Author Topic: Sams interception with 3 minutes left might be THE dumbest play in KSU history  (Read 15974 times)

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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-10-12/kevin-haskin-k-state-had-baylor-run-so-why-pass

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/12/3055875/bob-lutz-despite-loss-this-should.html

  Both echo my points.

rough ridin' stupid decision by Sams on the throw and Staff on the call.

Sams is our best option at QB.


The offense that many of you are taking to those statements is ridiculous.

Pete, it's fine. We all agree it was not a good decision.

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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-10-12/kevin-haskin-k-state-had-baylor-run-so-why-pass

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/12/3055875/bob-lutz-despite-loss-this-should.html

  Both echo my points.

rough ridin' stupid decision by Sams on the throw and Staff on the call.

Sams is our best option at QB.


The offense that many of you are taking to those statements is ridiculous.

why does thinking you are wrong equal taking offense? I mean, I know you're wrong. I still like you and I'm not mad at you. nobody's perfect. not even our guy Daniel.

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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a play and he didn't.

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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a pay and he didn't.

yeah, he's got to get better at throwing the ball away. collin became very good at accepting a loss or getting rid of the ball. our guy just tries to make every play a winning play. which hurts more than it helps on plays like that. live to fight another day daniel.

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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a pay and he didn't.

yeah, he's got to get better at throwing the ball away. collin became very good at accepting a loss or getting rid of the ball. our guy just tries to make every play a winning play. which hurts more than it helps on plays like that. live to fight another day daniel.

BTW, I think I'm just going to call him "our guy" from now on. May even make a #life/our guy t-shirt.

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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a pay and he didn't.

yeah, he's got to get better at throwing the ball away. collin became very good at accepting a loss or getting rid of the ball. our guy just tries to make every play a winning play. which hurts more than it helps on plays like that. live to fight another day daniel.

BTW, I think I'm just going to call him "our guy" from now on. May even make a #life/our guy t-shirt.

that is a very good idea _FAN.

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Where does taking two straight sacks while holding the ball for a billion seconds while attempting a 2 minute dril rank on the dumb scale?

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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-10-12/kevin-haskin-k-state-had-baylor-run-so-why-pass

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/12/3055875/bob-lutz-despite-loss-this-should.html

  Both echo my points.

rough ridin' stupid decision by Sams on the throw and Staff on the call.

Sams is our best option at QB.


The offense that many of you are taking to those statements is ridiculous.

why does thinking you are wrong equal taking offense? I mean, I know you're wrong. I still like you and I'm not mad at you. nobody's perfect. not even our guy Daniel.


I said it was a stupid play, an that Sams is our best option at QB.  You think that is wrong?

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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-10-12/kevin-haskin-k-state-had-baylor-run-so-why-pass

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/12/3055875/bob-lutz-despite-loss-this-should.html

  Both echo my points.

rough ridin' stupid decision by Sams on the throw and Staff on the call.

Sams is our best option at QB.


The offense that many of you are taking to those statements is ridiculous.

why does thinking you are wrong equal taking offense? I mean, I know you're wrong. I still like you and I'm not mad at you. nobody's perfect. not even our guy Daniel.


I said it was a stupid play, an that Sams is our best option at QB.  You think that is wrong?

no. I think saying his INT may have been THE dumbest play in KSU history is wrong. also saying he is a "rough ridin' idiot" is wrong.

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Where does taking two straight sacks while holding the ball for a billion seconds while attempting a 2 minute dril rank on the dumb scale?

pretty dumb. not THE dumbest but dumb.

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http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-10-12/kevin-haskin-k-state-had-baylor-run-so-why-pass

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/12/3055875/bob-lutz-despite-loss-this-should.html

  Both echo my points.

rough ridin' stupid decision by Sams on the throw and Staff on the call.

Sams is our best option at QB.


The offense that many of you are taking to those statements is ridiculous.

why does thinking you are wrong equal taking offense? I mean, I know you're wrong. I still like you and I'm not mad at you. nobody's perfect. not even our guy Daniel.


I said it was a stupid play, an that Sams is our best option at QB.  You think that is wrong?

no. I think saying his INT may have been THE dumbest play in KSU history is wrong. also your text saying he was dumber than webb was wrong.

My text?  Jesus.

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Sounds like this house is divided.. warm up the license plates!

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I nominate the Schwinn option pitch to a Marshall defender for this thread, personally.

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Hey Pete, I did some research and the INT was with 3:48 left. NOT 3 minutes. If anything round to 4 minutes. Nice inaccurate thread title.

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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a play and he didn't.


I agree. Sams thought Trujillo wouldn't be a pussy, but he was one.

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This was a good point from Lutz:

"Clearly, though, Snyder doesn’t trust him to pass except, apparently, on one of the most crucial plays of the game."
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I liked the call, take a shot on 2nd and short. Play action, roll out; basically a run/pass option. Only 2 receivers to read at two levels, simple. Our guy just thought he could make a play and he didn't.


I agree. Sams thought Trujillo wouldn't be a pussy, but he was one.

I wonder if Trujillo getting banged up earlier made him timid. shouldn't have thrown that either way, tho.

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Remember when total dork puds hated Angel? That's Pete. That's EXACTLY who he's acting like.
bingo -  great post

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We need him to stop playing QB. He needs to switch to DB to fix that ATROCIOUS secondary.. Or WR. Because he is an AWFUL quarterback. Great GREAT athlete who can run and wiggle. As hard as it is for me to admit it because I would love for him to be our qb. The guy just sucks at playing QB.  My little sister has a stronger arm than sams
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The play call? Maybe?  To put this loss on Sams is really stupid.

I think everyone knows bill got out coached, again.

What was the play call? I thought he was trying to throw it away at the end of a busted play or make a last ditch pass attempt on the sideline.

He was definitely trying to complete a pass there. He doesn't have presence at the end of games when we are trailing with no timeouts. Most QBs don't. The key is not putting ourselves in those situations in the first place.
He doesn't?  We've seen two games of him where most of his throwing(idiotically) comes late in the game when they still have time to run.  You can't judge a QB over two games when he's played extremely well for most of them and missing his top 2 receivers who are all big 12 caliber.

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We need him to stop playing QB. He needs to switch to DB to fix that ATROCIOUS secondary.. Or WR. Because he is an AWFUL quarterback. Great GREAT athlete who can run and wiggle. As hard as it is for me to admit it because I would love for him to be our qb. The guy just sucks at playing QB.  My little sister has a stronger arm than sams
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However, you CAN judge a QB when he's been inefficient on 90+% of the drives he's played on the year, like Waters.

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Back then after a game did you guys write messages on a physical bulletin board in the dorm lobby or something as a way of discussing the play calls and stuff?


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How has nobody nominated the butt fumble in Austin three weeks ago?  :confused: