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Re: Top 5 Football Jobs
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2013, 10:14:11 AM »
this is more of a personal list.

1. Texas (money, living in Austin, also money)
2. Miami (beach)
3. UCLA (more elite version of USC)
4. Oregon (because Phil)
5. Colorado (mountains)

Yeah.  I'd pick different places and for different personal reasons, but the ranking of jobs thing always confuses me.  Obviously there's tiers of jobs/programs/whatever, but there's a crazy amount of factors that are going to make individuals pick different schools within the tiers or even in a different tier in a unique circumstance.

If I was an elite coach, I might pick K-State and force Currie out after whippin' ass at football.

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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2013, 10:15:19 AM »
The main problem with the Alabama job is you have to live in Alabama.

also if you don't whip ass for one season you get fired. HE'S NOT GETTIN' THE JOB DONE PAWWWL!

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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2013, 10:17:07 AM »
this is more of a personal list.

1. Texas (money, living in Austin, also money)
2. Miami (beach)
3. UCLA (more elite version of USC)
4. Oregon (because Phil)
5. Colorado (mountains)

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2013, 10:18:20 AM »
The main problem with the Alabama job is you have to live in Alabama.

also if you don't whip ass for one season you get fired. HE'S NOT GETTIN' THE JOB DONE PAWWWL!

Winners don't care about this, actually winners thrive off of this crap. Losers consider coaching failure and the repercussions.

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« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2013, 10:19:19 AM »
Yeah a black non-midwesterner might want to be in BFracistE Alabama rather than horribly caucasian mountainous wonderland known as Boulder

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« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2013, 10:20:05 AM »
this is more of a personal list.

1. Texas (money, living in Austin, also money)
2. Miami (beach)
3. UCLA (more elite version of USC)
4. Oregon (because Phil)
5. Colorado (mountains)

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

Or just list where you (Iowan) would want to coach.  And everyone else can list where they want to coach.

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« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2013, 10:20:36 AM »
The main problem with the Alabama job is you have to live in Alabama.

also if you don't whip ass for one season you get fired. HE'S NOT GETTIN' THE JOB DONE PAWWWL!

Winners don't care about this, actually winners thrive off of this crap.

Winners are dumbasses then.

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« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2013, 10:22:44 AM »
The main problem with the Alabama job is you have to live in Alabama.

also if you don't whip ass for one season you get fired. HE'S NOT GETTIN' THE JOB DONE PAWWWL!

Winners don't care about this, actually winners thrive off of this crap.

Winners are dumbasses then.

You make job/career decisions based on failure? I'm sure you don't.

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« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2013, 10:24:28 AM »
this is more of a personal list.

1. Texas (money, living in Austin, also money)
2. Miami (beach)
3. UCLA (more elite version of USC)
4. Oregon (because Phil)
5. Colorado (mountains)

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

Or just list where you (Iowan) would want to coach.  And everyone else can list where they want to coach.

I was legitimately confused with the responses of the thread until I realized what the responses actually were, I'm good now.

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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2013, 10:31:59 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

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« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2013, 10:33:10 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

They got exactly who they wanted, there was no search.

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« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2013, 10:41:34 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.


They got who they wanted.  Oregon wanted to keep Chip Kelly's system in place and run the same type of offense.  Their new coach is picking right up where Kelly left off, and they're looking like a national title contender again.

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« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2013, 10:45:30 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

They got exactly who they wanted, there was no search.

Right. Because Helfrich was the best solution for the 2013 and probably 2014 teams. Was he the best long term solution? Who knows...

But if Oregon were to call up someone like Brady Hoch, Urban Meyer, or Kevin Sumlin, what would have happened? Highly doubt any of those guys are leaving their current job for Eugene. I'm not convinced they could even steal away someone like Steve Sarkisian from UW...

