Things that less choke than Sams

[Rage Against the McKee]

JT,  could CK  hit guys in stride as a sophomore?

CK had spent his redshirt and freshman years at WR and barely played his sophomore year.   After practicing the entire season at QB, his junior year was quite special.   Sams has spent his entire career at QB.   Do you think that he hasn't received any coaching over the last two plus years and he's going to magically improve over the upcoming off season or something?   Right now, he's averaging an interception every eight attempts and has twice as many INTs as passing TDs.   We really should bring in a juco QB next year and move Sams to RB.   It worked for Thomas, who's still on an NFL roster.  Sams isn't going to the league at QB, might as well move him for everyone's benefit.

Klein was a terrible passer.  He had Harper, Lockett and Thompson to throw to and he was awful against any team with an average defense.  Sams is already a better passer than Klein was.

Also, you're a god awful poster and should leave this place.

If we had Waters the last two seasons, CK was good enough to keep his ass on the bench.   Sams is so bad at QB that the coaches are forced to use Waters.

CK couldn't beat out Coffman.

What, the redshirt sophomore who spent the last two years at WR couldn't beat out the senior?!   This is the guy who Sams split time with in high school:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Matt-Lipham-103875

Roberson couldn't beat out Dunn.

[kougar24]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

[jtksu]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

[kougar24]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

[jtksu]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?   

[ChiComCat]

The late dumbass play calls killed us.  We have 4.5 minutes, only need a FG, and a QB that is averaging 6.5 a carry.  We could still run the ball.  Run the ball on first and show Baylor you're still willing to run the ball.  That may open up receivers and the pass more than coming out in a panic, which is basically what they expected after we did it the whole second half last year.

[MakeItRain]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

[kougar24]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

He really doesn't understand it, apparently.

[jtksu]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

[michigancat]

There's criticizing, and there's saying he chokes more than David Carradine.

[MakeItRain]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

Is this an attempt at a world record for most strawmen in one paragraph? What the hell just happened here?

[jtksu]

There's criticizing, and there's saying he chokes more than David Carradine.

Kung Fu only choked once.   

[jtksu]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

Is this an attempt at a world record for most strawmen in one paragraph? What the hell just happened here?

Interesting way to avoid answering any questions.  Also, I question your grasp of the strawman concept.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams. 

Not really. Time wasn't really on our side in either of those games. We certainly had a chance, but I wouldn't say we were more likely to win than lose in either of them.

[MakeItRain]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

Is this an attempt at a world record for most strawmen in one paragraph? What the hell just happened here?

Interesting way to avoid answering any questions.  Also, I question your grasp of the strawman concept.

I don't think anyone is talking about Waters here but you, I certainly didn't. I can only surmise you mentioned him to sidestep the point. I didn't address your point because you didn't address ours. Not only didn't you address the point but you want everyone to ignore the fact that the only reason we had a shot against Baylor was because we had over 300 yards rushing and dominated the TOP. If he didn't do what he did with his legs that one interception you're freaking out would have had no consequence.

Thing is I don't think you're dumb, all of this is just you unwilling to admit that your initial posts were reactionary. No one is attacking you because you're critical of Sams, in fact no one is attacking you at all, just pointing out your logic flaws. If you would have questioned his decision making in a rational way you would have experienced less pushback. Instead you called the guy a choker, obviously dumb, and questioned his ability to pass which is obviously not the issue. Don't victimize yourself when you get challenged, no on forced your dumb talking points down your throat.

[Rams]

anybody that remembers klein as anything more than a serviceable passer is suffering from a sever case of rosy retrospection.  his timing was god awful.  his 2 favorite passes were either overthrowing tlbl by 5 yards if he was covered even a little bit or underthrowing him to the point that he had to completely stop and wait for the ball if he was wide open.  he played to not turn the ball over first and try to make a play second.  right now, sams is the exact opposite. 

at this point, I'm not sure there's a lot of difference between klein and sams when it comes to pure passing ability.  sams release is obviously a lot quicker, but I think their accuracy is pretty similar.  again, the difference in my mind is that sams is trying to make plays and klein was much more conservative.  sams will probably never be rg3, but I do think he can end up being much better than klein by next year.  his decision making is his biggest drawback at this point and that will come with more coaching and experience.  also, his timing has to be suffering a little because the 2 receivers that he's probably most comfortable with are sitting on the sidelines.

[jtksu]

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams. 

Not really. Time wasn't really on our side in either of those games. We certainly had a chance, but I wouldn't say we were more likely to win than lose in either of them.

We had like 4 minutes at the end of the Baylor game to move into FG position.  That's a ton of time.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams. 

Not really. Time wasn't really on our side in either of those games. We certainly had a chance, but I wouldn't say we were more likely to win than lose in either of them.

We had like 4 minutes at the end of the Baylor game to move into FG position.  That's a ton of time.

It's doable, but I would rather be in Baylor's position than ours there.

[PurpleSleezyE]

Reading this thread is making me want to choke someone!  I am not a violent man, but I am ready to go Steve Dave on some of the stupid crap are saying about #Life. 

