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Waters was god awful in the second half. Our TOP is terrible when he is playing QB. TOP is key, we need to win TOP in order to be successful. Dumbasses like bucket can't see that.
Quote from: kim carnes on November 23, 2013, 02:58:10 PMWaters was god awful in the second half. Our TOP is terrible when he is playing QB. TOP is key, we need to win TOP in order to be successful. Dumbasses like bucket can't see that.I don't think TOP or Waters had anything to with today's loss
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 02:54:22 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:52:48 PMI thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.They don't drop those passes if they aren't over their heads and behind their back. Basically, they don't drop those passes if they are thrown by Daniel Sams.One hit TT in the numbers. Sexton's was an easy grab too. He did have a few high throws, but no one else was around so they should have been caught.
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:52:48 PMI thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.They don't drop those passes if they aren't over their heads and behind their back. Basically, they don't drop those passes if they are thrown by Daniel Sams.
I thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:56:59 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 02:54:22 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:52:48 PMI thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.They don't drop those passes if they aren't over their heads and behind their back. Basically, they don't drop those passes if they are thrown by Daniel Sams.One hit TT in the numbers. Sexton's was an easy grab too. He did have a few high throws, but no one else was around so they should have been caught.So one out of his 12 incompletions was a good pass. That sounds about right.Jake didn't singlehandedly lose the game. The defense was awful. Jake going out and basically scoring 14 points for Oklahoma while only scoring 10 points for Kansas State in the second half didn't help matters, though.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 03:01:50 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:56:59 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 02:54:22 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:52:48 PMI thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.They don't drop those passes if they aren't over their heads and behind their back. Basically, they don't drop those passes if they are thrown by Daniel Sams.One hit TT in the numbers. Sexton's was an easy grab too. He did have a few high throws, but no one else was around so they should have been caught.So one out of his 12 incompletions was a good pass. That sounds about right.Jake didn't singlehandedly lose the game. The defense was awful. Jake going out and basically scoring 14 points for Oklahoma while only scoring 10 points for Kansas State in the second half didn't help matters, though.You're right. OU's defense adjusted as I expected them to. Jake was decent up until when the offense was pinned on their own three yard line and had "the worst punt of the century." I flipped it to the Brady Bunch after that. Maybe he looked like dog crap after that
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 03:04:14 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 03:01:50 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:56:59 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on November 23, 2013, 02:54:22 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 02:52:48 PMI thought his intermediate passing was good. I thought what killed him today was a drop by Sexton and multiple drops by TT. Which led to punts. I understand that if you have a good passing QB and no receivers you shouldn't go with a passing QB. Thing is, I believe we do have good receivers, and that TT and Sexton make those catches 99% of the time.They don't drop those passes if they aren't over their heads and behind their back. Basically, they don't drop those passes if they are thrown by Daniel Sams.One hit TT in the numbers. Sexton's was an easy grab too. He did have a few high throws, but no one else was around so they should have been caught.So one out of his 12 incompletions was a good pass. That sounds about right.Jake didn't singlehandedly lose the game. The defense was awful. Jake going out and basically scoring 14 points for Oklahoma while only scoring 10 points for Kansas State in the second half didn't help matters, though.You're right. OU's defense adjusted as I expected them to. Jake was decent up until when the offense was pinned on their own three yard line and had "the worst punt of the century." I flipped it to the Brady Bunch after that. Maybe he looked like dog crap after that If Jake can even move the offense 4 or 5 yards on that drive, the punter has more room and that awful punt probably doesn't happen. He got zero yards, though. Then he got the ball back and promptly threw a pick 6.
Every Waters pass ever should have been caught.
I'm just saying maybe put the blame on the receivers and not Waters. You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 03:25:07 PMI'm just saying maybe put the blame on the receivers and not Waters. You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.the pick 6 wasn't his fault either right?
You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 03:25:07 PM You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.Seriously, Jake Waters has single handedly lowered the cumulative football IQ of GE posters by tens of thousands of points
Quote from: Hurricane Cat on November 23, 2013, 03:28:49 PMQuote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 03:25:07 PM You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.Seriously, Jake Waters has single handedly lowered the cumulative football IQ of GE posters by tens of thousands of pointswell it was already in the trillions so tens of thousands is statistically insignificant
Quote from: bucket on November 23, 2013, 03:25:07 PMI'm just saying maybe put the blame on the receivers and not Waters. You guys really are worse than tucks with your Waters' hate.If we had somebody on the bench better than Thompson who wouldn't drop as many passes, I would be pissed about the receiver play. That's not the case, though. We are playing our best players at WR. We are not playing our best player at QB, and it's maddening.
We have a fairly sizable sample size now. Has Waters ever moved the team off our own goal line? Fail miserably at that today, leading directly to two OU scores.
Quote from: EMAWzified on November 23, 2013, 03:37:38 PMWe have a fairly sizable sample size now. Has Waters ever moved the team off our own goal line? Fail miserably at that today, leading directly to two OU scores.according to some posters, that isn't his fault and had nothing to do with why we lost
TOP doesn't mean jack crap when your defense can't force a punt to save their life. How many 3 and outs did they force today? 0
Quote from: eastcat on November 23, 2013, 03:38:38 PMTOP doesn't mean jack crap when your defense can't force a punt to save their life. How many 3 and outs did they force today? 0TOP is most important in games like today's, actually. OU was running the ball down our throat for several minutes at a time. You just can't afford to go all H3O and put that defense right back out there.
