The KU Rayhawks are NOT going through a rough patch. They make Raytown, Missouri proud!

[Dugout DickStone]

Every ku fan I know would kill a state senator to get someone as successful as Ron in Lawrence.

[wabash909]

Seriously, tho! Tim  & Ben are the weirdest mother fuckers on this board. Both squawks! What is in the water in Lawrence?

In all fairness, Beems and timhawk are hurting.

Being the Futility U of the 21st Century has cut them both deep and lashing out on goEMAW is their really only coping mechanism.

[KITNfury]

I also understand Ron was also a bit of a playa if IIRC.

[timhawk]

Beems, you surely have to understand that comparing ancient football history with the present college football landscape is pretty disingenuous...right? I mean, K-State gave less than zero shits about football until Wefald got into town. I'm pretty sure we were purposefully sabotaging our football program so that basketball would remain the number one game in town. As compared to KU right now, you guys are trying as hard as you rough ridin' can to be relevant, and you've still worn a giant clown suit for the last three years (actually outside of a handful of seasons, the same could be said for the last 25 years). Since K-State has started committing resources to football we've been nationally relevant and have knocked your dicks in the dirt on the reg. It's rough ridin' impossible to be as bad as you guys are in the current football climate, but goddammit you did it. Congratulations, you've turned losing into a rough ridin' art form. Cheers rough rider 

 

03:22:20 AM

5:18 a.m.

[Dugout DickStone]

I also understand Ron was also a bit of a playa if IIRC.

Interesting, if true

[Brock Landers]

Beems, you surely have to understand that comparing ancient football history with the present college football landscape is pretty disingenuous...right? I mean, K-State gave less than zero shits about football until Wefald got into town. I'm pretty sure we were purposefully sabotaging our football program so that basketball would remain the number one game in town. As compared to KU right now, you guys are trying as hard as you rough ridin' can to be relevant, and you've still worn a giant clown suit for the last three years (actually outside of a handful of seasons, the same could be said for the last 25 years). Since K-State has started committing resources to football we've been nationally relevant and have knocked your dicks in the dirt on the reg. It's rough ridin' impossible to be as bad as you guys are in the current football climate, but goddammit you did it. Congratulations, you've turned losing into a rough ridin' art form. Cheers rough rider 

 

03:22:20 AM

5:18 a.m.

It's called getting up early to get a head start on having yet another successful day as a K State guy and generally whipping ass at life.  Maybe you should try it sometime.  Lots of dudes on here are up before 6.

[wabash909]

In all fairness, timhawk is probably supposed to start the concrete mixer pretty early.

[420seriouscat69]

In all fairness, timhawk is probably supposed to start the concrete mixer pretty early.

[GoodForAnother]

sleeplessness is a common sign of drug addiction

[SEK_EMAW]

With only 44 days and some change left in timhawk's goEMAW life, I don't fault him for trying to get an early start to his day.

[OregonSmock]

yeah at this point i don't understand how KU kids could talk bad about RP. 

it's pretty funny to hear KU kids say "well the hawks may be bad, but K-State will be really bad when OBz retires because hey just look at what Ron Prince did!"  Well Ron won more games in a single year than KU won during the 2010, 2011, and 2012 seasons combined.  Even during Prince's worst season, he still won 5 games.

Also, it's important to remember that Prince was, by all accounts, completely incompetent, but yet, he still bumbled his way into 5 wins at K-State. 

If anything, the Prince era should give confidence to K-Staters nervous about the Post Snyder days.  We can look East with relief and know that, even with Ron Prince, it will never be as bad as any one of the past 3 seasons the Jayhawks have suffered through.

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.  The Big 12 is better from top to bottom now.  If your point is that the Ron Prince hire was better than the Turner Gill hire, I'd agree, but let's face it, both pretty much sucked.  Prince was a combined 0-9 against KU, MU, and NU.  That being said, Prince is still probably the 2nd-best coach in K-State football history, which is hilarious in and of itself. 

