Sporting KC Thread!! (Featuring All of MLS and sometimes Mexican Leagues too)

[sunny_cat]

i hate chicago more than chivas fwiw

not even gE'ing here.  they are an awful franchise

The ownership in Chicago is pretty terrible, but they're not close to as bad as Chivas. DC United is seriously hurting too.

[Tobias]

what do we have to do to evict them

[Tobias]

I'm in the minority that thinks there are too many teams (about a wash after expansion)

[sunny_cat]

what do we have to do to evict them

We're going to have to live with their mediocrity for a long time until it becomes an issue as bad as Chivas which will never happen.

[sunny_cat]

I'm in the minority that thinks there are too many teams (about a wash after expansion)

There are too many teams. It's a shame markets like DC and Boston have teams already when there are cities without teams that will probably never get a team because it will never become bad enough to move the clubs out of DC or Boston.

I really do think that eventually we're going to hit 30 teams. I think it's stupid, but we'll probably have to live with it. That's quite a ways into the future though.

[scottwildcat]

24 well deserving cities with local ownership with business sense would be the perfect situation for MLS.

[Tobias]

24 well deserving cities with local ownership with business sense would be the perfect situation for MLS.

agreed.  we're spoiled in kc (a non-local tv market for me).  there's lots of markets that are doing a job at it, but some of them make me mad too

[scottwildcat]

Honestly in my perfect world they would start over with 14 teams and go from there starting with:

KC
Portland
Seattle
Salt Lake
LA Galaxy
NYCFC without RBNY
Toronto
Vancouver
Houston
San Jose
Colorado 
Montreal
Columbus
Philadelphia

new ownership could come in to the other current cities but I think these 14 are the ones I would use to restart the league.

[sunny_cat]

Honestly in my perfect world they would start over with 14 teams and go from there starting with:

KC
Portland
Seattle
Salt Lake
LA Galaxy
NYCFC without RBNY
Toronto
Vancouver
Houston
San Jose
Colorado 
Montreal
Columbus
Philadelphia

new ownership could come in to the other current cities but I think these 14 are the ones I would use to restart the league.

No Orlando?

[scottwildcat]

Honestly in my perfect world they would start over with 14 teams and go from there starting with:

KC
Portland
Seattle
Salt Lake
LA Galaxy
NYCFC without RBNY
Toronto
Vancouver
Houston
San Jose
Colorado 
Montreal
Columbus
Philadelphia

new ownership could come in to the other current cities but I think these 14 are the ones I would use to restart the league.

No Orlando?

no, unlike you I am not really team Orlando. I don't think Florida should have an MLS club, and especially not in my restarted 14 city/club league.

[mocat]

Do you think STL would support a team if they had one? Keep in mind STL is a garbage city

[Tobias]

no orlando here either

[sunny_cat]

OCSC is already proven. I can see being anti-Miami, but I think you should give Orlando a chance. OCSC will have better attendance numbers than Colorado, Columbus, and Philly from the very beginning.

[Tobias]

Do you think STL would support a team if they had one? Keep in mind STL is a garbage city

not really, but they'd be better than some of the garbage fanbases we already have

[sunny_cat]

Do you think STL would support a team if they had one? Keep in mind STL is a garbage city

Yes

[Tobias]

OCSC is already proven. I can see being anti-Miami, but I think you should give Orlando a chance. OCSC will have better attendance numbers than Colorado, Columbus, and Philly from the very beginning.

philly is my favorite of anything mentioned here (including ocsc).  i'm guessing the attendance figures don't help my inclinations?

[scottwildcat]

OCSC is already proven. I can see being anti-Miami, but I think you should give Orlando a chance. OCSC will have better attendance numbers than Colorado, Columbus, and Philly from the very beginning.

the opening year isn't the gauge, sunny. I think after 5-7 years after the new smell has worn off it will become a very mediocre club with minimal support.

Do you think STL would support a team if they had one? Keep in mind STL is a garbage city

yes they would.

[sunny_cat]

If OCSC wins, the attendance numbers will stay. You think SKC would be selling out 38 straight games if we weren't winners?

[MakeItRain]

lets be real here for a second, can we? The tv situation for SKC is an embarrassment and a black mark for the franchise. The Revs have had every single game in the history of their franchise televised, and they don't have some garbage cable access deal either, their cable deal is just as good as the Celtics and Bruins.

[Tobias]

i think skc's bottom is 10x higher than ocsc's bottom

[sunny_cat]

lets be real here for a second, can we? The tv situation for SKC is an embarrassment and a black mark for the franchise. The Revs have had every single game in the history of their franchise televised, and they don't have some garbage cable access deal either, their cable deal is just as good as the Celtics and Bruins.

Agreed. It's a complete garbage TV deal.

[sunny_cat]

i think skc's bottom is 10x higher than ocsc's bottom

How could you know that?

[Tobias]

lets be real here for a second, can we? The tv situation for SKC is an embarrassment and a black mark for the franchise. The Revs have had every single game in the history of their franchise televised, and they don't have some garbage cable access deal either, their cable deal is just as good as the Celtics and Bruins.

the tv situation is absolutely terrible for me.  i'm as likely to catch a chivas match as i am skc.  i live 2.5 hours west of their stadium in the same state

[Tobias]

i think skc's bottom is 10x higher than ocsc's bottom

How could you know that?

i can't imagine orlando caring if they had a good franchise

[sunny_cat]

i think skc's bottom is 10x higher than ocsc's bottom

How could you know that?

i can't imagine orlando caring if they had a good franchise

Well that have had a lot of people who care about a rough ridin' USL Pro club.