Things that less choke than Sams

[jtksu]

ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE SAMS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST QB K-STATE HAS EVER HAD, THEN THEY CAN GO eff THEMSELVES. 









just give him a chance to do it.  who else do we have?

We don't have anything else.   Waters doesn't really offer any upside, at least Sams can run.  I'm hoping the return of Lockett and Thompson will open up some deep balls to WRs but I'm not confidant Sams can even hit a guy in stride so...

[Steffy08]

ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE SAMS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST QB K-STATE HAS EVER HAD, THEN THEY CAN GO eff THEMSELVES. 









just give him a chance to do it.  who else do we have?

We don't have anything else.   Waters doesn't really offer any upside, at least Sams can run.  I'm hoping the return of Lockett and Thompson will open up some deep balls to WRs but I'm not confidant Sams can even hit a guy in stride so...

SAMs played his guys out today.  Both he and waters seem to be goods kids.  No reason to pile on.  It was a tough loss for everybody.

[MixBerryCrunch]

ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE SAMS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST QB K-STATE HAS EVER HAD, THEN THEY CAN GO eff THEMSELVES. 









just give him a chance to do it.  who else do we have?

We don't have anything else.   Waters doesn't really offer any upside, at least Sams can run.  I'm hoping the return of Lockett and Thompson will open up some deep balls to WRs but I'm not confidant Sams can even hit a guy in stride so...

SAMs played his guys out today.  Both he and waters seem to be goods kids.  No reason to pile on.  It was a tough loss for everybody.

They both seem like awesome guys. But Sams is a star in the making and Waters is destined to be a really good back up.

[Steffy08]

ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE SAMS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST QB K-STATE HAS EVER HAD, THEN THEY CAN GO eff THEMSELVES. 









just give him a chance to do it.  who else do we have?

We don't have anything else.   Waters doesn't really offer any upside, at least Sams can run.  I'm hoping the return of Lockett and Thompson will open up some deep balls to WRs but I'm not confidant Sams can even hit a guy in stride so...

SAMs played his guys out today.  Both he and waters seem to be goods kids.  No reason to pile on.  It was a tough loss for everybody.

They both seem like awesome guys. But Sams is a star in the making and Waters is destined to be a really good back up.

Just let the process play out.  Picking sides and then demonizing the other guy is just stupid. 

[Katpappy]

ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE SAMS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST QB K-STATE HAS EVER HAD, THEN THEY CAN GO eff THEMSELVES. 









just give him a chance to do it.  who else do we have?

We don't have anything else.   Waters doesn't really offer any upside, at least Sams can run.  I'm hoping the return of Lockett and Thompson will open up some deep balls to WRs but I'm not confidant Sams can even hit a guy in stride so...

SAMs played his guys out today.  Both he and waters seem to be goods kids.  No reason to pile on.  It was a tough loss for everybody.

They both seem like awesome guys. But Sams is a star in the making and Waters is destined to be a really good back up.

Just let the process play out.  Picking sides and then demonizing the other guy is just stupid.

[Tobias]

steffy is one of the better posters tonight and i'm trying to let that sink in my melon

[hemmy]

HOW DID WATERS DO IN THE CLUTCH VS NDSU? HUH FUCKFACE???

[Trim]

If we demonize Waters to his face enough, he might get sad and move back to Iowa and we'd have a better chance to win games.

[lopakman]

If we demonize Waters to his face enough, he might get sad and move back to Iowa and we'd have a better chance to win games.

I'm not sure if this crap thread is the right place for you to bring in sound logic and reasoning.  It might be, but there's a lot of dumbasses out tonight.

[Katpappy]

If we demonize Waters to his face enough, he might get sad and move back to Iowa and we'd have a better chance to win games.

I'm not sure if this crap thread is the right place for you to bring in sound logic and reasoning.  It might be, but there's a lot of dumbasses out tonight.

[Trim]

If we demonize Waters to his face enough, he might get sad and move back to Iowa and we'd have a better chance to win games.

I'm not sure if this crap thread is the right place for you to bring in sound logic and reasoning.  It might be, but there's a lot of dumbasses out tonight.

It was in response to this:

SAMs played his guys out today.  Both he and waters seem to be goods kids.  No reason to pile on.  It was a tough loss for everybody.

They both seem like awesome guys. But Sams is a star in the making and Waters is destined to be a really good back up.

Just let the process play out.  Picking sides and then demonizing the other guy is just stupid. 

[jtksu]

Until Sams can hit a target, I will refuse to use the star tag.  How many times did he complete a pass to a WR that led to YAC?   I'm sure there were some but I can't think of one.   The dude is a terrible thrower and that's not a good thing to be as a QB. 

[1001]

Until Sams can hit a target, I will refuse to use the star tag.  How many times did he complete a pass to a WR that led to YAC?   I'm sure there were some but I can't think of one.   The dude is a terrible thrower and that's not a good thing to be as a QB.

Agree.

