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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2014, 11:56:32 PM »
what if will had not the voice of a 12 year old and wasn't incredibly ugly? would he be a better at pretending to play basetkball? like, would we buy the act more?  :confused:

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2014, 12:00:08 AM »
what if will had not the voice of a 12 year old and wasn't incredibly ugly? would he be a better at pretending to play basetkball? like, would we buy the act more?  :confused:

No. We know better than that.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2014, 12:07:13 AM »
He can't lie to us anymore after 3 seasons and his excellent start he is off to this year.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2014, 12:10:47 AM »

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2014, 12:11:52 AM »
idk what if he looked like this and had a sweet accent?


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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2014, 12:12:42 AM »
what if will had not the voice of a 12 year old and wasn't incredibly ugly? would he be a better at pretending to play basetkball? like, would we buy the act more?  :confused:

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2014, 12:18:27 AM »

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2014, 12:21:01 AM »
God Damn he's a rough ridin' moron

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2014, 09:08:27 AM »
what if will had not the voice of a 12 year old and wasn't incredibly ugly? would he be a better at pretending to play basetkball? like, would we buy the act more?  :confused:

Meh, I feel like his voice/ugliness is one of the reasons I give Sprad's a pass every now and then. Although he's the abosolute WORST, he's just so ugly to look at and listen to. Combine that with his skill set? Poor guy.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2014, 12:39:25 PM »
Didn't realize he only had 24 minutes against OU.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2014, 02:18:17 PM »
Didn't realize he only had 24 minutes against OU.

don't read too much into it.  His bench minutes were largely due to foul trouble. 

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #61 on: January 16, 2014, 02:33:39 PM »
Didn't realize he only had 24 minutes against OU.

don't read too much into it.  His bench minutes were largely due to foul trouble. 

Actually, there is a trend with Will this year. Most people will think his minutes went down when Jevon became eligible, but that's not the case.

The change came 5 games into the season after K-State was 2-3. In those games Will played 83.5% of the minutes available for him to play.

Since then the change has been dramatic; he's played in 65.6% of the minutes available. Only 2 games were over 26 minutes, 36 vs Gonzaga and 37 vs Oklahoma State.

It appears to me oscar and his staff are going to play Nigel and now Jevon as much as they can trust them. Granted, some of that has been foul trouble for Will, but while the staff has a trust level with Will, they know for this team to be successful the younger and more athletic players need to be on the floor.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2014, 02:44:56 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2014, 02:48:04 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2014, 02:51:04 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

Yeah, he played fine. He usually plays fine. His whole career is playing fine.

I enjoy the funny nature of gE where we can trash Will all we want, but criticize Scott Drew's coaching ability and you have crossed the line.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2014, 03:16:08 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

Yeah, he played fine. He usually plays fine. His whole career is playing fine.

I enjoy the funny nature of gE where we can trash Will all we want, but criticize Scott Drew's coaching ability and you have crossed the line.

Both the Will haters and Drew haters are a bit over the top.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2014, 03:17:47 PM »
Both the Will haters and Drew haters are a bit over the top.

Agreed.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2014, 03:18:05 PM »
where are the rick barnes haters?

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2014, 03:22:13 PM »
I always feel bad when I hate on someone who has chosen to come play at KSU and represent my school, but sometimes I still hate a little.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2014, 03:25:26 PM »
I always feel bad when I hate on someone who has chosen to come play at KSU and represent my school, but sometimes I still hate a little.

This is reasonable IMHO. :cheers:

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2014, 03:26:11 PM »
I always feel bad when I hate on someone who has chosen to come play at KSU and represent my school, but sometimes I still hate a little.

This is reasonable IMHO. :cheers:

I have always felt bad for the amount of hate I had for Frank Richards and have never hated another player at that level since.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2014, 03:30:37 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

Yeah, he played fine. He usually plays fine. His whole career is playing fine.

I enjoy the funny nature of gE where we can trash Will all we want, but criticize Scott Drew's coaching ability and you have crossed the line.

Both the Will haters and Drew haters are a bit over the top.

The thing is that Will deserves as much scrutiny as any other player in this program.  And, in the world of an internet sports forum, the scrutiny will often be harsher than otherwise. 

But, personally, I think Will is entitled to most of the criticism he gets.  He's a "game manager" who gets playmaker minutes.  _Fan does note his decreased minutes with Jevon and Nigel, but he's still averaging the 3rd most minutes at 28.4.  He also averaged the 3rd (27.8) and 2nd (31.2) most minutes in the past two seasons, respectively.  With those types of minutes, fans expect more than just a good TO/A ratio.  I can't explain why he's a career 36% FG.  This year, he's been absolutely dreadful at putting the ball through the hoop. 

Guys like Will have a few jobs.  Don't turn it over.  Shoot the ball well.  Pretty simple formula.  He's good at the former, bad at the latter.  It is what it is. 

But, I disagree that Will haters are "over the top."  I think the haters are spot on.     

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2014, 03:33:56 PM »
where are the rick barnes haters?

Hopefully all dead.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2014, 03:53:20 PM »
Will had 10 points, 5 assists, and 1 turnover against OU. I think that justifies 24 minutes. (At least).

Yeah, he played fine. He usually plays fine. His whole career is playing fine.

I enjoy the funny nature of gE where we can trash Will all we want, but criticize Scott Drew's coaching ability and you have crossed the line.

Both the Will haters and Drew haters are a bit over the top.

The thing is that Will deserves as much scrutiny as any other player in this program.  And, in the world of an internet sports forum, the scrutiny will often be harsher than otherwise. 

But, personally, I think Will is entitled to most of the criticism he gets.  He's a "game manager" who gets playmaker minutes.  _Fan does note his decreased minutes with Jevon and Nigel, but he's still averaging the 3rd most minutes at 28.4.  He also averaged the 3rd (27.8) and 2nd (31.2) most minutes in the past two seasons, respectively.  With those types of minutes, fans expect more than just a good TO/A ratio.  I can't explain why he's a career 36% FG.  This year, he's been absolutely dreadful at putting the ball through the hoop. 

Guys like Will have a few jobs.  Don't turn it over.  Shoot the ball well.  Pretty simple formula.  He's good at the former, bad at the latter.  It is what it is. 

But, I disagree that Will haters are "over the top."  I think the haters are spot on.     

Spradling's a better player than Nigel, at everything. Nigel creates assists at a slightly higher rate, but he's so much worse at turning over the ball it isn't worth it. And like it or not, Will has the second highest three point percentage on the team. Would I like it if he shot better (and more)? Yes, but I don't think his percentage in any way justifies his losing minutes to an undersized Nigel Johnson.

Since Jevon's been available, Spradling's averaged 26.5 minutes/game while Jevon's averaged 23.5. I'd like those numbers to be flipped, but IMO it's completely reasonable given the circumstances.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2014, 03:54:51 PM »
Will doesn't have the highest 3pt% anymore, michigancat.