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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2014, 11:55:52 AM »
that lay up yesterday tho

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2014, 12:09:06 PM »
My data base tells me the only thing Will should do more is sit on the rough ridin' bench.


His minutes have started to shrink lately.  I think we are looking at 22-25 for him going forward. 
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2014, 12:23:57 PM »
If an NIT is looking like a lock, Nigel should really be phased in or given more of an opportunity. :th_twocents:

We have a very good chance of making the NCAA and I don't think Nigel is very good.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2014, 12:45:35 PM »
Will should shoot more and drive more.



If he doesn't have the confidence to do either, he should sit.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2014, 02:25:49 PM »
Great thread, guys. First I've seen on the subject of Will not being very good. Really makes me reconsider his skillset and place on the team. Go cats.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2014, 03:09:31 PM »
Great thread, guys. First I've seen on the subject of Will not being very good. Really makes me reconsider his skillset and place on the team. Go cats.

i have some information about his voice that you're really going to go crazy over.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2014, 03:18:52 PM »
that lay up yesterday tho
This! Didn't he drive to the hole twice? Raised my eyebrow for sure. Maybe he should do that more? To take a page our of the Cartier Martin leadership manual, he should at least offer to yield his starting spot to Jevon. It's the right thing to do.

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2014, 03:39:36 PM »

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2014, 04:04:46 PM »

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.

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Plus Will's experience/size allows him to guard physical guards in the Big 12, but yes his defensive performance yesterday was not very good.

I think Johnson will eventually be able to be a capable defender at this level, and if he accepts a Tay-like role as a back-up combo guard he'll be an effective player for K-State.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2014, 04:46:00 PM »

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.

TO%

Plus Will's experience/size allows him to guard physical guards in the Big 12, but yes his defensive performance yesterday was not very good.

I think Johnson will eventually be able to be a capable defender at this level, and if he accepts a Tay-like role as a back-up combo guard he'll be an effective player for K-State.

nigel's ability to finish at the rim has impressed me though it's kind of a redundancy with jevon. seems unlikely he'll ever be the 40% 3 pt shooter that Tay became but yeah similar career paths is a good projection.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2014, 04:48:45 PM »

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.

TO%

Plus Will's experience/size allows him to guard physical guards in the Big 12, but yes his defensive performance yesterday was not very good.

I think Johnson will eventually be able to be a capable defender at this level, and if he accepts a Tay-like role as a back-up combo guard he'll be an effective player for K-State.

nigel's ability to finish at the rim has impressed me though it's kind of a redundancy with jevon. seems unlikely he'll ever be the 40% 3 pt shooter that Tay became but yeah similar career paths is a good projection.

Tay shot 24% from 3 as a freshman FWIW.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2014, 04:50:41 PM »
johnson is the most advanced defender among the freshmen.  he's just so small, tho.

btw, i agree that he's not that good.  certainly not good enough to take minutes from spradling or probably even thomas (though i don't really have a strong opinion on how good thomas is).
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2014, 04:52:45 PM »
johnson is the most advanced defender among the freshmen.  he's just so small, tho.

btw, i agree that he's not that good.  certainly not good enough to take minutes from spradling or probably even thomas (though i don't really have a strong opinion on how good thomas is).

What specifically do you mean by advanced defender? He's not nearly the defender that Thomas is, but he doesn't have the speed/quickness either.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2014, 06:57:12 PM »

Regarding the comment about Nigel vs. Will - I think they're about even in observable skill level at this point. Probably means Nigel has more upside since he's a freshman and all. Argument for him to get more of Will's playing time as the season goes on, IMHO.

TO%

Plus Will's experience/size allows him to guard physical guards in the Big 12, but yes his defensive performance yesterday was not very good.

I think Johnson will eventually be able to be a capable defender at this level, and if he accepts a Tay-like role as a back-up combo guard he'll be an effective player for K-State.

nigel's ability to finish at the rim has impressed me though it's kind of a redundancy with jevon. seems unlikely he'll ever be the 40% 3 pt shooter that Tay became but yeah similar career paths is a good projection.


Tay shot 24% from 3 as a freshman FWIW.

no kidding, my fault. i always thought of tay as a 35-40% guy throughout his career. i like nigel and his stroke. think his poor shooting start was a product of bad luck and being asked too much more than anything. mostly just his size and jevon that will limit him in his time here.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2014, 07:10:31 PM »
What specifically do you mean by advanced defender? He's not nearly the defender that Thomas is, but he doesn't have the speed/quickness either.

i mean he knows what he's doing (on ball, haven't paid enough attention to him off ball to form an opinion).  i don't think i agree that he's not nearly the defender thomas is, but i haven't really watched thomas enough to comment intelligently on him.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2014, 09:13:53 PM »
What specifically do you mean by advanced defender? He's not nearly the defender that Thomas is, but he doesn't have the speed/quickness either.

i mean he knows what he's doing (on ball, haven't paid enough attention to him off ball to form an opinion).  i don't think i agree that he's not nearly the defender thomas is, but i haven't really watched thomas enough to comment intelligently on him.


He's pretty shitty off the ball. IMO prolly why oscar won't play him more often. Some people really struggle (at first) playing this type of team defense....he'll get better but it won't translate into reduced minutes for will (which pisses me off)

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2014, 09:25:49 PM »

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 09:34:16 PM »
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2014, 10:01:37 PM »

Let's cut to the chase:  How would Will answer the question of why he starts?   :dunno:

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2014, 10:20:26 PM »

Let's cut to the chase:  How would Will answer the question of why he starts?   :dunno:

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2014, 10:58:12 PM »
Soren really laid into Sprads this afternoon.   17:30 of the podcast.

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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2014, 11:00:02 PM »
http://www.810whb.com/page.php?page_id=140

If you start listening to Soren's bit at 14:30 (Hour 1: K-State vs. OU) he really takes it to Will Spradling as a player, and then takes a shot at JC for running off Frank Martin to make sure Will didn't transfer. Really enjoyable radio.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2014, 11:01:45 PM »
It's really strange that I luked this radio segment by two minutes in a 3 day old thread. To be fair though, his rant on Spradling starts at 14:30, not 17:30.
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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2014, 11:03:29 PM »
i liked him alright last year but it seems like he sucks way worse this year.  i'm done with him. 

who the hell even recruited this loser?



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Re: Why does Will Spradling even start?
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2014, 11:30:30 PM »
The amount of people who went absolutely crazy when he hit his 3 ball yesterday :bball: were really let down when he decided to hand the ball to OU and really keep our offense running. Our MOTION offense was stuck in the cement and I'm getting really tired of watching that. Will is done after this year and we really need to start looking at JT as our PG of the future. Has anyone noticed that Will has gotten engaged and stopped hooking up with random girls. Maybe if he got back to doing that he would be able to play better. Just meet them in the Ville and then  :buh-bye: