Rolling Stone Cover

[bubbles4ksu]

I think it's important that we dehumanize our enemies as much as possible, so that it's clear that they are nothing like us.

exactly this.

[OK_Cat]

that's a very naive outlook.  by all accounts, this kid was just like a lot of kids his age until he got caught up in some bad stuff. 

[michigancat]

I think it's important that we dehumanize our enemies as much as possible, so that it's clear that they are nothing like us.

exactly this.

I think he's joking though

[bubbles4ksu]

I think it's important that we dehumanize our enemies as much as possible, so that it's clear that they are nothing like us.

exactly this.

i don't actually feel this way. or at least i really, really don't want to feel this way. i want world peace very badly, but whenever i think about solving issues in the middle east i end up with a headache. then i go hitchens-mode and start talking about bombing places to glass.

guys, i don't want to see news coverage of people with no actual connection to jahar crying outside of the courtroom. that seems disrespectful to the people he hurt. i worry about complete dumbasses being emboldened by a stupid cover photo on a magazine that i kinda like. that's it.

[bubbles4ksu]

I think it's important that we dehumanize our enemies as much as possible, so that it's clear that they are nothing like us.

exactly this.

I think he's joking though

yes, we both were.

[Paul Moscow]

Anyone who actually thinks that the killer becomes more sympathetic or will perhaps inspire copy cat attacks because of a dreamy cover shot is clearly an idiot.

[bubbles4ksu]

Anyone who actually thinks that the killer becomes more sympathetic or will perhaps inspire copy cat attacks because of a dreamy cover shot is clearly an idiot.

check out some of the #freejahar stuff on tumblr and twitter. a degree of that support is based on his appearance. fully aware of the #freejahar movement, Rolling Stone put the most flattering pic they could find of this guy on their cover. it validates his supporters.

[felix rex]

If Rolling Stone was targeting #freejahar types, I take back anything nice I might have said about their marketing abilities.

[Paul Moscow]

Anyone who actually thinks that the killer becomes more sympathetic or will perhaps inspire copy cat attacks because of a dreamy cover shot is clearly an idiot.

check out some of the #freejahar stuff on tumblr and twitter. a degree of that support is based on his appearance. fully aware of the #freejahar movement, Rolling Stone put the most flattering pic they could find of this guy on their cover. it validates his supporters.

He has been a celebrity since the second his name was released. The establishment of a #freejahar "movement" (its laughable to call it a movement btw) occurred months before the article so to say that Rolling Stone is the only guilty party is giving a pass to all media coverage prior to the day it hit newsstands.

Plus, people becoming infatuated with killers, even unattractive ones (gasp), is nothing new in our society and has no demonstrated effect on the likelihood of repeat actions. Jesse James, Charlie Manson, Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, etc. Furthermore the .00000000001% of people who are fanboys aren't enough to move the needle on magazine sales and certainly aren't a substantial amount of people to alter your coverage for.

[bubbles4ksu]

If Rolling Stone was targeting #freejahar types, I take back anything nice I might have said about their marketing abilities.

i hope i don't sound like i think RS was targeting them.

[EMAWmeister]

No one is mad about the article, dumbasses.

[steve dave]

brown him up, slap a beard on him and print this mother rough rider

[EMAWmeister]

Three of the more terrifying pictures in the past year.  These photos were plastered everywhere, and no one complained.  Probably because they don't look like a rough ridin' Seventeen Magazine centerfold shot.

But nope, just make 'em browner. That's why people are mad.

[steve dave]

[Tobias]

easier to swallow?

[steve dave]

the article is about how he was a normal kid once with stuff going for him and how he turned into a shitty evil terrorist who will at least spend the rest of his life in prison. the front page of the magazine says as much. the same pic has been run on multiple front pages before today. the picture is the best representation of the article available. it actually does a very good job of representing it.

[Dugout DickStone]

Agreed.  The entire point is he wasn't a huge nut in a cave, or living on the fringes, or diagnosed schizo, or living in his psycho mom's basement.  He was a dude who partied, went to good schools, had a future that would include girls and money and turned into a killer.  He is an outlier who didn't look or act like an outlier.

[michigancat]

Agreed.  The entire point is he wasn't a huge nut in a cave, or living on the fringes, or diagnosed schizo, or living in his psycho mom's basement.  He was a dude who partied, went to good schools, had a future that would include girls and money and turned into a killer.  He is an outlier who didn't look or act like an outlier.

that makes some people feel icky. They just can't rationally process it, apparently.

[DQ12]

to be fair, i think that's a pretty hard thing to rationally process.  i'm a pretty regular guy, i'd say, and it's hard for me to rationally process.  in fact, i think it's pretty weird if it's easy for some one to rationally process something like that, but like i said, i think i'm just a pretty regular guy.

[kitten_mittons]

Anyone who says he "was a normal kid who got caught up in some bad stuff" is the worst kind of moron.  Committing terrorist attacks and killing innocent children is not getting "caught up in some bad stuff." Getting caught up in some bad stuff is like being in the same car with someone who gets pulled over and they have drugs in the car, or being I  high school and vandalizing someone's property because your friends thought it would be fun.  It's rough ridin' sick and demented to do what he did, and to downgrade it to something as simple as hanging out with the wrong crowd.  Everyone here has probably done something they regret s little bit because of peer pressure, but doing what he did was above and beyond.  You have to have hatred in your heart to be able to pull that off.

[SdK]

There are a lot of mindless idiots in this country. I don't think bubs or team bubs really has an issue with the cover. I think he really has an issue with society. I share that same grievance with society at large. Sex sells, people are generally soft, everyone is a victim, the public sees that he is attractive and may have had some personal strife, so they become sympathetic towards him. It's sad that this happens and I hate it. But for people like the g.E crowd, this cover isn't a big deal. It changes nothing. He is what he is, what he did, not what he looks like, or his childhood. There comes a day when our lives are our own. He came to a crossroads and he chose to go down a bad path. There was a moment, a choice, he chose wrongly, albeit probably slaying trim like a yeti all along the way.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Why anyone cares what's on this irrelevant magazine is beyond me.  The only people who read it are white guys that learned guitar after age 22, those weird music geeks that share terrible "Indy" music on Facebook, and people who collect records.

[SdK]

Why anyone cares what's on this irrelevant magazine is beyond me.  The only people who read it are white guys that learned guitar after age 22, those weird music geeks that share terrible "Indy" music on Facebook, and people who collect records.

And now all of us, you, and the nation, are talking about it. Mission accomplished.

[SdK]

two birds, one (rolling) stone

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

FWIW, this is the only forum Ive seen or heard this being talked about.