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What Would Our Current Record Be If Daniel Sams Was QB The Majority Of Snaps?

6-2
37 (53.6%)
5-3
16 (23.2%)
4-4
11 (15.9%)
3-5
1 (1.4%)
2-6
4 (5.8%)

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Offline kso_FAN

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The system used with Waters has been fairly successful, even the running game. I only really have two issues when looking at how he's been used; a) speed option is a terrible play for him to run and b) if anything he (or the backs) perhaps should be running more, especially on 1st/2nd down. Part of the problem he's had with 3 and outs when he's in is that he's asked to throw more often on 1st down, which sets up 2nd and long which never has been a great down/distance for Snyder (or any team). When Waters is off (which he goes through funks of being off, especially on quick throws toward the sidelines), that usually leads to 3rd and 10 and a punt.

I agree that Sams has to be allowed to throw more, but I think the passing game they have for him is far more limited than for Waters. Even on his two late picks against OSU and Baylor, he had pretty simply 2 level route reads (short and intermediate). Against OSU he made the incorrect read and threw the deep ball into double coverage, against Baylor it was more like the fortunate completion to Thompson last week; he got flushed from the pocket and tried to make a play and threw a bad ball. Generally when he takes the shorter routes to the sidelines he's in pretty good shape and completes them at a very high level. The deep ball he threw to Thompson last week was the same route that Waters missed in the 1st quarter, and then underthrew (but Thompson caught) on the drive previous to the Sams' throw.

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solution for your guy waters: don't airmail receivers on first down  :surprised:

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solution for your guy waters: don't airmail receivers on first down  :surprised:

Good idea.

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Since North Dakota State (who some argue could be a top 25 FBS team this year) and Baylor remain undefeated and, and the same question could be said of how much OSU and UT have improved since making their adjustments as well, would it have really mattered?  Sams playing more had not bearing on K-State giving at least 2 victories away based on uncharacteristially playing undisciplined football.  I doubt they would have won with Klein making those type of mistakes.   

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solution for your guy waters: don't airmail receivers on first down  :surprised:

also: pay even the slightest bit of attention to rushing defenders.

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Since North Dakota State (who some argue could be a top 25 FBS team this year)

Absolutely nobody could argue that.

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Since North Dakota State (who some argue could be a top 25 FBS team this year)

Absolutely nobody could argue that.

someone could argue that on the losing side of an argument

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anyone could argue anything you guys, jeez.

Offline Rage Against the McKee

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anyone could argue anything you guys, jeez.

I guess so, but I don't see anybody trying to argue that Iowa State is the best team in the Big 12, which would be equally as ridiculous as arguing that NDSU is one of the 25 best college football teams in America.

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Since North Dakota State (who some argue could be a top 25 FBS team this year)

Absolutely nobody could argue that.
Try googling that and get back with us.

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welp, looks like over 50% of the most intelligent message board community on the internet thinks we would be 6-2 with our guy at the helm. oh well. who the hell are all of you to question LHC Bill Snyder, etc.

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welp, looks like over 50% of the most intelligent message board community on the internet thinks we would be 6-2 with our guy at the helm. oh well. who the hell are all of you to question LHC LHC Bill Snyder, etc.
There would be more division if you had 7-1 and 8-0 as options. Maybe you should say "looks like over 50% of the most intelligent message board community on the internet things we would be at least 6-2..."

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Kind of irrelevant and sorry if Luke'd, but I guess our guy had to take 2 classes this summer so that he could become eligible for the fall (he did not have a good spring semester I guess). Maybe that has something to do with what led up to getting Waters here. Source A+.

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Kind of irrelevant and sorry if Luke'd, but I guess our guy had to take 2 classes this summer so that he could become eligible for the fall (he did not have a good spring semester I guess). Maybe that has something to do with what led up to getting Waters here. Source A+.

Waters knew what was good for him. Playing for Pedo state was not one of those things.