The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[sonofdaxjones]

You hyper warmists need to read the Daily Mail article I posted. 

NOAA, who rushed forward with a cooked report is called out by the scientist at NOAA who put together the standards they chose to ignore. 




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[420seriouscat69]

China isn't killing anything technologically ednatard. We're doing fine on solar, and we don't need indentured servants to make it economic.

Stop acting like such a dumbfuck.

Do you ever stop to think, maybe you should just beat yourself in the face with a hammer?

No he doesn't. Same guy who thinks college makes people liberal.

College is extremely liberal dude. Naive chicks listen to their cute extremist liberal professor and that's how they get their viewpoints when it comes to politics. It's sad.

[CHONGS]

But Wacky was too smart for that...lol

[star seed 7]

Serious question, did anyone ever experience any political 'bias from instructors while in college?

In economics/business classes I had several say that they specifically don't make their beliefs known and in the end it doesn't matter and the material is the material.  In science/math it was never broached.  All of that was at KSU tho and my perception is that ksu is a fairly "conservative" campus in relation to the rest of the country.

I took only liberal arts bullcrap at KU, but never really got any indoctrination there either. I had a mid-level polisci instructor that said he was on an fbi watchlist for his political activities, but he never shared any of his personal views that I remember.

Am I an anomaly? Are people getting preached at 24/7 and I just missed it? Or is the ku/ksu region just not as hip to the indoctrination as the coasts?

[Rage Against the McKee]

No, I think most professors are professional enough to not insert their politics into the classroom at just about every school. I'm sure most schools have the odd exception, like that lady at MU that needed more muscle to assault the student press in a public space, though.

[420seriouscat69]

Yes, all the time. Especially in journalism school.

[420seriouscat69]

No, I think most professors are professional enough to not insert their politics into the classroom at just about every school. I'm sure most schools have the odd exception, like that lady at MU that needed more muscle to assault the student press in a public space, though.

That's just a typical journalism professor, dork.

[sonofdaxjones]

Most aren't, but some can be triggered easily. 


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[star seed 7]

Yes, all the time. Especially in journalism school.

Any examples?

[420seriouscat69]

Yes, all the time. Especially in journalism school.

Any examples?

The head of the journalism school, Mr Smethers is the most political figure i've ever came a crossed in my life. Constant FB posts bashing Bush back in the day and would lol/make backhanded comments about the administration in class/lectures.

[420seriouscat69]

Attacked Brownback a lot too, which was awkward with his daughter being in our class and all.

[star seed 7]

Attacked how? what did he say, and in what context?

[420seriouscat69]

Jesus christ, that was like 10 years ago. I can't remember. I just remember rolling my eyes at the time.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Is Brownback's daughter a liberal now?

[420seriouscat69]

Is Brownback's daughter a liberal now?

Yes, she was in school anyways.

[Emo EMAW]

I remember one or two out of like 60.  And when I say remember, I mean I'm sure there was one or two, but I'd have to look at my transcript to recall which.  I wasn't very political tho so maybe some more were and I didn't notice.

[420seriouscat69]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/

Liberal professors outnumber conservatives nearly 12 to 1, study finds

It's a thing, guys.

[star seed 7]

I'm not sure how that's relevant to the question, wackycat08

[camKSU]

Okay there Cam.  Let's just shut off the tap and turn it over to ultra inefficient "green energy" and watch the economy and standard of living collapse before our eyes. 

All for the sake of an invisible gas that no warmest propagandist can accurately tell us (or ever hope to) what the best PPM of its presence is in our atmosphere. 

Sadly, the credibility of warmest propagandist is shot when they try to lay everything at the feet of AGW.

To get back to the topic of the thread:

I'll start off by ignoring the over-the-top exaggeration that we only two choices (all or nothing bullshit), Dax...

We (non-knuckle-draggers) are merely advocating that alternative energy be prioritized in greater scope and breadth than fossil fuels. It's based on jobs, resiliency, renewable/virtually infinite sources, not to even mention climate change or the impact on the environment. To say that 97% of climate scientists are propaganda-pushing alarmist is fringe paranoia at its finest.

There is obviously going to be a period of transition from one fuel/energy source to another, it's not going to happen overnight... But clinging to outdated or archaic models is both naive and ignorant of the trajectory of the market and industry.

Get with the times, yo.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COMMUNITY_SOLAR_POWER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/01/25/u-s-solar-energy-employs-more-people-than-oil-coal-and-gas-combined-infographic/#4cd0bde77d27

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/china-solar-energy/

[Emo EMAW]

Has anyone stopped to consider what would happen if we harvested a significant amount of energy from the wind?  Might that change climate too?  How much square footage of solar panels would it take to power my house?  I would guess more than the size of my lot.  No idea tho.

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Has anyone stopped to consider what would happen if we harvested a significant amount of energy from the wind?  Might that change climate too?

what?

How much square footage of solar panels would it take to power my house?

how big is your house and how sunny is your environment?

[star seed 7]

Has anyone stopped to consider what would happen if we harvested a significant amount of energy from the wind?  Might that change climate too?  How much square footage of solar panels would it take to power my house?  I would guess more than the size of my lot.  No idea tho.

My mom was looking at a development of normal 2br houses that are all fully powered by solar panels on the roof

[sonofdaxjones]

Cam, you don't speak for everyone, dummy.   

Thanks for the Captain Obvious articles of which 2, I've already seen. 

You're new to this, but pages back when people were railing on "Big Energy" I reminded them that Big E controlled thousands of patents, rights and ownership in so called "green" energy. 

Plus relative to one of the articles, why wouldn't Big E be looking at alternative sources given the amount of government cheese that's been available? They're not dumb.

That still doesn't mean that alternative energy isn't (still) inefficient and (still) unreliable.

Now, please direct your attention to the article about what amounts to the outright lies coming out of NOAA, and how one of their own called them on it.

These lies with a political agenda are driving policy.

[Emo EMAW]

Sys I'm curious if, let's say there's some finite amount of energy in the wind over some area or control volume.  I assume that must be the case.  What if we were harvest a significant amount of that wind?  I'm not sure what that amount is, but let's just assume we could and would want to harvest as much as possible.  Couldn't that create some change of some sort?  I assume it could. 

[Emo EMAW]

Has anyone stopped to consider what would happen if we harvested a significant amount of energy from the wind?  Might that change climate too?  How much square footage of solar panels would it take to power my house?  I would guess more than the size of my lot.  No idea tho.

My mom was looking at a development of normal 2br houses that are all fully powered by solar panels on the roof

What is a normal 2br house?  Have never heard of such a thing.  Like my parents built a 6000 sq ft 2br house but that also does not seem normal.  Even PV is all 3br and those things are closets.