Waters

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Would need someone to confirm,  but i would guess Waters averages more YPP and PPP than Klein.  FWIW

[michigancat]

Would need someone to confirm,  but i would guess Waters averages more YPP and PPP than Klein.  FWIW

You're pretty much correct. (not sure how team YPP or PPP works out.)

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jake-waters-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/collin-klein-1.html

[catzacker]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title. 

[420seriouscat69]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

Klein really lucked into those TD's tho. He really needed our receivers to bail him out for his awful throws. Phew!

[catzacker]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

Klein really lucked into those TD's tho. He really needed our receivers to bail him out for his awful throws. Phew!

Klein has more rushing TD's than Waters has total TD's.  Like, 13 more.

[420seriouscat69]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

Klein really lucked into those TD's tho. He really needed our receivers to bail him out for his awful throws. Phew!

Klein has more rushing TD's than Waters has total TD's.  Like, 13 more.

Thank god his line bailed him out and carried him into the endzone. I mean, he was just awful and incompetent when others weren't bailing him out. 

[OK_Cat]

Fanning doesn't handle criticism of college kids very well. Very weird/creepy.

[420seriouscat69]

Fanning doesn't handle criticism of college kids very well. Very weird/creepy.

That's what you take from this? I don't handle dumbassery very well from dumbasses. I mean, there's a lot of ppl on this board, butthurt over Jake Waters cause he beat out their boy. Move the eff on and get behind the quarterback. Zacker's gonna zacker and fanning's going to fanning tho.

[catzacker]

Fanning doesn't handle criticism of college kids very well. Very weird/creepy.

It is really not even criticism.  It's the idea that if you prefer or believe player A is better than player B that doesn't mean you are saying player B is crap.  And the ide that at the end of any comment about waters there is this ghost "and sams is better". 

[420seriouscat69]

Also, how is it creepy when you stick up for a player you like? I mean, how did ok cat get there? 

[pissclams]

the "receivers bailing out waters" meme is incredibly creative, i'll give you that #creative #synergy

[420seriouscat69]

I'm still fueled up with adrenaline from this week. Maybe I do get a little protective over waters, but I just don't know how you come away from Saturday's game and be like "I'm going to bump the Waters thread, cause he sucks". 

[Panjandrum]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

While I don't disagree with the overall comment, Waters' TD numbers would look way better right now if we weren't handing the ball to Jones in the Wildcat almost every time we get inside the five.

That's where Klein cleaned up. 

[pissclams]

no crap klein killed it within the 5 and waters goes to jones wtf

[star seed 7]

no crap klein killed it within the 5 and waters goes to jones wtf

Lol

[Emo EMAW]

If the coaching staff though Waters and our WR corps would be more efficient in the red zone then they wouldn't run the wildcat so much.  Maybe his pedestrian throwing helped his rushing numbers.  Klein still made all those plays, though.

[catzacker]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

While I don't disagree with the overall comment, Waters' TD numbers would look way better right now if we weren't handing the ball to Jones in the Wildcat almost every time we get inside the five.

That's where Klein cleaned up.

To put what you said another way, if Will Spradling only had Lebron's ability, KSU basketball would have been better.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

While I don't disagree with the overall comment, Waters' TD numbers would look way better right now if we weren't handing the ball to Jones in the Wildcat almost every time we get inside the five.

That's where Klein cleaned up.

To put what you said another way, if Will Spradling only had Lebron's ability, KSU basketball would have been better.

Exactly.

[MakeItRain]

All Jake needs is 42 more TD's this year and 3 more Int's to match CK's JR and SR yr production.  And then also lead his team to a big 12 title.

While I don't disagree with the overall comment, Waters' TD numbers would look way better right now if we weren't handing the ball to Jones in the Wildcat almost every time we get inside the five.

That's where Klein cleaned up.

Pretty sure Jake Beasley has more TDs inside the five than Jones.

[bucket]

You guys act as though good time charlie hasn't been good out of the wildcat 

[Skipper44]

You guys act as though good time charlie hasn't been good out of the wildcat 

the amount of wildcat we run in the redzone shows the limitations of this roster.  I know Bill 2.0 has done it some every season (although I can't think of any RZ snaps with CK) but I take it as a lack of confidence in Waters.

[kso_FAN]

You guys act as though good time charlie hasn't been good out of the wildcat 

the amount of wildcat we run in the redzone shows the limitations of this roster.  I know Bill 2.0 has done it some every season (although I can't think of any RZ snaps with CK) but I take it as a lack of confidence in Waters.

a) It has worked at a high rate of success.
b) We learned vs ISU that running your smaller QB at the goal line could be a dangerous idea. I don't think its a lack of confidence, its realizing we have a smaller QB that we don't want beat up by big hits.

This "limitation of the roster" rationale might have some merit, but if we bring the wildcat with Jones inside the 10 and it scores why would we complain about this?

[Frankenklein]

You guys act as though good time charlie hasn't been good out of the wildcat 

the amount of wildcat we run in the redzone shows the limitations of this roster.  I know Bill 2.0 has done it some every season (although I can't think of any RZ snaps with CK) but I take it as a lack of confidence in Waters.

a) It has worked at a high rate of success.
b) We learned vs ISU that running your smaller QB at the goal line could be a dangerous idea. I don't think its a lack of confidence, its realizing we have a smaller QB that we don't want beat up by big hits.

This "limitation of the roster" rationale might have some merit, but if we bring the wildcat with Jones inside the 10 and it scores why would we complain about this?

Because Sams plays for Mcneese State 

[420seriouscat69]

Sams was just as fragile tho.

[Canary]

If we don't have rough ridin' Tom Brady back there slinging the rock complemented by the 1985 Bear's defense, then our team is complete dog crap according to these losers. There's no point in arguing with them because they are dumb as eff.

Yes.