

you pay taxes for the postal service...
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2014, 10:05:06 AM »
I don't think your story happened, rake, because you didn't post a thread here asking for advice on how much or if to tip the mailman

you couldn't be more wrong. because it just so happens that i have a ton of respect for WARRIORS like mail men and newspaper delivery people, as a former paper boy myself. when i was a kid, i had a paper route, and my neighborhood did NOT take care of me. i will never forget these people.

every morning, around 4:45 a.m., i would wake up, bundle my 31 newspapers, tie a rubber band around them and place the papers in the desired location - tucked inside the mail box; inside the door; on the porch under the mat; and so on. one guy made me walk through his backyard, past a barking dog, and then had me ENTER HIS HOUSE so that his paper could be placed on a wooden bench.

i was 12 years old, out battling the elements, turning down sleep overs and video-game tournaments with my friends on weekends so that these grumpy old folks could read their Sunday funnies and find out, at the earliest possible time, that our world was under attack or that we were headed to war or that Bill Clinton did something terrible.

so don't tell me my story is made up because it isn't!  :angry:


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« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2014, 10:06:01 AM »
you pay taxes for the postal service...

very informative! i hadn't considered that.  :frown:

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« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2014, 10:07:26 AM »
your neurosis all makes sense now..

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2014, 10:08:07 AM »
A question you need to ask yourself is "How much is it worth to me that someone brings me this food instead of me getting off of my ass and getting it myself?"

if you actually believe this, then i'm curious how much you tip your mail man or postal employees annually. because by your logic, i should be tipping my mailman roughly thousands per year when you factor in the service that is being provided to me for MERE PENNIES - that is, a collection of postal employees (mailmen, sorters, drivers, etc.) take my letters and deliver them to somebody else's door across the country, or even across the world, in less than three business days. That's a pretty incredible service, and requires far more collective effort, teamwork and dedication than it does for some idiot high school kids to box up your pizza and drive it three blocks.

i mailed a family member a birthday card a few weeks ago. for me to do it myself, i would have had to buy a plane ticket, travel across the country, get a rental car, drive to the house, drop off the envelope, stay overnight at a hotel, drive back to the airport, get on plane, fly again, pay for airport parking, etc.

so, in truth, the service provided was worth A LOT to me.

and yet, it cost me just 46 cents.

Awful comparison. First, mail carriers make on average over $50K per year. Very doubtful that there are a lot of pizza delivery guys making that kind of dough.

Also, I don't order most of the mail I receive. If anyone should tip it should be the sender.

And how many times does the pizza guy deliver to every house on your street? Never. They're making a special trip just for you. Mail carriers deliver to literally every house on your street 6 days a week.

Oh, and the tax thing.

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« Reply #94 on: January 22, 2014, 10:11:43 AM »
Kick his ass, TownieCat

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2014, 10:18:53 AM »
Awful comparison.

i think i'm on tilt. this is embarrassing.

i'm getting owned right now. 


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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2014, 10:24:06 AM »
Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.

then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?

My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.

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« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2014, 10:28:20 AM »
Delivery guy in some cases is the one slicing and boxing your pizza, and organizing the whole order to make sure you get the right stuff.

then I suppose that's what he gets his minimum wage for... I don't tip when I go pick up the pizza, and they check my order and slice it then. should I be tipping for picking up my pizza?

My example shows why you should tip differently for delivering one pizza vs. eight.

not really. unless youre saying I should tip for picking up a pizza (or 8), what happens before the delivery is irrelevant to my tip.
I think what my friend Mitch is trying to say is that true love is blind.

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Re: Tipping Bartenders
« Reply #98 on: January 22, 2014, 10:33:39 AM »
also if you are paying cash and the driver is the one that answers the phone there is a 95% chance they will make the pizza off the books and pocket all the money

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« Reply #99 on: January 22, 2014, 10:35:34 AM »
does anyone order pizza by phone though?
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