[420seriouscat69]

This is the worst year in Big 12 history, EVER! Stop trying to sugar coat crap, beems.

[GoodForAnother]

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.

I agree, there were no quality teams in the north during Prince's time at KSU

[Dugout DickStone]

yeah at this point i don't understand how KU kids could talk bad about RP. 

it's pretty funny to hear KU kids say "well the hawks may be bad, but K-State will be really bad when OBz retires because hey just look at what Ron Prince did!"  Well Ron won more games in a single year than KU won during the 2010, 2011, and 2012 seasons combined.  Even during Prince's worst season, he still won 5 games.

Also, it's important to remember that Prince was, by all accounts, completely incompetent, but yet, he still bumbled his way into 5 wins at K-State. 

If anything, the Prince era should give confidence to K-Staters nervous about the Post Snyder days.  We can look East with relief and know that, even with Ron Prince, it will never be as bad as any one of the past 3 seasons the Jayhawks have suffered through.

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.  The Big 12 is better from top to bottom now.  If your point is that the Ron Prince hire was better than the Turner Gill hire, I'd agree, but let's face it, both pretty much sucked.  Prince was a combined 0-9 against KU, MU, and NU.  That being said, Prince is still probably the 2nd-best coach in K-State football history, which is hilarious in and of itself.

 Mangino had that same luxury which produced the Fluke of 08

[mocat]

did you guys know that the Chiefs and KU have something hilarious in common?

KU's last Big 12 opponent defeated: Colorado (not in the Big 12 anymore)
the Chiefs' last playoff opponent defeated: Houston Oilers (not a team anymore)

[DeoKat]

yeah at this point i don't understand how KU kids could talk bad about RP. 

it's pretty funny to hear KU kids say "well the hawks may be bad, but K-State will be really bad when OBz retires because hey just look at what Ron Prince did!"  Well Ron won more games in a single year than KU won during the 2010, 2011, and 2012 seasons combined.  Even during Prince's worst season, he still won 5 games.

Also, it's important to remember that Prince was, by all accounts, completely incompetent, but yet, he still bumbled his way into 5 wins at K-State. 

If anything, the Prince era should give confidence to K-Staters nervous about the Post Snyder days.  We can look East with relief and know that, even with Ron Prince, it will never be as bad as any one of the past 3 seasons the Jayhawks have suffered through.

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage. The Big 12 is better from top to bottom now.  If your point is that the Ron Prince hire was better than the Turner Gill hire, I'd agree, but let's face it, both pretty much sucked.  Prince was a combined 0-9 against KU, MU, and NU.  That being said, Prince is still probably the 2nd-best coach in K-State football history, which is hilarious in and of itself.

Nope, the bottom is pretty much at historically bad levels.

[SEK_EMAW]

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.

I agree, there were no quality teams in the north during Prince's time at KSU

Can't fault KU for racking up the North Division titles during that period though, right?

[WillieWatanabe]

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.

I agree, there were no quality teams in the north during Prince's time at KSU

[kst8cat]

yeah at this point i don't understand how KU kids could talk bad about RP. 

it's pretty funny to hear KU kids say "well the hawks may be bad, but K-State will be really bad when OBz retires because hey just look at what Ron Prince did!"  Well Ron won more games in a single year than KU won during the 2010, 2011, and 2012 seasons combined.  Even during Prince's worst season, he still won 5 games.

Also, it's important to remember that Prince was, by all accounts, completely incompetent, but yet, he still bumbled his way into 5 wins at K-State. 

If anything, the Prince era should give confidence to K-Staters nervous about the Post Snyder days.  We can look East with relief and know that, even with Ron Prince, it will never be as bad as any one of the past 3 seasons the Jayhawks have suffered through.

