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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2013, 04:07:26 PM »
What would it take for someone from gE to get press credentials? I have a lot of questions I'd like to ask Bill.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2013, 04:08:23 PM »
For starters, "you've said after multiple games this season that you wish you would have played Daniel more, so why the eff haven't you?"

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2013, 04:08:51 PM »
What would it take for someone from gE to get press credentials? I have a lot of questions I'd like to ask Bill.

i don't think you're allowed to ask snyder questions just because you have press credentials.
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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2013, 04:10:18 PM »
Bill is responsible for like 10% of the offense.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2013, 04:14:12 PM »
Mir you yell at anyone who has an opposite opinion of you. Let's not be dramatic. I wanted to see more SAMs, but we treat waters like he's spradling on here, when he's not.

You aren't giving opinions on anything, unless calling people dumbass is the depth of your thought process. If this is as deep as you can be I apologize for expecting more.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2013, 04:21:58 PM »
Good grief you lousy sad asses. Jake was great in the first half.

lol, wut?

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2013, 04:23:10 PM »
Mir you yell at anyone who has an opposite opinion of you. Let's not be dramatic. I wanted to see more SAMs, but we treat waters like he's spradling on here, when he's not.

You aren't giving opinions on anything, unless calling people dumbass is the depth of your thought process. If this is as deep as you can be I apologize for expecting more.
dumbass.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2013, 04:24:50 PM »
If the actions of this coaching staff this season do not disturb you then your tolerance of mismanagement is far far greater than mine.  I am beyond myself trying to figure out some reason for these repetitive WTF moments.  A year ago it was Scheme Doctor, what happened.   :sdeek:

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2013, 04:26:13 PM »
The braintrust of fanning, buckets, and chingon have declared that you can't talk about things on this site unless they approve. :flush:

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2013, 04:26:31 PM »
Mir you yell at anyone who has an opposite opinion of you. Let's not be dramatic. I wanted to see more SAMs, but we treat waters like he's spradling on here, when he's not.

You aren't giving opinions on anything, unless calling people dumbass is the depth of your thought process. If this is as deep as you can be I apologize for expecting more.
dumbass.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2013, 04:38:05 PM »
Wacky he wasn't that good even in the 1st half. He took a bad sack on the opening drive, and the 2 TDs were not exactly tough throws.




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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2013, 04:49:28 PM »
Wacky he wasn't that good even in the 1st half. He took a bad sack on the opening drive, and the 2 TDs were not exactly tough throws.

This^^

Name one thing Waters did well today without being racist.. S4ms would've been way rough ridin' more successful with the exact same play calling/opportunities they gave Jake

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2013, 04:58:08 PM »
#TEAMWACKY


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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2013, 05:05:50 PM »
#teamtuck would be a lot easier to reconcile if bill didn't start and end every post game with "I need to play sams more".  So either Bill is trolling gE, or you all are disagreeing with they guy you say should never be disagreed with.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2013, 05:06:56 PM »
#teamtuck would be a lot easier to reconcile if bill didn't start and end every post game with "I need to play sams more".  So either Bill is trolling gE, or you all are disagreeing with they guy you say should never be disagreed with.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2013, 05:09:37 PM »
#teamtuck would be a lot easier to reconcile if bill didn't start and end every post game with "I need to play sams more".  So either Bill is trolling gE, or you all are disagreeing with they guy you say should never be disagreed with.
The Word. You seriously have to wonder what is going on in Bill's head with all the doublespeak we've seen this season.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2013, 05:19:36 PM »
Bill is responsible for like 10% of the offense.

I think this has to be part of it, I really believe he's turned most of the offense over to Dimel. I think Miller has a part, but from what I can tell its mainly Dimel's offense. That is the only explanation for Bill saying multiple times that Sams should have played more without throwing his assistant coaches completely under the bus.

I think playing Waters/running Hubert was the right thing because of how KU defended us. KU was not going to let Lockett/Waters beat them over the top like OU did and as a result they often only had 6 defenders in the box. I don't think we get that same look with Sams in the game.

The problem became that we'd run strange pass plays on 1st or 2nd down putting us into bad situations on 3rd down. KU rarely stopped Hubert and our zone or zone read running game for 2 plays in a row, but we didn't seem to trust it and would go away from it to kill drives. Or we'd go to under center with 2 backs, which allowed KU to put 7 or 8 back into the box because they weren't spread out. This just seemed to be a game where the play calling got out of rhythm with our mix of formations/play calls which is usually the strength of K-State's offense. I won't go too crazy about it because I really think once we got up 3 scores we (coaches and players) relaxed a bit and that let KU hang around.

That said, I give some credit to Hayes and the defense because we did a good job taking away the running game and made KU try to beat us throwing. Heaps made a few good throws, but he's just an INT waiting to happen so that plan worked very well.

It was a mediocre performance after we got the 21-0 lead, but I don't think its indicative of an epidemic. The problems today were much different than what happened against OU. This year's offense turned out to be a pretty good one, it just became sporadic. If anything this staff became too enthralled with the Waters/Lockett big play potential, so I was glad to see us go back to a heavy dose of Hubert today. We just got off rhythm on some drives which made the performance feel worse than it was.

I don't think its worth panicking and I don't think Sams is going anywhere.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2013, 05:20:31 PM »
Bill is responsible for like 10% of the offense.
This answers most of the questions on this thread. I just can't believe Sams would be on the sideline this much if Bill was in full control of the offense.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2013, 05:21:03 PM »
Fan beat me to it

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2013, 05:24:56 PM »
If Bill wanted Sams to pay more, Sams would play more. Goodness Gracious some of you people are gullible

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2013, 05:29:42 PM »
If Bill wanted Sams to pay more, Sams would play more. Goodness Gracious some of you people are gullible

Yes, we've spent the last 20+ years pushing this control freak narrative and now the excuse is that he has no control? Even if this were the case how is this in any way okay? Isn't this what the fear was when he came back?

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2013, 05:32:21 PM »
If Bill wanted Sams to pay more, Sams would play more. Goodness Gracious some of you people are gullible

Yes, we've spent the last 20+ years pushing this control freak narrative and now the excuse is that he has no control? Even if this were the case how is this in any way okay? Isn't this what the fear was when he came back?

I think its really strange, I don't know why he'd say what he's saying if he hadn't given up some of the control on offense, but that's just an opinion. Either way the whole QB situation has been really strange this year.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2013, 05:39:20 PM »
It's a valid theory if you take into consideration that Bill is trying to leave his current coaching staff in place after he finally calls it quits.

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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2013, 05:44:52 PM »
we could get rid of dimel and see if sams plays more.  confront the hypothesis with data.
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Re: I can't believe he said it again
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2013, 05:58:53 PM »
Bill is responsible for 100% of the offense, and everything else, unless we're saying there's a secret agreement in place where we pretend Bill is the head coach, but in reality he's just the face and consultant of the program and we're actually employing Dimel as offense head coach and so on.

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