Kansas City things

[Emo EMAW]

The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.

[Phil Titola]

Those commies in Utah right? I mean we should vote on everything....Why don't I get to vote on every road resurface?

I honestly don't mind voting for the bonds for any kci changes....But look how easy those SLC guys have it...They can do whatever and voters get no say.

[Phil Titola]

The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.

I kind of thought that's what elections did. Dunno

[pissclams]

sly games the system, sets the TDD up and 350 voters approve the streetcar, Phil Titola: "VOTING IS GREAT!!"

sly can't game the system and the voters say no thanks to a billion dollar airport boondoggle, Phil Titola: "VOTING SUCKS!!"



seriously can't make this crap up, folks 

[Phil Titola]

TDD is the law clams....Minor details

[pissclams]

TDD is the law clams....Minor details

it is the law but it's a workaround.  the city continually voted the public transportation ideas down, except for clay chastain's- which the city subsequently and correctly threw in the trash.  so to skirt the city's voters, he decided to create the tdd.

russ johnson's "i know 50 people, I'll get a tdd vote" quote at city hall says it all

minor details

[pissclams]

phil and sly, "i wish we could create a tdd for the airport"      

damn you laws!  i hate you laws!   

enjoy

[star seed 7]

Can't wait for trump international Airport 

[Emo EMAW]

The public should have absolutely no say in how their money is spent.

I kind of thought that's what elections did. Dunno

Do you honestly believe a vote for a candidate is your endorsement of them to spend money how they see fit?

[star seed 7]

That is kind of what a representative form of government is Emo....

[Phil Titola]

phil and sly, "i wish we could create a tdd for the airport"      

damn you laws!  i hate you laws!   

enjoy

Already said I don't mind a vote for the issuance of airport bonds....I am interested why KCMO requires that vote and other cities don't...Is it a state law I wonder? I know the LaGuardia terminal didn't require a public vote. Neither did the SLC one noted earlier.

[pissclams]

I'd guess those cities have proven to have more responsible leadership and less corruption than ours.

Why do you think cities have to vote on new stadium funding? 

Is Phil's government one that says, "Hey I voted you into office and now you have free reign to go do and spend what you want?" or are you only concerned when you're agenda is hampered by the current functioning way of doing things?  A little bit too much power in the hands of the idiot people that the city government represents?

[Phil Titola]

Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

[Phil Titola]

Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

To answer my own question it looks like revenue bonds issued by quasi government entities like a transit authority or Port authority don't require public vote as it's not public debt. The bonds kci was going after were general bonds I believe which is still considered public debt. Wonder if they will look to change that up...It might take a public vote to move the airport under some quasi government authority.

Speaking of bonds...Are we voting for the 800M GO bond issue this April? I'm on the fence....Obviously we have bridges and roads that needs help but I was hoping for more sidewalk money.

[pissclams]

Just interested in the differences. Officials can make a lot o financial decisions without my input at the voting booth...Many I don't like.

To answer my own question it looks like revenue bonds issued by quasi government entities like a transit authority or Port authority don't require public vote as it's not public debt. The bonds kci was going after were general bonds I believe which is still considered public debt. Wonder if they will look to change that up...It might take a public vote to move the airport under some quasi government authority.

Speaking of bonds...Are we voting for the 800M GO bond issue this April? I'm on the fence....Obviously we have bridges and roads that needs help but I was hoping for more sidewalk money.

i'm not voting for it.  city hall told me that the earnings tax was going to cover that stuff.

the earnings tax needs to go away and the method by which we collect and spend our tax revenue needs to fall in line with the rest of the functioning world.  the current structure allows for too much fiscal mismanagement, finger pointing, and isn't transparent enough.

[Phil Titola]

Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?

[mocat]

i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

[Phil Titola]

i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

I've enjoyed it but not eaten there yet. Excited for their beer garden.

[KCFDcat]

i want to try brewery emperial, but gd it, did they not consult anybody on how to spell their fing name? it looks so gross

I've enjoyed it but not eaten there yet. Excited for their beer garden.

Food is really good.

I like the "misspelling" their space turned out really nice too.

[mocat]

is it supposed to remind people of Emporia, KS?

[star seed 7]

I don't know the misspelling but just by mocats posts it sounds terrible and trying to hard to be clever hur hur beer, pour, hur hur

[mocat]

I don't know the misspelling but just by mocats posts it sounds terrible and trying to hard to be clever hur hur beer, pour, hur hur

they misspelled imperial as "emperial" to make people think of emporia, ks is the only theory we've got going so far. i'm going to go ask their kroger brand kcfdcat what his angle was on that deal

[Phil Titola]

Imperial somehow still copyrighted but they wanted to harken back to KC brewery past?

[pissclams]

Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?

you're right, taxes are going to go up.  both property and sales.  as they should because they're artificially low right now.  the city gave away the tax revenue that it should be collecting and is in debt past its eyeballs and has subsidized its needs with the e-tax. 

[Phil Titola]

Property tax or sales tax would go up....Which do you want?

you're right, taxes are going to go up.  both property and sales.  as they should because they're artificially low right now.  the city gave away the tax revenue that it should be collecting and is in debt past its eyeballs and has subsidized its needs with the e-tax.

Point me to where the city is in debt past its eyeballs....It's bond issuance rating is aa2 right now which would indicate they have plenty of capacity for more debt....do you mean the backlog of infrastructure needs that jerks like funkhouser didnt have the cajones to address?

I don't have a lot of problems with the etax as it gets those who use our infrastructure every day to partially pay for it but given the negative connotation the etax brings, I'd be fine with finding other options.