U.S.-NATO Missiles/Bombs on Syria within 15 to 25 days . . .

[OregonSmock]

Dax still doesn't understand that without a credible military threat, there would have never been a diplomatic resolution.  Haters gon' hate.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Edna, if you agree Obama Forrest gumped his way through this (I think you do, your posts are very hard to comprehend) then I agree with you.

[ednksu]

Edna, if you agree Obama Forrest gumped his way through this (I think you do, your posts are very hard to comprehend) then I agree with you.

Dude if you say Obama gumped this, how can you legitimately give any credit to Russia's foreign policy team for the way the handle it?  Everything about this 'settlement' has worked against Russia's long term narrative.

[ednksu]

also the UN report is being leaked/coming out that 350 ltrs of Sarin were used via surface to surface missiles (labeled with coptic lettering).  So pretty much 100% regime use.

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax still doesn't understand that without a credible military threat, there would have never been a diplomatic resolution.  Haters gon' hate.

How can you have a diplomatic "resolution" when you don't even try to have one?  In addition, so far there's been no resolution of the actual issue at hand.

[sonofdaxjones]

also the UN report is being leaked/coming out that 350 ltrs of Sarin were used via surface to surface missiles (labeled with coptic lettering).  So pretty much 100% regime use.

You do understand how easy it would be to stage that for UN inspectors don't you?  No, you probably don't.

[OregonSmock]

Still waiting for those "U.S.-NATO missiles/bombs" to drop on Syria.  Any day now, right, 'Pad? 


 

[sonofdaxjones]

Still waiting for those "U.S.-NATO missiles/bombs" to drop on Syria.  Any day now, right, 'Pad? 


 

What's even more    is that you keep calling the situation "resolved".

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Edna, if you agree Obama Forrest gumped his way through this (I think you do, your posts are very hard to comprehend) then I agree with you.

Dude if you say Obama gumped this, how can you legitimately give any credit to Russia's foreign policy team for the way the handle it?  Everything about this 'settlement' has worked against Russia's long term narrative.

This is where you lose me.  Are we to believe Russia is shooting straight on this one?  You seem to believe chemical weapons were actually used, what about all that?  Its like you redefined the objective to fit your narrative.

[sonofdaxjones]

The U.S. and Russia can't even agree on where the Chemical weapons are, and who actually controls the various stockpiles.

But it's all RESOLVED people!!

Lebanese media sources are claiming some have already been moved (back) to Iraq.

[OregonSmock]

Still waiting for those "U.S.-NATO missiles/bombs" to drop on Syria.  Any day now, right, 'Pad? 


 

What's even more    is that you keep calling the situation "resolved".

The chemical weapons situation is pretty much resolved, and US military intervention is looking less and less likely.  In typical anti-Obama fashion, though, you remain outraged at any and everything. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Still waiting for those "U.S.-NATO missiles/bombs" to drop on Syria.  Any day now, right, 'Pad? 


 

What's even more    is that you keep calling the situation "resolved".

The chemical weapons situation is pretty much resolved, and US military intervention is looking less and less likely.  In typical anti-Obama fashion, though, you remain outraged at any and everything.

It's pretty much resolved people!!  But nothing has actually happened yet!!

So resolved that the two parties engaged in the resolution can't even agree on what's where and who has what, let alone how they're going to get it and when exactly it's going to happen.   But it's resolved!!

The war is over!!  Pay no mind to the people who are still dying, the hundreds of thousands of refugees and the flow of weapons from the United States and U.S. proxies to the "freedom fighters" rife with Islamic Extremists!!

[OregonSmock]

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Beems Chamberlain taps out again.

Sad

[ednksu]

Edna, if you agree Obama Forrest gumped his way through this (I think you do, your posts are very hard to comprehend) then I agree with you.

Dude if you say Obama gumped this, how can you legitimately give any credit to Russia's foreign policy team for the way the handle it?  Everything about this 'settlement' has worked against Russia's long term narrative.

This is where you lose me.  Are we to believe Russia is shooting straight on this one?  You seem to believe chemical weapons were actually used, what about all that?  Its like you redefined the objective to fit your narrative.

No report or solid intelligence has said WMDs were not used.  Everyone at this point agrees they were.  Now the issue is who used them.  The fact is these were not home made munitions, they were not low tech delivery vehicles, and only one side is rocking the coptic instruction sheets. 

And I've never attempted to redefine objectives.  I believe WMD use is a red line for the international community to act, just as it was in the 80s with Iran/Iraq or the 90s with Iraq/Krud, just as it has been for nearly 100 years.  I also believe we were in bed too long with Assad and we should have worked to support the secular forces in Syria long before the conflict grew large enough to attract the extremists.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Is agreed surrender of chemical weapons appropriate recource for crossing the "red line"?  Do we really think Russia is going to come through? Turkey blew up a Syrian coptor today, does this derail anything?

From where Assad is sitting, he just used chemical weapons without any consequence.  Whose objective does this accomplish?

BMW, List of things Obama resolved:
Debt Ceiling
National Deficit
Unemployment
Affordable healthcare
Gas Prices
Syrian Use of Chemical Weapons
Morsi
Etc. Etc.

His resolutions are disastrous

[ednksu]

In my world I'd love to see the regime surrender their weapons and Assad's bro, who is in charge of the chem unit, should be tried in ICC since there is no functioning impartial body in the nation which can give a fair trial.  I don't think we'll see Russia come through, which is why we need the UN to step up and add to the handful of cases where it has actually fulfilled their mandate to regulate international peace.  We've already seen the Russian foreign minister back off the deal blaming Kerry for 'not reading' it. 


The downing of the helicopter really doesn't change anything IMO.  They've had numerous run-ins with Turkey ranging from pot shots across the border to artillery exchanges. 



And we can start another thread about Obama's accomplishments because that is too deep to get into here, especially considering the radical right's only objective this term is to deny any part of the Obama agenda, and not to work for this country. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Funny what governments do to preserve themselves in the face of Superpower Hegemony.

The United States was and is prepared to blow up the entire world to "preserve" itself.

[sonofdaxjones]

On assertion for how the "rebels" couldn't have engaged in chemical attacks in Syria is that they don't know how to handle chemical weapons.

Welp

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/09/sources-defense-contractors-training-syrian-rebels-in-chemical-weapons/

[sonofdaxjones]

Another assertion that the "rebels" couldn't have been engaged in chemical attacks in Syria is that the so called weapons had Russian markings on them and Russia is not a supplier of weapons to the Rebels.

The simple fact is, the CIA (and others) are arming the "Rebels" with all matter of Russian styled weapons, and what's lost in the shuffle is the huge influx of outsiders (an invasion) from places like Libya and specifically from areas like Benghazi, where it was highly likely the CIA was operating an arms running campaign moving Russian (Yugoslavian) weapons confiscated from the Libyan Army weapons stockpiles to Syria (along with the 'rebels', of which strong AQ/Radical Islamist exist).

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

[steve dave]

[sonofdaxjones]

That was quite funny, I enjoyed that.

But has Reuben ever done any of his stuff that was critical of Obama?  At least Tom Tomorrow could roll out some scathing ones on the left from time to time.

[p1k3]

That was quite funny, I enjoyed that.

But has Reuben ever done any of his stuff that was critical of Obama?  At least Tom Tomorrow could roll out some scathing ones on the left from time to time.

I have a feeling Ruben is a radical leftist.

[steve dave]

That was quite funny, I enjoyed that.

But has Reuben ever done any of his stuff that was critical of Obama?  At least Tom Tomorrow could roll out some scathing ones on the left from time to time.

yes, I've posted many of them