Poll

What Would Our Current Record Be If Daniel Sams Was QB The Majority Of Snaps?

6-2
37 (53.6%)
5-3
16 (23.2%)
4-4
11 (15.9%)
3-5
1 (1.4%)
2-6
4 (5.8%)

Total Members Voted: 68

Author Topic: What Would Our Current Record Be If Daniel Sams Was QB The Majority Of Snaps?  (Read 4905 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline steve dave

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 88620
  • Romantic Fist Attachment
    • View Profile
 :Wha:


(Want to get rid of the ad? Register now for free!)

Offline scottwildcat

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16430
    • View Profile
8-0

Offline Brock Landers

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 7243
    • View Profile
I feel like this thread has been started a few times already just with a differently worded thread title.

catzacker

  • Guest
based on some stats i read earlier, i would guess it would be the same record as it is now. 

Offline kso_FAN

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 29506
    • View Profile
based on some stats i read earlier, i would guess it would be the same record as it is now. 

Your ZACKalysis fails to account for the following:
a) Sams having extra "practice" in games would allow him to make fewer mistakes. Point Sams.
b) Even the mistakes Sams has made don't count anyway because there were various extenuating circumstances that caused them. Point Sams.

Offline slobber

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 12427
  • Gonna win 'em all!
    • View Profile
based on some stats i read earlier, i would guess it would be the same record as it is now. 

Your ZACKalysis fails to account for the following:
a) Sams having extra "practice" in games would allow him to make fewer mistakes. Point Sams.
b) Even the mistakes Sams has made don't count anyway because there were various extenuating circumstances that caused them. Point Sams.
:dubious: :curse:

Offline PowercatPat

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 4427
  • #BID
    • View Profile
I feel like this thread has been started a few times already just with a differently worded thread title.

Ya, people need to get over it.

Offline troubledscribe

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1674
    • View Profile
8-0

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38017
    • View Profile
Majority doesn't mean much. We are 7-1 or 8-0 if he gets them all.

Offline kougar24

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 5380
    • View Profile
We wouldn't have even punted yet. The only reason we've ever punted on a Sams-led drive to date is because he's had to come in cold to relieve the disgusting ineffectiveness of that other quarterback.

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38017
    • View Profile
What would our record be if neither Sams nor Waters had taken any snaps to this point (Joe Hubener all day all night)? I would say either 3-5 or 4-4.

Offline Benja

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 6365
    • View Profile
Good thread.

Offline HeinBallz

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 2868
    • View Profile
5-3
Good is better than Evil because it's nicer.

Offline HeinBallz

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 2868
    • View Profile
Maybe 6-2 with a more experienced Sams running the show against Baylor.
Good is better than Evil because it's nicer.

Offline ksufan44

  • Fan
  • *
  • Posts: 90
    • View Profile
What I don't understand are how people are overlooking the fact that Sams has been in the program 3 years, while this is Waters' 1st. I sure hope that Sams outplays Waters. Granted we move the ball better with Sams, the fact that he hasn't outright won the QB race is slightly concerning.

Offline pvegs

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 2198
    • View Profile
What I don't understand are how people are overlooking the fact that Sams has been in the program 3 years, while this is Waters' 1st. I sure hope that Sams outplays Waters. Granted we move the ball better with Sams, the fact that he hasn't outright won the QB race is slightly concerning.

Have heard this pt. Valid but ignores that Sams wasn't a full time QB in HS and has necessarily taken a couple years to learn the developmental aspects of being a full-time QB at a Big 12 school.

Offline kougar24

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 5380
    • View Profile
What I don't understand are how people are overlooking the fact that Sams has been in the program 3 years, while this is Waters' 1st. I sure hope that Sams outplays Waters. Granted we move the ball better with Sams, the fact that he hasn't outright won the QB race is slightly concerning.

Some guys are just gamers, man.

Offline ksufan44

  • Fan
  • *
  • Posts: 90
    • View Profile
I think that we just got spoiled from having CK as a quarterback the last 2 years. I just want wins and whoever that may be, Sams, Waters, or both, I will take that.

Offline yoga-like_abana

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 13510
  • Don't @ me boy, cause I ain't said crap
    • View Profile
I ran this scenario through a very complex formula and we would be 6-2

Offline AbeFroman

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 8330
    • View Profile
6-2

Waters served up the game on a plate to north Dakota, and then the butt fumble

Offline steve dave

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 88620
  • Romantic Fist Attachment
    • View Profile
I think that we just got spoiled from having CK as a quarterback the last 2 years. I just want wins and whoever that may be, Sams, Waters, or both, I will take that.

agreed 100%. also it's sams.

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38017
    • View Profile
What I don't understand are how people are overlooking the fact that Sams has been in the program 3 years, while this is Waters' 1st. I sure hope that Sams outplays Waters. Granted we move the ball better with Sams, the fact that he hasn't outright won the QB race is slightly concerning.

The stats aren't even close. Sams has been far better at moving the ball down the field and getting points than Waters has. He hasn't won the QB race in Bill's eyes, but you can't take a step back and look at the numbers and say that he shouldn't be playing every down.

Offline steve dave

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 88620
  • Romantic Fist Attachment
    • View Profile
What I don't understand are how people are overlooking the fact that Sams has been in the program 3 years, while this is Waters' 1st. I sure hope that Sams outplays Waters. Granted we move the ball better with Sams, the fact that he hasn't outright won the QB race is slightly concerning.

bill has been in the program for 87 years and has been a dumbass when it comes to not playing the superior player who would give us a better chance to win for all of those years and yet he still can't quit being a dumbass about it. he's good at other stuff, tho.

Offline sonofdaxjones

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 59692
    • View Profile
Maybe a better question might be, what would our record be if when Waters played they let him play to his strengths, and when Sams played they let him throw the ball more and quit trying to run with him in the manner they have against 8 and 9 man fronts (with hours of film viewing going to back to last year with the recipe for blowing up our QB running game on it).


Offline steve dave

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 88620
  • Romantic Fist Attachment
    • View Profile
Maybe a better question might be, what would our record be if when Waters played they let him play to his strengths, and when Sams played they let him throw the ball more and quit trying to run with him in the manner they have against 8 and 9 man fronts (with hours of film viewing going to back to last year with the recipe for blowing up our QB running game on it).

that question is boring, tho