The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[The Big Train]

You should have FSD or KSUW tell you about the lots of necessary taxes for your own energy

[bucket]

I'm considering a wind turbine for my home.  Seems like a no brainier.

Unfortunately, I don't believe you can sell energy back to the grid in Kansas. It would still be a nice investment.

[star seed 7]

it's been pretty gd windy lately too

[sonofdaxjones]

What really blows my mind is what we have resident Whackadoodles who don't get that just because the factual realities of energy poverty and copious subsidies to keep so called renewables afloat are discussed, doesn't mean that we shouldn't be moving that direction.    It's just a simple fact that we shouldn't be moving in that direction by forcing the issue down people of lessor means throat and making them economically less viable..   Even though said Whackadoodle continuously uses over the top hyperbole based on a completely unsettled scientific concept to try and scare people. 

[sonofdaxjones]

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.r46T8cQ8.CCUslpPe.dpbs

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

New evidence suggests......

[bucket]

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.r46T8cQ8.CCUslpPe.dpbs

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.

No Tricks Zone? Impeccable reference

[sonofdaxjones]

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.r46T8cQ8.CCUslpPe.dpbs

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.

No Tricks Zone? Impeccable reference

It was quoting a specific article in a German publication.    So you're going down the Whackadoodle path of impugning the source but not the information it presents?    classic

[wetwillie]

Dax what kind of residential wind turbine should I get?  Honeywell has this pretty great one that goes on the roof that they collaborated with a company named windtronics. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax what kind of residential wind turbine should I get?  Honeywell has this pretty great one that goes on the roof that they collaborated with a company named windtronics.

Solar, dumbass

[wetwillie]

Why solar?  It's really cloudy in Kansas all the time.

[sonofdaxjones]

Why solar?  It's really cloudy in Kansas all the time.

Move

[The Big Train]

I could have made like a million dollars from a turbine over the past week

[wetwillie]

Yea TBT I don't know why Dax is being a jerk about it.  O well.

[sonofdaxjones]

Bird killers

[bucket]

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.r46T8cQ8.CCUslpPe.dpbs

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.

No Tricks Zone? Impeccable reference

It was quoting a specific article in a German publication.    So you're going down the Whackadoodle path of impugning the source but not the information it presents?    classic

A political blog, when translated, named "Axis of Good." Impeccable reference.

[sonofdaxjones]

Tapping out so easily Bucket?

Sad

[star seed 7]

I think notrickszone.com is actually a parody site

[bucket]

Lawrence Hunter commented in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, the authors of weblogs had " the concerns of the American neocons " written on the flags. "Pretty rabid anti-Islamism " stand next to numerous skeptical climate submissions.
In an essay on the subject of Islamophobia Sabine Schiffer classified The axis of good one as " anti-Islamic " website.
The later co-author Hannes Stein characterized the axis of the good as the main actor of a "liberal parallel universe ", which stands near the American neoconservatism.

The Axis of Good sounds like it'd be right up your alley, dax.

Why didn't Fox News scoop this story? Got dang liberal media suppressing the truth! 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

For good reason, nobody actually gaf about global climate warming change.

[sonofdaxjones]

Lawrence Hunter commented in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, the authors of weblogs had " the concerns of the American neocons " written on the flags. "Pretty rabid anti-Islamism " stand next to numerous skeptical climate submissions.
In an essay on the subject of Islamophobia Sabine Schiffer classified The axis of good one as " anti-Islamic " website.
The later co-author Hannes Stein characterized the axis of the good as the main actor of a "liberal parallel universe ", which stands near the American neoconservatism.

The Axis of Good sounds like it'd be right up your alley, dax.

Why didn't Fox News scoop this story? Got dang liberal media suppressing the truth! 

  so just because a couple of people no one has heard have an opinion on a website, that immediately makes it lack credibility, and anything that they reference lacks credibility?   Thanks for the comedy bucket.      

If it's not from Salon, it ain't crap, right bucket?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

To be fair to bucket, he's a dutiful foot shoulder of a political party who knows nothing other than kill the messenger.

[ednksu]

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.r46T8cQ8.CCUslpPe.dpbs

From the publicly available data, Ewert made an unbelievable discovery: Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.

So how do you account for things which are directly observable like snowpacks in the Sierra Nevadas being a fraction of what they were, well pretty much less snow on all mountain ranges, warmer sea temps, and less snow and ice on the north pole?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

http://gizmodo.com/we-finally-know-why-the-north-pole-is-moving-east-1769588584

I saw a movie once that showed what happens when the caps melt, the earth turns on its side

  so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

[bucket]

Lawrence Hunter commented in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, the authors of weblogs had " the concerns of the American neocons " written on the flags. "Pretty rabid anti-Islamism " stand next to numerous skeptical climate submissions.
In an essay on the subject of Islamophobia Sabine Schiffer classified The axis of good one as " anti-Islamic " website.
The later co-author Hannes Stein characterized the axis of the good as the main actor of a "liberal parallel universe ", which stands near the American neoconservatism.

The Axis of Good sounds like it'd be right up your alley, dax.

Why didn't Fox News scoop this story? Got dang liberal media suppressing the truth! 

  so just because a couple of people no one has heard have an opinion on a website, that immediately makes it lack credibility, and anything that they reference lacks credibility?   Thanks for the comedy bucket.      

If it's not from Salon, it ain't crap, right bucket?

Yes, when someone, who no one has heard of, posts an opinion on a blog advancing an agenda and that opinion pushes said agenda it lacks credibility.