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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2013, 11:54:33 PM »
Have any of you listing Texas #1 actually ever lived out of the Big 12 footprint? We had this discussion last week

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28931.msg909505#msg909505

Did you get that information from the Crimson Tide Network?

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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2013, 11:57:07 PM »
Have any of you listing Texas #1 actually ever lived out of the Big 12 footprint? We had this discussion last week

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28931.msg909505#msg909505

Did you get that information from the Crimson Tide Network?

A good coach at Texas would have their first picks out of the state and their first picks out of almost any other state. Alabama, with a coach that hasn't won 3 out of 4 NCs would not recruit like Saban is recruiting.

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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2013, 12:00:49 AM »
1. Texas
2. Notre Dame
3. USC
4. tOSU
5. Bama/LSU

LSU has basically no in-state competition for recruits in a state that has incredible HS football.

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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2013, 12:32:46 AM »
Michigan over USC because I think Michigan has more recruiting clout over more population than USC. USC is the premiere program in the L.A area, but Michigan is #1 or 2 in terms of prestige with recruits about anywhere in the upper Midwest and part of the east coast. Also west coast bias.

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2013, 01:15:17 AM »
Have any of you listing Texas #1 actually ever lived out of the Big 12 footprint? We had this discussion last week

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28931.msg909505#msg909505

Did you get that information from the Crimson Tide Network?

A good coach at Texas would have their first picks out of the state and their first picks out of almost any other state. Alabama, with a coach that hasn't won 3 out of 4 NCs would not recruit like Saban is recruiting.

Man this just isn't true and there is no historical basis for it, like none. Texas is the choice for the amazingly rich Texas high school football factory but UT doesn't have that kind of clout outside of UT and New Mexico. They routinely lose kids in neighboring states to OU and LSU. Of all the greatest players in the history of their program, players who won a national award, only one is from outside of the state of Texas, Ricky Williams. Even their greatest coach, Darryl Royal, was from Hollis, OK, a small town on the red river.

I looked around the web for top college program rankings and UT rarely appears in the top 5. ESPN did one in 2009 & they had UT at 7 where the hell would they be now?

Texas historically has always been seen as a regional power only and they only have themselves and the SWC to blame. They didn't leave the state to play games, even the bowl game they sought the most was in Texas. These other programs like ND, USC, Michigan, and Alabama have spent decades being national programs, UT wasn't that until Mack Brown and by many respects including recruiting they still aren't.

I have no idea why so many on this website view UT as this nationally revered behemoth of a program but the west coast, upper midwest, and the southeast don't view them they same way they are viewed in the high plains. Yes they have a ton of ESPN's money, so?


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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2013, 01:21:55 AM »
If ESPN didn't put Texas in their top 7, why do they talk about them just as much as any other program in the country? Texas doesn't need to recruit outside of Texas very often if ever, so I don't know why you're basing your claim on that. And their undergrad times the salary of some of their alumni times the amount of money people who graduated from Texas are willing to spend on football is just insane, has to be top 3 in the country (if there's a serviceable coach there). I can see you arguing them out of #1, but there's no way in hell you'd be able to argue them out of the top 3.

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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2013, 01:45:28 AM »
If ESPN didn't put Texas in their top 7, why do they talk about them just as much as any other program in the country? Texas doesn't need to recruit outside of Texas very often if ever, so I don't know why you're basing your claim on that.

Stevesie, you know the answer to that first question. ESPN has financial incentive to talk about the horns a lot. That being said I watch CFB shows on ESPNU everyday and they certainly don't beat anyone over the head with UT coverage.

I'm basing my claim that Texas isn't a national recruiting power because they have never been one, ever. You claimed they could get their first pick of players from almost any state. This is a fairy tale, it has never happened.  They don't beat Florida schools for players, they don't beat Alabama for players, they don't beat California schools, they don't beat ND andBig 10 schools. They do amazing in Texas though. I don't want to talk about them missing on Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson and mis-evaluating Robert Griffin.

Look at this
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3053

A couple of things I'd like to point out. People who continually discount the recruiting base that Alabama should realize that half of the top 20 are from the state of Alabama or a border state. How many of the top 20 are from Alabama, how many from Texas? I'd also like you to take notice of the players from Texas on this list now look at where they went.

Texas isn't a top 3 program and I'm not sure they ever have been, don't believe me check the lists all over the internet.

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Re: Top 5 Football Jobs
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2013, 08:29:10 AM »
Anyone that has Bama as #2 isn't thinking straight.  They're #3 or lower.

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2013, 08:37:56 AM »
Having to live in Alabama might kind of suck, tho.

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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2013, 08:40:33 AM »
Having to live in Alabama might kind of suck, tho.

Exactly why it's not #2.

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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2013, 08:52:55 AM »
1. Texas
2. ND
3. Ohio St
4. USC
5. Bama

It's really difficult to rank these though. You could throw in programs like Mich, LSU, OU, UGA, or the Florida schools pretty easily. It makes more sense to put schools in tiers, because would someone ever leave Georgia to go coach at Alabama? Probably not... It's too much of a lateral move.

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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2013, 08:58:21 AM »
Iowa State is number 1 if you want a job that you do just kinda ok and never lose fan support or get fired.

no coach in the history of their program has ever risen as high as "kinda ok".

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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2013, 09:05:30 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »
I would love to be the coach of the Colorado Buffaloes

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2013, 09:36:21 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.

Oregon isn't even in the top 10. They are like SMU without the national championships to show for it.

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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2013, 09:39:13 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.

Oregon isn't even in the top 10. They are like SMU without the national championships to show for it.

:dubious:
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2013, 09:42:00 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.

Oregon isn't even in the top 10. They are like SMU without the national championships to show for it.

:dubious:

If Oregon is such a great job then why have their last two HC hires been career assistants and not an experienced HC from another school?

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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2013, 09:48:24 AM »
Texas is the only program of a state that used to be its own country.

1.  Notre Dame
2.  Ohio State
3.  Florida
4.  Texas
5.  Michigan

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2013, 09:50:23 AM »
Texas
Oregon
Ohio State
Michigan
Oklahoma

lol at putting an SEC school on your list. dumbasses.

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2013, 09:55:06 AM »
this is more of a personal list.

1. Texas (money, living in Austin, also money)
2. Miami (beach)
3. UCLA (more elite version of USC)
4. Oregon (because Phil)
5. Colorado (mountains)

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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2013, 10:07:35 AM »
no particular order

Notre Dame
Texas
USC
tOhio State
Alabama
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2013, 10:09:05 AM »
First 5
Texas
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio St.
Alabama


Second 5
USC
OU
Florida
LSU
Oregon
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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2013, 10:09:34 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.

Oregon isn't even in the top 10. They are like SMU without the national championships to show for it.

:dubious:

If Oregon is such a great job then why have their last two HC hires been career assistants and not an experienced HC from another school?

Pretty much unlimited resources and fantastic facilities, nice part of the country, and they are in the PAC-12/16/whatever.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2013, 10:11:26 AM »
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Oregon

I don't disagree with this.

Oregon isn't even in the top 10. They are like SMU without the national championships to show for it.

:dubious:

If Oregon is such a great job then why have their last two HC hires been career assistants and not an experienced HC from another school?

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2013, 10:13:58 AM »
The main problem with the Alabama job is you have to live in Alabama.