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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #125 on: March 29, 2010, 04:54:22 PM »
How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.



One Final Four.  One National Championship. 

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #126 on: March 29, 2010, 04:56:55 PM »
How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.



One Final Four.  One National Championship. 
I can't imagine there are too many other active coaches who have been the Final Four!  WOW!  I guess Bill Self really has set himself apart from the other coaches.

So what is the calculus used here?  How many Final Fours =  A Nat'l Title?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #127 on: March 29, 2010, 05:05:27 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #128 on: March 29, 2010, 05:07:03 PM »
How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.



One Final Four.  One National Championship. 
I can't imagine there are too many other active coaches who have been the Final Four!  WOW!  I guess Bill Self really has set himself apart from the other coaches.

So what is the calculus used here?  How many Final Fours =  A Nat'l Title?



For a fanbase that still has permaboners because of an Elite Eight appearance, you'd think you guys would acknowledge that Self has taken three different programs to the Elite Eight.  He has taken KU to four Sweet Sixteens, three Elite Eights, a Final Four, and a National Championship.  That is nothing to look down upon, especially as a K-State fan whose team just went to its first Elite Eight since 1988.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #129 on: March 29, 2010, 05:08:22 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?



No, it just means that Markieff is more versatile on offense.  Look no further than Markieff's 52.7% 3-point percentage. 


Aldrich improved a ton during his time at KU.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #130 on: March 29, 2010, 05:13:26 PM »
How many final fours does Bill have?  I imagine it has to be a whole bunch.



One Final Four.  One National Championship. 
I can't imagine there are too many other active coaches who have been the Final Four!  WOW!  I guess Bill Self really has set himself apart from the other coaches.

So what is the calculus used here?  How many Final Fours =  A Nat'l Title?



For a fanbase that still has permaboners because of an Elite Eight appearance, you'd think you guys would acknowledge that Self has taken three different programs to the Elite Eight.  He has taken KU to four Sweet Sixteens, three Elite Eights, a Final Four, and a National Championship.  That is nothing to look down upon, especially as a K-State fan whose team just went to its first Elite Eight since 1988.
Why the :jerk: for Izzo then?  You not impressed?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #131 on: March 29, 2010, 05:13:48 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?



No, it just means that Markieff is more versatile on offense.  Look no further than Markieff's 52.7% 3-point percentage. 


Aldrich improved a ton during his time at KU.

The NBA disagrees.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #132 on: March 29, 2010, 05:19:17 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?



No, it just means that Markieff is more versatile on offense.  Look no further than Markieff's 52.7% 3-point percentage. 


Aldrich improved a ton during his time at KU.

The NBA disagrees.




None of the guys in the projected lottery for this year's draft are playing in the Final Four.  KU only had one guy who was a lottery pick when they won it all in '08 (Rush).  Both the Morris twins are on NBA scouts' radar, and Marcus will definitely be drafted in a year or two.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #133 on: March 29, 2010, 05:28:55 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?



No, it just means that Markieff is more versatile on offense.  Look no further than Markieff's 52.7% 3-point percentage. 


Aldrich improved a ton during his time at KU.

The NBA disagrees.




None of the guys in the projected lottery for this year's draft are playing in the Final Four.  KU only had one guy who was a lottery pick when they won it all in '08 (Rush).  Both the Morris twins are on NBA scouts' radar, and Marcus will definitely be drafted in a year or two.

Do you have Attention Deficit Disorder beacuse nothing at all in my posts say anything about the Final Four. 

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #134 on: March 29, 2010, 05:33:20 PM »
Why the :jerk: for Izzo then?  You not impressed?

Yeah, no kidding.  Don't see why you felt the need to try to tear down Izzo by comparing him to Self.
"It could be best for his family for Cole to come back." -- Bill Self, NBA career killer

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #135 on: March 29, 2010, 05:34:30 PM »
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Markieff was more effective than Aldrich in a lot of games this year, especially on offense.  For as good as Aldrich was on defense, he was limited offensively.

So, does this mean Manning is an over-rated post player coach since he couldn't get a McDonald's All-American post to be nothing better than meh on offense, despite working with him for three years & apparently thousands of summer camps?