[hemmy]

Better completion % than that eff face Waters. If there is another option somewhere on the bench better than Sams then I will gladly jump on that bandwagon. You racists just don't get it. Team Sams is not about him being the best QB in history, its about him being the best shot the cat's have at winning.

[jtksu]

Better completion % than that eff face Waters. If there is another option somewhere on the bench better than Sams then I will gladly jump on that bandwagon. You racists just don't get it. Team Sams is not about him being the best QB in history, its about him being the best shot the cat's have at winning.

Once again, no one is saying Waters is better.  Also, team Sams has always been about him being great.  It's never been about him just being better than a shitty option.   

[meow meow]

Better completion % than that eff face Waters. If there is another option somewhere on the bench better than Sams then I will gladly jump on that bandwagon. You racists just don't get it. Team Sams is not about him being the best QB in history, its about him being the best shot the cat's have at winning.

Once again, no one is saying Waters is better.  Also, team Sams has always been about him being great.  It's never been about him just being better than a shitty option.

Sams just ran for 200 yards and didn't even play the entire game against the team that will likely win the big 12.  I'd consider that great regardless of one very bad decision.

[jtksu]

Better completion % than that eff face Waters. If there is another option somewhere on the bench better than Sams then I will gladly jump on that bandwagon. You racists just don't get it. Team Sams is not about him being the best QB in history, its about him being the best shot the cat's have at winning.

Once again, no one is saying Waters is better.  Also, team Sams has always been about him being great.  It's never been about him just being better than a shitty option.

Sams just ran for 200 yards and didn't even play the entire game against the team that will likely win the big 12.  I'd consider that great regardless of one very bad decision.

You do know he's a QB, right?

[star seed 7]

Better completion % than that eff face Waters. If there is another option somewhere on the bench better than Sams then I will gladly jump on that bandwagon. You racists just don't get it. Team Sams is not about him being the best QB in history, its about him being the best shot the cat's have at winning.

Once again, no one is saying Waters is better.  Also, team Sams has always been about him being great.  It's never been about him just being better than a shitty option.

Sams just ran for 200 yards and didn't even play the entire game against the team that will likely win the big 12.  I'd consider that great regardless of one very bad decision.

You do know he's a QB, right?

sure is 

[sonofdaxjones]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

[wetwillie]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

Daniel is better than Marshall

[sonofdaxjones]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

Daniel is better than Marshall

Not throwing the ball he isn't.

[kso_FAN]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

I don't think I'm in the too cool for school crowd. Almost all of Snyder's really good dual threats have needed to be developed. I think Sams can be another Beasley/Roberson/Klein.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

I don't think I'm in the too cool for school crowd. Almost all of Snyder's really good dual threats have needed to be developed. I think Sams can be another Beasley/Roberson/Klein.

Beasley was a much better passer right out of the gate, Roberson struggled in the passing game mainly be having flurries of inaccuracy, but I think back to (for example) to the long TD pass that Roberson threw at OU late in the game in 2001 and believe that Sams couldn't have made that throw with 10 tries.   

[kso_FAN]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

I don't think I'm in the too cool for school crowd. Almost all of Snyder's really good dual threats have needed to be developed. I think Sams can be another Beasley/Roberson/Klein.

Beasley was a much better passer right out of the gate, Roberson struggled in the passing game mainly be having flurries of inaccuracy, but I think back to (for example) to the long TD pass that Roberson threw at OU late in the game in 2001 and believe that Sams couldn't have made that throw with 10 tries.   

Beasley had a career completion% of 47.6%. He threw some nice balls, but he was far from an accurate passer. We really don't know what Sams can/can't do yet, but he's completing nearly 70% of his passes this year and averaging 8.2 yards per attempt. We'll see what the rest of this year and his career bring, but I doubt he is under 50% completions for his career.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sams is a great kid, but this staff has had ample opportunity to land a really good DUAL threat QB and has failed to do so.

The board likes Sams so much because the too cool for schoolers hate Waters so much.

If we had landed Marshall (for example) this board wouldn't give two $hits about Sams.

I don't think I'm in the too cool for school crowd. Almost all of Snyder's really good dual threats have needed to be developed. I think Sams can be another Beasley/Roberson/Klein.

Beasley was a much better passer right out of the gate, Roberson struggled in the passing game mainly be having flurries of inaccuracy, but I think back to (for example) to the long TD pass that Roberson threw at OU late in the game in 2001 and believe that Sams couldn't have made that throw with 10 tries.   

Beasley had a career completion% of 47.6%. He threw some nice balls, but he was far from an accurate passer. We really don't know what Sams can/can't do yet, but he's completing nearly 70% of his passes this year and averaging 8.2 yards per attempt. We'll see what the rest of this year and his career bring, but I doubt he is under 50% completions for his career.

We had a true vertical passing game when Beasley and Roberson were our QB's, hell the K-State staff put out videos regarding the vertical passing game.   It's not hard to have a 70% completion percentage when everything is 10 yards or less.   Down the field passing; Sams has been horrific.