Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable

[OregonSmock]

So who is KU booting this offseason to make room for all these recruits?

Obviously C. Henry.  Can someone here help me out with the math?
Little might be in troubs too.  

Collins  -  Woolridge

Aldrich  -  Selby

Henry  -  Lamb



*CJ Henry is a walk-on.

[waks]

Also, you are wrong about Doron Lamb as well.


G Doron Lamb (No. 21)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and West Virginia

The latest word concerning Lamb's recruitment is that he is truly undecided at this point. He has officially visited all of his schools except for West Virginia. Arizona has a strong connection with the shooting guard since he played travel team ball with the New York Gauchos under Emmanuel Richardson, who is now an Arizona assistant. Also, Lamb will announce his decision at the Jordan Brand Game along with Selby. Could they both be headed to Kansas?

Again, I haven't read much on the two other than what has been said on the Phog but few posters on the Phog seem as confident as you that KU will land these two.

[OregonSmock]

Also, you are wrong about Doron Lamb as well.


G Doron Lamb (No. 21)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and West Virginia

The latest word concerning Lamb's recruitment is that he is truly undecided at this point. He has officially visited all of his schools except for West Virginia. Arizona has a strong connection with the shooting guard since he played travel team ball with the New York Gauchos under Emmanuel Richardson, who is now an Arizona assistant. Also, Lamb will announce his decision at the Jordan Brand Game along with Selby. Could they both be headed to Kansas?

Again, I haven't read much on the two other than what has been said on the Phog but few posters on the Phog seem as confident as you that KU will land these two.

You must be looking in all the wrong places then.  Selby has been penciled into next year's starting lineup by about half the phog already.

[CHONGS]

So who is KU booting this offseason to make room for all these recruits?

Obviously C. Henry.  Can someone here help me out with the math?
Little might be in troubs too.  

Collins  -  Woolridge

Aldrich  -  Selby

Henry  -  Lamb



*CJ Henry is a walk-on.

That's true, but I also though CJ's potential scholly was the "ransom" to keep Xavier around for longer.  Well then CJ will be a walk-off next year then.

[waks]

Also, you are wrong about Doron Lamb as well.


G Doron Lamb (No. 21)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and West Virginia

The latest word concerning Lamb's recruitment is that he is truly undecided at this point. He has officially visited all of his schools except for West Virginia. Arizona has a strong connection with the shooting guard since he played travel team ball with the New York Gauchos under Emmanuel Richardson, who is now an Arizona assistant. Also, Lamb will announce his decision at the Jordan Brand Game along with Selby. Could they both be headed to Kansas?

Again, I haven't read much on the two other than what has been said on the Phog but few posters on the Phog seem as confident as you that KU will land these two.

You must be looking in all the wrong places then.  Selby has been penciled into next year's starting lineup by about half the phog already.

Maybe so. Still, assuming KU loses Aldrich and Henry and Pullen remains on the team, KU is looking at third in the Big XII next year behind K-State and Baylor. If Self misses on Selby and Lamb then I would say Missouri gets the nod over you guys as well.

[OregonSmock]

So who is KU booting this offseason to make room for all these recruits?

Obviously C. Henry.  Can someone here help me out with the math?
Little might be in troubs too.  

Collins  -  Woolridge

Aldrich  -  Selby

Henry  -  Lamb



*CJ Henry is a walk-on.

That's true, but I also though CJ's potential scholly was the "ransom" to keep Xavier around for longer.  Well then CJ will be a walk-off next year then.

CJ's tuition is paid for by the New York Yankees.

[OregonSmock]

Also, you are wrong about Doron Lamb as well.


G Doron Lamb (No. 21)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and West Virginia

The latest word concerning Lamb's recruitment is that he is truly undecided at this point. He has officially visited all of his schools except for West Virginia. Arizona has a strong connection with the shooting guard since he played travel team ball with the New York Gauchos under Emmanuel Richardson, who is now an Arizona assistant. Also, Lamb will announce his decision at the Jordan Brand Game along with Selby. Could they both be headed to Kansas?

Again, I haven't read much on the two other than what has been said on the Phog but few posters on the Phog seem as confident as you that KU will land these two.

You must be looking in all the wrong places then.  Selby has been penciled into next year's starting lineup by about half the phog already.

Maybe so. Still, assuming KU loses Aldrich and Henry and Pullen remains on the team, KU is looking at third in the Big XII next year behind K-State and Baylor. If Self misses on Selby and Lamb then I would say Missouri gets the nod over you guys as well.

Seriously?  How do you say that after KU has won back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back Big 12 regular season titles? 

[catzacker]

If Pullen and Clemente are both gone, you guys are going to suck ass next year.

yeah, same with you and Collins/Aldrich/Xavier (< pronounced it like the team we beat)

Selby
Taylor
Little/Reed
Morris
Morris


(would be top 10)

Ben, you don't really mean that.  Seriously, you're going to replace Collins with Selby and Cole with the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) Morris and you expect them to be just a step worse than this year's team?  

Selby has a chance to be every bit as good as Collins.  He'll be a better NBA prospect without a doubt.  Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

Chance?  yes.  Not immediately, and surely not surrounded with the experience and players that Collins was in his formiddable years.  GMAFB on Markieff > Aldrich.  Aldrich's presence in the paint is/was far greater than Markieff.  Sure, Markieff might be able to draw out the opposing player's bigs, but nobody is going to give two sh*ts about attacking a front court of Morris'.  