No, it just means that Markieff is more versatile on offense.  Look no further than Markieff's 52.7% 3-point percentage. 


Aldrich improved a ton during his time at KU.

The NBA disagrees.

So do the numbers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36170

-3.5 ppg worse than last year
-Worse assist to turnover ratio from last year
-3% worse shooting from the field
-11% worse shooting from the FT line
-Never scored more than 20 points in a single game (did it 7 times the season before)

All while having a probable NBA lottery pick floating around the perimeter which he didn't have last year.

Danning Manning gets more credit for the typical freshman to sophomore bump in offensive production from post players than any coach I've ever seen.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #136 on: March 29, 2010, 05:56:03 PM »
Ben in 100% ku validation and affirmation mode . . . as per usual.




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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #138 on: March 29, 2010, 06:37:05 PM »
also in Jedi Mind Trick mode left and right.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2010, 06:45:33 PM »
love it when bmw counts his recruiting chickens before they're hatched.




Maybe so, but the word on the street is that Selby is a heavy KU lean.

Selby taking a visit to Kentucky. LOL.



PG Josh Selby (No. 4)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky and Tennessee

A one-time Tennessee commitment, Selby is considered by many to be a Kansas lean. He has visited the school twice and has recently cancelled scheduled visits to Connecticut and Kentucky. There is also talk of Tennessee possibly making inroads in an attempt to win Selby back. He is scheduled to announce his decision April 17 at the Jordan Brand All-Star Game.

Uhm.....Ben. http://theshiver.com/2010/03/selby-still-may-visit-kentucky/

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« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2010, 07:54:56 PM »
Beems, I think Michigan State fans would take going to Final Four twice as a 5 seed and going to the Elite Eight as a 7 seed over three epic tourney failures in seven years.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #141 on: March 30, 2010, 07:40:25 AM »
Could this play into Jake's decision?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #142 on: March 30, 2010, 03:32:00 PM »
Meanwhile, while all you butt pirates are talking about Marqueef, etc...Jake is gonna "go".

Tears.
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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #143 on: March 30, 2010, 03:36:56 PM »
What's your source? 

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #144 on: March 30, 2010, 03:49:10 PM »
What's your source? 

Louisiana or Los Angeles? Both geographically inferior places

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #145 on: March 30, 2010, 03:58:19 PM »
Los Angeles.

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #146 on: March 30, 2010, 04:04:56 PM »
Meanwhile, while all you butt pirates are talking about Marqueef, etc...Jake is gonna "go".

Tears.

Who is talking about Marqueef?

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #147 on: March 30, 2010, 04:06:02 PM »
love it when bmw counts his recruiting chickens before they're hatched.




Maybe so, but the word on the street is that Selby is a heavy KU lean.

Selby taking a visit to Kentucky. LOL.



PG Josh Selby (No. 4)

Schools in the mix: Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky and Tennessee

A one-time Tennessee commitment, Selby is considered by many to be a Kansas lean. He has visited the school twice and has recently cancelled scheduled visits to Connecticut and Kentucky. There is also talk of Tennessee possibly making inroads in an attempt to win Selby back. He is scheduled to announce his decision April 17 at the Jordan Brand All-Star Game.

Uhm.....Ben. http://theshiver.com/2010/03/selby-still-may-visit-kentucky/

Who did he say might go to the same school with?  If there's a pkg deal with 2 1ndun 'cruits, I like Coach Cal's chances.

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« Reply #148 on: March 30, 2010, 04:09:41 PM »
What's your source? 

Louisiana or Los Angeles? Both geographically inferior places

Anyone who thinks LA is inferior is not worth arguing with!

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Re: Jake is making me feel VERY uncomfortable
« Reply #149 on: March 30, 2010, 04:27:58 PM »
Is Jake's game suited for the NBA, he's got the range I think . . . I just don't know if he's got the build and it seems he has a hard time finishing in traffic.

But if he goes, I wish him the best, but DraftExpress has him 47th in the Jr. Class . . . can he improve his stock enough to make it worth it??