[Tobias]

Reading this thread is making me want to choke someone!  I am not a violent man, but I am ready to go Steve Dave on some of the stupid crap are saying about #Life.

i think you mean @TrimGoEMAW

[eastcat]

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams. 

Not really. Time wasn't really on our side in either of those games. We certainly had a chance, but I wouldn't say we were more likely to win than lose in either of them.

We had like 4 minutes at the end of the Baylor game to move into FG position.  That's a ton of time.

Not when you don't have any timeouts and you are running the ball every down. With our 'check with me' clock management it's even worse.

[jtksu]

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams. 

Not really. Time wasn't really on our side in either of those games. We certainly had a chance, but I wouldn't say we were more likely to win than lose in either of them.

We had like 4 minutes at the end of the Baylor game to move into FG position.  That's a ton of time.

Not when you don't have any timeouts and you are running the ball every down. With our 'check with me' clock management it's even worse.

Why would we be running the ball every play?

[Shooter Jones]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

Is this an attempt at a world record for most strawmen in one paragraph? What the hell just happened here?

Interesting way to avoid answering any questions.  Also, I question your grasp of the strawman concept.

I don't think anyone is talking about Waters here but you, I certainly didn't. I can only surmise you mentioned him to sidestep the point. I didn't address your point because you didn't address ours. Not only didn't you address the point but you want everyone to ignore the fact that the only reason we had a shot against Baylor was because we had over 300 yards rushing and dominated the TOP. If he didn't do what he did with his legs that one interception you're freaking out would have had no consequence.

Thing is I don't think you're dumb, all of this is just you unwilling to admit that your initial posts were reactionary. No one is attacking you because you're critical of Sams, in fact no one is attacking you at all, just pointing out your logic flaws. If you would have questioned his decision making in a rational way you would have experienced less pushback. Instead you called the guy a choker, obviously dumb, and questioned his ability to pass which is obviously not the issue. Don't victimize yourself when you get challenged, no on forced your dumb talking points down your throat.

^^^This^^^

This is what dumbasses don't understand. Baylor scored a TD every 4 minutes of possession against us, with scoring drives averaging around 1:50. Without S4ms and the run game controlling the clock, Baylor would've had probably 8-12 minutes more of possession and put up 50+ on us. That interception wouldn't have meant crap when we were down 52-24.

*Keep in mind the TOP was 39.5-20.5, AND that was hurt due to 2 turnoverdeliverysystem.com 3 and outs in the game.

[jtksu]

Sams can run but his inability to pass is killing us.

The fact that you don't see the inherent stupidity of that statement is baffling.

Wut?   Which part is wrong?

"...his inability to pass is killing us."

So it's helping us?  Or do you mean that he is a capable passer?

His legs have been our most consistent threat moving the ball, do you really not understand this?

I've never debated that.   However, his inability to pass has killed us.   Without the late picks, we have a great chance to beat two ranked teams.   I feel like you guys are so intent on attacking anyone who says anything negative about Sams that you ignore very basic things.   For example, the fact that this thread is about Sams choking late in games.   It's not about Waters being better than Sams, nor is it about Sams not being able to effectively move the ball with his legs.  I can only assume that your feeble minds are unable to process more than one thought at a time and your default response to criticism of Sams is to immediately go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I hope those around you have plenty of windex and paper towels.

Is this an attempt at a world record for most strawmen in one paragraph? What the hell just happened here?

Interesting way to avoid answering any questions.  Also, I question your grasp of the strawman concept.

I don't think anyone is talking about Waters here but you, I certainly didn't. I can only surmise you mentioned him to sidestep the point. I didn't address your point because you didn't address ours. Not only didn't you address the point but you want everyone to ignore the fact that the only reason we had a shot against Baylor was because we had over 300 yards rushing and dominated the TOP. If he didn't do what he did with his legs that one interception you're freaking out would have had no consequence.

Thing is I don't think you're dumb, all of this is just you unwilling to admit that your initial posts were reactionary. No one is attacking you because you're critical of Sams, in fact no one is attacking you at all, just pointing out your logic flaws. If you would have questioned his decision making in a rational way you would have experienced less pushback. Instead you called the guy a choker, obviously dumb, and questioned his ability to pass which is obviously not the issue. Don't victimize yourself when you get challenged, no on forced your dumb talking points down your throat.

^^^This^^^

This is what dumbasses don't understand. Baylor scored a TD every 4 minutes of possession against us, with scoring drives averaging around 1:50. Without S4ms and the run game controlling the clock, Baylor would've had probably 8-12 minutes more of possession and put up 50+ on us. That interception wouldn't have meant crap when we were down 52-24.

*Keep in mind the TOP was 39.5-20.5, AND that was hurt due to 2 turnoverdeliverysystem.com 3 and outs in the game.

If, if if, if.   Instead of enabling poor performance I choose to focus on what did happen, not what could have happened.   Everyone loves Sams, and we all want him to have immense success.   However, he has shown little ability to pass the ball and has routinely forced passes (resulting in INTs) when it's most crucial.  Like it or not, QB are judged by wins and how they perform under pressure.   

[Shooter Jones]