[CHONGS]

So who is KU booting this offseason to make room for all these recruits?

Obviously C. Henry.  Can someone here help me out with the math?
Little might be in troubs too.  

Collins  -  Woolridge

Aldrich  -  Selby

Henry  -  Lamb



*CJ Henry is a walk-on.

That's true, but I also though CJ's potential scholly was the "ransom" to keep Xavier around for longer.  Well then CJ will be a walk-off next year then.

CJ's tuition is paid for by the New York Yankees.

Duh.
It's not about the "money", its about pride man.

It was sorta about the money with Xavier.

[WillieWatanabe]

Hey BMW, What's it like to have recruiting information at your fingertips?? 

[waks]

Also, you are wrong about Doron Lamb as well.


G Doron Lamb (No. 21)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and West Virginia

The latest word concerning Lamb's recruitment is that he is truly undecided at this point. He has officially visited all of his schools except for West Virginia. Arizona has a strong connection with the shooting guard since he played travel team ball with the New York Gauchos under Emmanuel Richardson, who is now an Arizona assistant. Also, Lamb will announce his decision at the Jordan Brand Game along with Selby. Could they both be headed to Kansas?

Again, I haven't read much on the two other than what has been said on the Phog but few posters on the Phog seem as confident as you that KU will land these two.

You must be looking in all the wrong places then.  Selby has been penciled into next year's starting lineup by about half the phog already.

Maybe so. Still, assuming KU loses Aldrich and Henry and Pullen remains on the team, KU is looking at third in the Big XII next year behind K-State and Baylor. If Self misses on Selby and Lamb then I would say Missouri gets the nod over you guys as well.

Seriously?  How do you say that after KU has won back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back Big 12 regular season titles? 

The Big XII hasn't been nearly this strong and KU loses three of their starting five while K-State loses one key player and Baylor loses one (or two, if/when Udoh goes). Is it really that shocking?

[sonofdaxjones]

Really eating on Ben to see ku fail so often in the NCAA tourney under Self.   

Meanwhile guys like Izzo go to their 6th Final Four in 12 years.

[CNS]

General Rule of Thumb:

If Marcus Morris is your go-to scorer, you are going to suck.

The last time he faced K-State, he had 18 points and 8 rebounds.  You don't know sh*t.

Primary option???  I may also not know sh*t, but was Morris the primary option in KU's offense this year? 

Nope.

Things change.  Great players can make others around them better.  With Cole gone, Marcus may not look like such a stud.

[OregonSmock]

General Rule of Thumb:

If Marcus Morris is your go-to scorer, you are going to suck.

The last time he faced K-State, he had 18 points and 8 rebounds.  You don't know sh*t.

Primary option???  I may also not know sh*t, but was Morris the primary option in KU's offense this year? 

Nope.

Things change.  Great players can make others around them better.  With Cole gone, Marcus may not look like such a stud.

He was KU's leading scorer during Big 12 season.  KU's system doesn't have a primary option. 

[CNS]

General Rule of Thumb:

If Marcus Morris is your go-to scorer, you are going to suck.

The last time he faced K-State, he had 18 points and 8 rebounds.  You don't know sh*t.

Primary option???  I may also not know sh*t, but was Morris the primary option in KU's offense this year? 

Nope.

Things change.  Great players can make others around them better.  With Cole gone, Marcus may not look like such a stud.

He was KU's leading scorer during Big 12 season.  KU's system doesn't have a primary option. 

Every team has a primary option.   Every coach on every team has someone they want to have shooting the ball given a choice.  To say differently is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Are you not understanding that having Cole has the other big down low provided major opportunity for marcus that he probably couldn't have created on his own?

[Mikeyis4dcats]

Selby says he's still considering 5 schools, and that no one school is in the lead.

[EllToPay]

Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

Cole has been gone for 30 minutes, and he's already getting thrown under the bus by KU fans. Wow. 

[DQ12]

Jake was not in class today.   

[OregonSmock]

Really eating on Ben to see ku fail so often in the NCAA tourney under Self.  

Meanwhile guys like Izzo go to their 6th Final Four in 12 years.

Self's last NCAA title - '08

Izzo's last NCAA title - '00
 






I will take 33-3, Big 12 champs, #1 overall in the country and a 2nd round upset loss over what programs like UNC, UConn, Arizona, UCLA, Indiana, etc, did this  season.  The NCAA tournament is tough, man.  You said it yourself... to be a good program you just have to get there repeatedly and hope that you get lucky every once in a while.

[CNS]

Jake was not in class today.   

Poor guy is still hurting.

[CNS]

Really eating on Ben to see ku fail so often in the NCAA tourney under Self.   

Meanwhile guys like Izzo go to their 6th Final Four in 12 years.

Self's last NCAA title - '08

Izzo's last NCAA title - '00
 






I will take 33-3, Big 12 champs, #1 overall in the country and a 2nd round upset loss over UNC, UConn, Arizona, UCLA, and Indiana's seasons this year. 

Izzo could be making this a very stupid response with in the next week or so.

[OregonSmock]

I will take Self's one national title over Roy's four Final Fours at KU any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  Izzo is an incredible coach, but his teams haven't finished once they get to the Final Four (except for '00 in Indianapolis).

[Dugout DickStone]

I will take Self's one national title over Roy's four Final Fours any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Roy has 2 national titles.   

[CHONGS]

How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.

[OregonSmock]

How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.

One Final Four.  One National Championship.