Kansas City things

[8manpick]

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

not kansas citians (as i said earlier the MAX is maxed out).

and no i don't think it will. do you?

Well, I assume the stigma has to do with being in close proximity to poor and / or homeless people, for which the free streetcar would seem to be a magnet. I dunno

[DQ12]

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

not kansas citians (as i said earlier the MAX is maxed out).

and no i don't think it will. do you?

in my experience, trains have more shady people on them than busses.

[mocat]

in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew

[DQ12]

in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew

I think the streetcar will be great for the big 12 tournament and other huge downtown events fwiw.  it's the other ~300 days a year that I think the streetcar is silly.

[8manpick]

in kc, i think you'll be more inclined to rub shoulders with a college grad while on the streetcar (during the b12 tournament for example) than on the bus, dlew

Proactive KC residents should write their council reps to get the poors off the bus and onto 'Clams' street corner I guess

[Phil Titola]

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

Here is an example. Most everybody will ride the subway in NYC or the El in Chicago right? Tell those same people to take the bus in those cities and many times you'll get looks of horror.

In not saying everybody.... But for many that stigma exists.

[Dub]

This debate is really a microcosm of small towners vs big towners.

[8manpick]

Why do you think the free streetcar won't have the same stigma that Kansas Citians seem to have with buses?

Here is an example. Most everybody will ride the subway in NYC or the El in Chicago right? Tell those same people to take the bus in those cities and many times you'll get looks of horror.

In not saying everybody.... But for many that stigma exists.

I don't disagree, I just think that a free streetcar is more similar to a bus than a train

[kim carnes]

Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

[mocat]

Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

[Emo EMAW]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

[Dub]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

[Phil Titola]

Describe what you define as failure.

[mocat]

if what dlew described is the worst case, would take.

[Emo EMAW]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

[Dub]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

What were the Pro's they promised... don't live there anymore

[mocat]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

it's already failed in your mind obviously, so who do you blame?

[mocat]

is there even public transportation of any kind in johnson county? i guess i occasionally see "the JO" downtown

[CNS]

Joco needs an El running down the median of I 35

[Emo EMAW]

When this thing fails, what will people blame it on?

What's the criteria of pass vs fail?

If any of the pro's that were promised in the sale of the project to the public don't actually materialize.

it's already failed in your mind obviously, so who do you blame?

JoCo people.

[Dub]

I don't know why anyone would be against the streetcar.. it's basically the stepping stone to a lightrail system which is absolutely amazing.

[The Big Train]

Some people just can't handle change

[420seriouscat69]

Some people just can't handle change

Ppl can handle change, but if we're going to pay taxes for some street car that goes 10 ft, then we have the right to judge wtf they're doing. 

[pissclams]

Why did KC just randomly decide to build a 1 mile long street car?  Like, what is the point of that?

it's eventually going to the plaza, but the brookside residents were on the first vote and shut that down. so phase 1 is just from river market to crown center

lol no, the entire city has repeatedly voted down the streetcar when given the opportunity to.  I'd guess we've said no eight times or so.  this isn't just brookside saying no.
we don't need one and it's hilarious that that you guys support it in the way that you do

[mocat]

and yet here we are