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Re: Top 5 Football Jobs
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2013, 10:46:11 AM »
Texas
Oregon
Ohio State
Michigan
Oklahoma

lol at putting an SEC school on your list. dumbasses.
So winning MNC's doesn't equate to being a good coaching job?  Is that because of the expectations of those coaches to be able to win MNC's?  I'm curious, and maybe even a dumbass, because SEC schools really support their football program/coach.

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Re: Top 5 Football Jobs
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2013, 10:46:42 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

They got exactly who they wanted, there was no search.

Right. Because Helfrich was the best solution for the 2013 and probably 2014 teams. Was he the best long term solution? Who knows...

But if Oregon were to call up someone like Brady Hoch, Urban Meyer, or Kevin Sumlin, what would have happened? Highly doubt any of those guys are leaving their current job for Eugene. I'm not convinced they could even steal away someone like Steve Sarkisian from UW...

if they called kevin sumlin he would walk away from aTm mid season and do the crotch grab/bird flip combo on the tarmac.

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Re: Top 5 Football Jobs
« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2013, 10:47:45 AM »
Oregon must be elite for Squawstin "Quackstin" Beak to leave his beloved squawks.  Top 5 beat writer job?

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« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2013, 10:53:22 AM »
Oregon will never be a top 5 job because of their location. I don't think they even belong in the top 10.

I noticed everyone picking Ohio State over Michigan and Notre Dame. IMO they are all basically equal.


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« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2013, 10:59:45 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.


They got who they wanted.  Oregon wanted to keep Chip Kelly's system in place and run the same type of offense.  Their new coach is picking right up where Kelly left off, and they're looking like a national title contender again.
Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

Texas right now will be the best Job opening in the last 25 years and USC is not far behind. Expectations for those programs in the near future are way down. Alabama is also a crap job, you don't want to follow Sabin.

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« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2013, 11:02:23 AM »

if they called kevin sumlin he would walk away from aTm mid season and do the crotch grab/bird flip combo on the tarmac.

 :lol:

Sumlin makes $3m per year... Helfrich makes just over half of that. Maybe Oregon only hired MH because he was cheap?  :dunno:

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« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2013, 11:03:26 AM »

Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

This reminds me of another school.  And the school I am referring to is my favorite school:  ksu.

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« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM »
I wouldn't have put USC in the Top 5 a couple of years ago, but since they built the McKay Center they are certainly Top 5 worthy.

UCLA doesn't even have full length practice fields.   They recruit and prosper just on name and location (I guess on that note, maybe they are Top 5 worthy).  It's scary to think what they might do if they ever emulate the McKay Center (but the old Pac guard is a lot like the old Big 10 guard, slow on the facilities uptake until very recently.   Michigan's player facilities blew until the last few years, they couldn't even get the whole team into their old dressing room).

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« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2013, 11:07:49 AM »

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.


They got who they wanted.  Oregon wanted to keep Chip Kelly's system in place and run the same type of offense.  Their new coach is picking right up where Kelly left off, and they're looking like a national title contender again.
Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

Texas right now will be the best Job opening in the last 25 years and USC is not far behind. Expectations for those programs in the near future are way down. Alabama is also a crap job, you don't want to follow Sabin.

The fact that they were able to hire Saban away from the NFL should tell you it is not a crap job.

And I believe Bama fans are truly the craziest and most passionate in the country. Even when Auburn won the national title, you'd see more Bama gear 4 hours from Tuscaloosa than you would anywhere in Austin. They are absolutely insane.

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« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2013, 11:12:46 AM »

Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

This reminds me of another school.  And the school I am referring to is my favorite school:  ksu.

Chip was at Oregon for all of 2 seasons before becoming the HC... He was brought in as a HCIW.

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« Reply #73 on: September 18, 2013, 11:14:53 AM »

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.
What would Tuscaloosa have that Austin doesn't? 

I think I see your point with the typical college town outside of the southeastern US but not a big city like Austin.

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« Reply #74 on: September 18, 2013, 11:17:17 AM »
What Oregon has done the last the last 7 seasons isn't much different than K-State's 7 year run from 97-03...