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Re: Quit It
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2013, 09:20:44 PM »
Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback?  I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.

I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB.  Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it.  So, we have learned that so far.  Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.

So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole.  We will get better; I have no doubt.  But the solution might not involve SAMs.  It might mean we air it out with Waters.

I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too.  I can't figure it out.  But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt.  I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys.  Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon).  No reason to turn on Snyder.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2013, 09:23:22 PM »
steffy, bill has dementia.  he is not fit to coach a football team or even drive a car for that matter.

I hope you are wrong, but you can't know you are right.  Not after 4 games and 1 play out of 100+ where he forgot who our qb was in the press conference.  If he does, it will become painfully obvious.  I doubt it though.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2013, 09:30:20 PM »
steffy, bill has dementia.  he is not fit to coach a football team or even drive a car for that matter.

I hope you are wrong, but you can't know you are right.  Not after 4 games and 1 play out of 100+ where he forgot who our qb was in the press conference.  If he does, it will become painfully obvious.  I doubt it though.

it already is painfully obvious

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« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2013, 09:38:08 PM »
is the real Steffy 08 a  great  guy or gal?

Über tuck

Not at all.  The tucks hated me on gopowercat.  Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else.  I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.

Being anti-Frank post-Huggins makes you an obscene tuck.  Doesn't get any worse than anti-GRCOAT.  You're probably against ms paint rockets too.

Thinking that we were in a great position when had to hire Frank is just being stupid, regardless of what you label it.  It worked out pretty good for us, though.  Frank won us a lot of games.

I hated the Weber hire.  Tough to argue with 14-4 though.  Will see about the next couple of years.  But, I digress.

If you were anti-Frank/GRCOAT and then anti-oscar then who could you possibly be for?  Hiring Huggins and then keeping Frank were good moves, ballsy moves.  Moves winners make.  oscar was a dickless coward's move.  A losing program's move.  Who's in the middle?  I can't imagine you were for Gottlieb, that's a Frank move.  If not Frank then, then who?  If not oscar now, then who? 
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Re: Quit It
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2013, 10:03:11 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2013, 10:04:05 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2013, 10:05:58 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

we all could

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2013, 10:09:47 PM »
I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
I think this yoman guy is on to something....

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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2013, 10:11:15 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

I'm gonna go get the papers,
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Re: Quit It
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2013, 10:11:48 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

get the papers.
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Re: Quit It
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2013, 03:37:08 AM »
Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback?  I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.

I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB.  Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it.  So, we have learned that so far.  Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.

So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole.  We will get better; I have no doubt.  But the solution might not involve SAMs.  It might mean we air it out with Waters.

I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too.  I can't figure it out.  But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt.  I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys.  Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon).  No reason to turn on Snyder.

Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.

The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2013, 07:17:51 AM »
Steffy seems good for this blog

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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2013, 07:24:13 AM »
I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
"I'm not a racist, but...."

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2013, 08:10:45 AM »

Steffy08 just you assholes.

Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:

Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!"  teet suckers you got on here.  GMAFB.


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Re: Quit It
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2013, 08:19:35 AM »

Steffy08 just you assholes.

Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:

Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!"  teet suckers you got on here.  GMAFB.

I never say "tuck". I think it's stupid. Also your face is.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2013, 08:33:42 AM »
Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback?  I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.

I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB.  Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it.  So, we have learned that so far.  Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.

So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole.  We will get better; I have no doubt.  But the solution might not involve SAMs.  It might mean we air it out with Waters.

I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too.  I can't figure it out.  But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt.  I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys.  Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon).  No reason to turn on Snyder.

Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.

The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.

I wouldn't say that is the only time K-State should run a pass-first offense, but it's definitely the only time LHC Bill Snyder should run a pass-first offense, and even then, if he has another QB like Bishop/Roberson/Sams, I want the running QB in the game.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2013, 08:48:52 AM »
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Re: Quit It
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2013, 08:53:05 AM »
I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:

It's me

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2013, 08:55:32 AM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2013, 09:06:43 AM »

Steffy08 just you assholes.

Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:

Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!"  teet suckers you got on here.  GMAFB.

I never say "tuck". I think it's stupid. Also your face is.

Really?  I had always thought you started the whole "Tuck talking point" bullshit.  Welp sorry about that.

But as for my stupid face,  your mother.


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Re: Quit It
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2013, 02:01:19 PM »
Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback?  I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks.  Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.

I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB.  Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it.  So, we have learned that so far.  Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.

So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole.  We will get better; I have no doubt.  But the solution might not involve SAMs.  It might mean we air it out with Waters.

I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too.  I can't figure it out.  But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt.  I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys.  Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon).  No reason to turn on Snyder.

Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.

The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.

No, we aren't arguing the same point.

1.  I am saying that even if Snyder hasn't figured this out yet, and even if he doesn't the entire season, it wouldn't be grounds to run him out.  That is my primary point.

2.  I agree that Snyder works best with a running QB.  But, that depends on the quality of the running QB we have, and the quality of the other options you have.  You say that we should use a running QB unless we have a first-round NFL draft pick playing quarterback; well, what if our running QB option was you, or me?  Point being, you have to compare your options and find the best one.  Sams might not be it.  I hope he is, but you/I don't know that.  The people who have the most information have thus far concluded that Waters gives us the best chance to win.

Do I wish that Sams had thrown more to this point?  Yes.  But, part of that is simply for my own purposes.  Would it make you feel that much better if you found out that Sams can't make good decisions in the passing game?  Yes.  Is it worth us losing a winnable game just so you feel better?  No.

This stuff will all work out.  Until then, it is stupid to be overly critical of the staff when you have so little information to go on.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2013, 02:06:14 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success.  Hey, I agree with everybody:  Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire.  That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship.  If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him.  Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward.  But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.

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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2013, 02:09:18 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success.  Hey, I agree with everybody:  Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire.  That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship.  If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him.  Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward.  But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.

he won't continue to get those types of results.

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Re: Quit It
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2013, 02:11:00 PM »
I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.

This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success.  Hey, I agree with everybody:  Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire.  That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship.  If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him.  Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward.  But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.

he won't continue to get those types of results.

Which is why you should be careful going forward.  As a fan, be careful.  Going forward.  With oscar given his track record. 
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