Author Topic: Kansas City things (Read 1010052 times)

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3000 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:31:01 PM »

You said," none of that stuff is taxed.". Were you arguing that sales tax from conferences and conventions would benefit the city, or were you counting tourism fees from car rentals and downtown hotel rooms? Also, what do you expect the increased convention room, car rental and other discretionary fees to be after this albatross is approved?
I'll listen off air.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3001 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:35:08 PM »

Mocat, add another idiot to your list

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3002 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:37:05 PM »

Yep, I'd PI too if I lost an argument that easily.

Tobias · « **Reply #3003 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:39:36 PM »

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3004 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:40:04 PM »

You listed 4 things convention goers would spend money on and then tried to play it off like the city wouldn't get anything from it. You are a moron

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3005 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:45:28 PM »

The point I made is that those businesses most benefitting from conventions aren't local. If anything, they're employing minimum wage ton $9 an hour employees, largely, and sending most profits out of town. I'll draw a picture for you next time to make it simpler.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3006 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:47:50 PM »

People working in kcmo aren't local, more gems from this moron

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3007 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:50:49 PM »

So here's lb 7's game plan:
1. hand over $50 million in cash to developer/out of town chain.
2. Wait for ffa, la raza, Christian rock convention bonanzas for 25-30 years.j\
3. Applaud national chains McDonald's, hertz, and caterers for employing high school dropouts.

Instant profit

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3008 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:55:43 PM »

KC star headline:

SLY: Low wage earners fly

Mayor credits downtown revitalization to millennials, starving artists who work part time at hotel/caterer and plunge millions into economy

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3009 on:** October 19, 2015, 11:58:29 PM »

I don't care what happens, I'm just pointing out that you're a moron, but you've done a better job than I have at making you look like a moron, so at least you can feel good about that

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3010 on:** October 20, 2015, 12:16:06 AM »

Great argument.
Lib 7's plan to win a debate:
"MORON"

mocat · « **Reply #3011 on:** October 20, 2015, 06:39:17 AM »

Scribe, buddy. Have you ever stayed in a hotel before?

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3012 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:38:20 AM »

This should be fantastic. I'll play along.

Yes mocat, I have

mocat · « **Reply #3013 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:45:32 AM »

scribe, have you ever eaten at a restaurant before?

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3014 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:47:15 AM »

Get to your point mocat

mocat · « **Reply #3015 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:49:08 AM »

Quote from: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:12:50 PM

I'm sure the FFA, La Rasa and insurance commissioner conventions will pay that $50 million, 3 cents at a time.

this is the post where it went south for you

mocat · « **Reply #3016 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:50:27 AM »

like, where is the 3 cents coming from? and why does the convention pay 3 cents?

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3017 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:54:44 AM »

I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.

mocat · « **Reply #3018 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:56:13 AM »

Quote from: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:54:44 AM

I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.

where is the 3 cents coming from?

mocat · « **Reply #3019 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:57:04 AM »

Quote from: Missouriscribe on October 19, 2015, 11:50:49 PM

So here's lb 7's game plan:
1. hand over $50 million in cash to developer/out of town chain.
2. Wait for ffa, la raza, Christian rock convention bonanzas for 25-30 years.j\
3. Applaud national chains McDonald's, hertz, and caterers for employing high school dropouts.

Instant profit

1-it's not $50m in cash
2-you can pooh pooh the conventions all you want
3-wut in the world?

Missouriscribe · « **Reply #3020 on:** October 20, 2015, 07:58:36 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 20, 2015, 07:56:13 AM

Quote from: Missouriscribe on October 20, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
I should have said "convention goers,". Thanks for setting me straight. Lib 7 is fortunate to have a friend who can formulate sentences.

where is the 3 cents coming from?

Is this a Tax increment financing deal that relies on sales tax increases to fund the project?

mocat · « **Reply #3021 on:** October 20, 2015, 08:01:16 AM »

not what i'm asking. you said "3 cents at a time"

mocat · « **Reply #3022 on:** October 20, 2015, 08:02:37 AM »

@pissclams this is more articulate than i am

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article38401968.html

michigancat · « **Reply #3023 on:** October 20, 2015, 08:03:46 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 19, 2015, 12:45:47 PM

i guess the main thing is, it is completely standard practice for tax abatements and such, and the $50 mil over 25 years would be more than made up for iyam. the project cost is $300m.

i mean ffs, olathe is giving $19.6m for an embassy suites (total cost = $51m)
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/03/31/olathe-hotel-and-conference-center.html

That Olathe deal is insane.

michigancat · « **Reply #3024 on:** October 20, 2015, 08:13:38 AM »

Also, the convention business is weird.