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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2013, 08:42:44 PM »
I love bombs.  We should be throwing them much more often.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2013, 08:42:47 PM »
I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.

IMO Bill has gotten much better at this.  Bish/Beas/Roberson NEVER got to dink and dunk.

Very true. But I still think he places too much emphasis on the deep passing game.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2013, 08:42:52 PM »
I am 80% certain that Waters has a shoulder injury.

Side arm throws.

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Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2013, 08:42:53 PM »
I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.

That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.

Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2013, 08:45:28 PM »
I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.

That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.

Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.

his mechanics aren't good.  doesn't set himself squarely.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2013, 08:46:20 PM »
I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.

That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.

Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.

Accuracy doesn't seem to be the issue.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2013, 08:46:41 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.
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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2013, 08:47:46 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2013, 08:48:31 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2013, 08:50:02 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.

Ya, loved how Lockett made Verrett look like an idiot and how they kept showing it over and over again.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2013, 08:50:16 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.

Very physical, I'm not sure sams has received half the punishment he received tonight in the previous 9 games.
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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2013, 08:51:03 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

ah ok.  well still liked the effort from the hogmollies up front and stuff.
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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2013, 08:54:07 PM »
isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line?  felt like the o-line was awesome today.

Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.

ah ok.  well still liked the effort from the hogmollies up front and stuff.

Or offense was solid and we still scored 33 points against a good defense, but we still had to settle for 4 FGs.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2013, 10:02:24 PM »
How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2013, 10:52:03 PM »
Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.
i agree, his labia has been injured

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2013, 10:57:30 PM »
How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
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was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2013, 11:10:16 PM »
Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.
i agree, his labia has been injured

It is obvious he is shielding a hurt arm.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2013, 11:26:47 PM »
How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
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was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?

They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2013, 11:42:41 PM »
How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
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was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?

They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.

Snyder caught it.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2013, 11:44:34 PM »
No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.

I would have, you don't get guys that open often.

Waters had too many bad throws to recall all of them, none were sure TDs though. The bounce pass to Sexton to start the late drive was really bad for example.

Waters' missed throws were far worse because they continually led to 3 and outs. At least we still ended up with points after Sams' missed touchdown pass, iirc.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2013, 12:30:23 AM »
How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
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was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?

They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.

Snyder caught it.

I was told that the TV guys credited Snyder for alerting the officials but it was the back judge in front of TCU's sideline, literally the official farthest away from Snyder on the field, on the TCU 5 yardline on their sideline, who threw the flag

Also if that call was not made TCU was going to get the worst spot in the history of college football.  The official deemed that the ball went out at the two but that was physically impossible considering where the ball hit in the end zone.

Not sure what would have been the worst missed call; that potential spot, the two targeting penalties we got away with, or the horrendous PI call we had but the officials missed that negated a TCU touchdown in the 1st quarter.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2013, 12:32:31 AM »
Also forgot to mention,  Notre Dame had two #2 on the field last week against Pitt on a field goal and those officials missed it but Brent, Kirk, and the ABC crew caught it.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2013, 12:34:18 AM »
The tv cameras showed Bill walking up to an official and holding up 2 fingers. It really looked like he was pointing it out to him.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2013, 12:38:20 AM »
The tv cameras showed Bill walking up to an official and holding up 2 fingers. It really looked like he was pointing it out to him.

Good for Bill to notice but the flag was on the ground before the play was over.

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Re: Winning ugly
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2013, 02:26:13 AM »
Also forgot to mention,  Notre Dame had two #2 on the field last week against Pitt on a field goal and those officials missed it but Brent, Kirk, and the ABC crew caught it.

Pretty sure this happened on a nd field goal last year too, went uncalled.
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