Tipping Bartenders

[slobber]

free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%).  a small part of the immorality of tipping.

What would Jon Taffer think about all this?

I think this is similar to a story my Canadian friend told me. He and his Canadian friends would go the grocery store when they were in college and fill the cart up with food, including some high end steaks. This girl they (Canadian friends) knew would swipe everything across the scanner except she would have her fingers over the bar codes when she did the steaks. My Canadian friend said he still feels guilty about this.

[star seed 7]

free drinks usually means you're an accomplice in stealing from the establishment's owner(s) (not always, and i don't know the %, but i think it's over 50%).  a small part of the immorality of tipping.

What would Jon Taffer think about all this?

get out the bevintel, and see who's STEALING

[420seriouscat69]

I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper

You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more.

[EMAWmeister]

I tip every first drink so I wont have to wait as long for a second. for drinks...

every third beer bottle
every other draft beer
every mixed drink

I think this is very reasonable. It depends on the place though. If it's a place I frequent, I will tip more. If it's a happy hour special where stuff is ridiculously cheap, I'll tip on every drink. I don't think not tipping on every drink makes you a "cheap, miserable eff" at all. If I have change from a drink, I'll tip that every time, regardless of the drink.

I don't frequent coffee shops, so I don't know about tipping etiquette there. I I just order a coffee, how much am I supposed to tip?

I've also never worked in the service industry, so if I'm being an bad person without knowing it, please let me know.

[nicname]

If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.

I usually just tip straigh 20%, maybe a little more or less for rounding when using cash.  However, when I get super drunk I'm not sure how I tip.  I often wake up wondering if I tipped well, or even paid my bill.

[Rage Against the McKee]

holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink?

It's a whole lot more surprising that so many people actually still use cash, imo.

[michigancat]

holy crap, some of you people don't tip for every drink?

It's a whole lot more surprising that so many people actually still use cash, imo.

Well, yeah, but that's not as :sdeek:y

[Winters]

I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper

You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more.

What about both? 

[Stevesie60]

I've been known to tip for just Dr. Pepper

You know they have all the free soda they want, right? Try a hug. A hug from the king is worth way more.

What about both? 

seven pulls this move all the time.

[star seed 7]

 

[KITNfury]

Most bartenders are living off their tips, so don't be a cheapskate you dicks. Also I've made friends with most of the service people at places I frequent so I end up over-tipping a lot of the time. If I'm in a place where I don't know them I tip $1 a drink or sometimes $2 if it has red bull. Anything more than 2 drinks and I try to shoot for 20%. If you are paying cash you will tip more this way, so it's better to just run a tab and figure the 20%.

There are lots of low paying jobs that don't get tips from you I'm willing to bet.

No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.

But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?

[420seriouscat69]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

[KITNfury]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.

[sys]

No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.

But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?

the minimum wage applies to food servers, just like it does everyone else.

the idea that people tip servers based on how much they make and some sense of injustice concerning that wage is laughable.  there are millions of people employed in the us who make less, work harder, and receive no tips.

[Dugout DickStone]

For quick service, I recommend a low-cut shirt and some cleavage. (This sometimes also negates the need to tip with your own money.)

I tip every round, unless really drunk. And then I have no idea whether I tipped, but I generally wind up with zero dollars left when I get home.

If you pay for any drinks with with this approach then you are doing it wrong.

This.  Where is she going?

[OK_Cat]

#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.

[Winters]

#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.

jesus christ

[Dr Rick Daris]

No other occupation makes $2.13/hour. So while he may not tip poorly paid people in general, he does tip the people who are compensated the least by a wide margin.

But see, why is it my responsibility to make up for his boss's shitty pay to a guy that decided to take a job that is easy and requires no education or difficult decisions?

the minimum wage applies to food servers, just like it does everyone else.

the idea that people tip servers based on how much they make and some sense of injustice concerning that wage is laughable.  there are millions of people employed in the us who make less, work harder, and receive no tips.

then those people should quit their jobs and become servers. boom. end of thread. daris wins. sys goes home sad.

[Dr Rick Daris]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.

if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.

[OK_Cat]

#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.

jesus christ

Why should I pay someone extra because they did their job? Very silly idea.

[Winters]

#teamsys I don't tip anywhere/anytime. Pick a new job if you need money.

jesus christ

Why should I pay someone extra because they did their job? Very silly idea.

Tipping really shouldn't be so hard. The service was good, you leave a token of your appreciation, and everyone is happy. Jmo, tho.

[KITNfury]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.

if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.

I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.

[ChiComCat]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.

if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.

I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.

Your ideas aren't wrong they just don't jive with reality.  Take it up with reality.

[KITNfury]

You've obviously never served, kitnfury. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just obvious.

True, but I've worked in kitchens before. I also do tip 20% right now. And I will never question tipping waiters and waitresses. Bar tenders? I'll still always tip. Not sure a draft ore bottle deserves much if any tip tho. Sounds like a lot of people tip them out of sympathy. I don't feel sorry for their shitty wages, they picked their job.

if you order a bunch of the drinks at a bar, don't tip and think you are the one laughing at a loser then you are sorely mistaken. just an fyi.

I never said anything if the sort. But shouldn't people earn their tip for being good instead of doing the bare minimum? I don't think people should tip someone because they decided they didn't want to do a job that requires thought our education. It's like people saying to tip first to get good service. That's ass backwards, the server should give good service to get good tips. Obligatory tips is nonsense.

Your ideas aren't wrong they just don't jive with reality.  Take it up with reality.

However I make my own reality in this case.

[waks]

If you frequent a place you should tip well there. I promise you'll get free drinks/rounds of shots out of it.

This is correct.