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.  The Big 12 is better from top to bottom now.  If your point is that the Ron Prince hire was better than the Turner Gill hire, I'd agree, but let's face it, both pretty much sucked.  Prince was a combined 0-9 against KU, MU, and NU.  That being said, Prince is still probably the 2nd-best coach in K-State football history, which is hilarious in and of itself.

You obviously aren't keeping up with this thread if you think Prince was better than Mike Ahearn.  And I thought all we have heard about last year and this year is how "down" the Big 12 is.  Now you are trying to say how "down" it was back when KU was decent?  Baylor was past the point of being absolute garbage like they were at the turn of the century.  In fact, I think Prince lost to Baylor once. 

[Trogdor]

Im starting to think that Tim posts at 2 or 3 in the morning so that he can have his moment of glory without somebody brutally gunning him down instantly

[OregonSmock]

KU made a horrible hire and is struggling to overcome it.  Last year, nine of ten Big 12 teams were bowl eligible.  This year, the traditional bottom dweller (Baylor) is probably the best team in the league.  Iowa State is tough.  K-State is tough.  TCU is tough.  It's just a really bad time to be rebuilding if you're in the Big 12 right now (at least when that rebuilding project is at a program like KU). 

[Trogdor]

KU made a horrible hire and is struggling to overcome it.  Last year, nine of ten Big 12 teams were bowl eligible.  This year, the traditional bottom dweller (Baylor) is probably the best team in the league.  Iowa State is tough.  K-State is tough.  TCU is tough.  It's just a really bad time to be rebuilding if you're in the Big 12 right now (at least when that rebuilding project is at a program like KU).

BONUS ROUND!

Choose your favorite:

Gill or Weis?

[OregonSmock]

yeah at this point i don't understand how KU kids could talk bad about RP. 

it's pretty funny to hear KU kids say "well the hawks may be bad, but K-State will be really bad when OBz retires because hey just look at what Ron Prince did!"  Well Ron won more games in a single year than KU won during the 2010, 2011, and 2012 seasons combined.  Even during Prince's worst season, he still won 5 games.

Also, it's important to remember that Prince was, by all accounts, completely incompetent, but yet, he still bumbled his way into 5 wins at K-State. 

If anything, the Prince era should give confidence to K-Staters nervous about the Post Snyder days.  We can look East with relief and know that, even with Ron Prince, it will never be as bad as any one of the past 3 seasons the Jayhawks have suffered through.

There is such a thing as context.  Ron Prince had the luxury of playing in the Big 12 North and matching up against Baylor and Iowa State when they were absolute garbage.  The Big 12 is better from top to bottom now.  If your point is that the Ron Prince hire was better than the Turner Gill hire, I'd agree, but let's face it, both pretty much sucked.  Prince was a combined 0-9 against KU, MU, and NU.  That being said, Prince is still probably the 2nd-best coach in K-State football history, which is hilarious in and of itself.

You obviously aren't keeping up with this thread if you think Prince was better than Mike Ahearn.  And I thought all we have heard about last year and this year is how "down" the Big 12 is.  Now you are trying to say how "down" it was back when KU was decent?  Baylor was past the point of being absolute garbage like they were at the turn of the century.  In fact, I think Prince lost to Baylor once.

I said the Big 12 is better from top to bottom now than it was back in the Ron Prince days.  If you think Baylor was better back then than they are now, I don't know what to tell you. 

[OregonSmock]

Also, may I ask what the end game is here?  Are you guys trying to bash KU until one of our fans commits suicide or something?  Just seems really weird to have a 69+ page thread filled with this much hate and vitriol for a program that has been struggling the past few years.  Is this thread somehow therapeutic for the 'taters who lived through the '08 Orange Bowl/national title days? 

[Spracne]

Also, may I ask what the end game is here?  Are you guys trying to bash KU until one of our fans commits suicide or something?   Just seems really weird to have a 69+ page thread filled with this much hate and vitriol for a program that has been struggling the past few years.  Is this thread somehow therapeutic for the 'taters who lived through the '08 Orange Bowl/national title days?

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