The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[Ptolemy]

http://scienceblogs.com/significantfigures/index.php/2015/12/09/everything-senator-ted-cruz-said-about-climate-change-in-this-npr-interview-was-wrong/

Always great to find people saying the same things you are.  The only way to accept the Cruz/Dax position is to totally reject the scientific method.

You mean THIS Peter Gleick?

Heartland Institute incident

On February 20, 2012, Gleick announced he was responsible for the unauthorized distribution of documents from The Heartland Institute in mid-February. Gleick claimed he had received "an anonymous document in the mail describing what appeared to be details of the Heartland Institute's climate program strategy", and in trying to verify the authenticity of the document, had "solicited and received additional materials directly from the Heartland Institute under someone else's name". Responding to the leak, The Heartland Institute said one of the documents released, a two-page 'Strategy Memo', had been forged. Gleick denied forging the document. Gleick described his actions as "a serious lapse of my own and professional judgment and ethics" and said that he "deeply regret[ted his] own actions in this case" and "offer[ed his] personal apologies to all those affected". He stated that "My judgment was blinded by my frustration with the ongoing efforts – often anonymous, well-funded, and coordinated – to attack climate science and scientists and prevent this debate, and by the lack of transparency of the organizations involved." On February 24 he wrote to the board of the Pacific Institute requesting a "temporary short-term leave of absence" from the Institute. The Board of Directors stated it was "deeply concerned regarding recent events" involving Gleick and the Heartland documents, and appointed a new Acting Executive Director on February 27.

[Ptolemy]

http://scienceblogs.com/significantfigures/index.php/2015/12/09/everything-senator-ted-cruz-said-about-climate-change-in-this-npr-interview-was-wrong/

Always great to find people saying the same things you are.  The only way to accept the Cruz/Dax position is to totally reject the scientific method.

And THIS...

CRUZ: Of course there will be alternative energies. We will have innovation. And I promise you this. The alternative energy innovations are not going to come from Washington. They’re not going to come from the cronyism of this town. They’re not going to come from Solyndra because when Washington does that, they allocate money based on political concerns, not based on what is necessary. I fully expect in a hundred years, or maybe 50 years, or maybe even 10 or 20 years – I mean, change can be very rapid. And I am excited to see where that goes. But it will come from the private sector, not from government.

[star seed 7]

'lemy is such a great addition to the pit

[sonofdaxjones]

Federal scientist bro shared an anecdote about how NOAA wanted to install a weather station on the side of a metal shed at his lab and the scientists there PI'd them so hard for their stupidity they never heard from them again.

[slobber]

Federal scientist bro shared an anecdote about how NOAA wanted to install a weather station on the side of a metal shed at his lab and the scientists there PI'd them so hard for their stupidity they never heard from them again.

Get your bro to post here! (Where does he work?)

[ednksu]

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

Dax's home

[sonofdaxjones]

Lol, WTF is EDN whackadoodle talking about now? 

[ednksu]

[renocat]

Damn east coast global warming.  Where is Al Gore?   Won't see his white butt until the summer.

[OK_Cat]

Renocat doesn't understand global warming (shocked)

[star seed 7]

Sure is warm today

[ednksu]

http://reverbpress.com/news/this-bankruptcy-filing-proves-big-coal-funded-climate-change-denial-groups-all-along/


Oh no that big scientific grant money is really out there to slander big coal.

[sonofdaxjones]

Conspiracy! Denialists!

[renocat]

Conspiracy! Denialists!

Here is the.sacrificial pig Obama will sue as.a.warmer.denier.

[ednksu]

Paper trail proving that these groups who "took down" these scientists in your mind being linked to big energy, who has an order of magnitude more money on the line, but we'll still say it's that big green energy dollar driving this.

[sonofdaxjones]

Imagine that, an energy company fighting back against the millions being pumped into various government agencies and research entities with clear ideological and political bias.

Government entities that when challenged repeatedly and continuously thwart if not outright ignore FOIA requests and Congressional subpoenas. 

[Ptolemy]

There should be no surprise in coal companies funding research that protects what they believe just as there's no surprise in liberal democrat-led government giving grants to scientists who support their big-government agenda, or in giving half a billion dollars to companies like Solyndra that turned around and gave money back to Democrats running for office.  Even this left-leaning resource admitted it happened...

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/nov/15/americans-prosperity/solyndra-ad-president-barack-obama-taxpayer-money/

You want to fear something? Fear this...

http://dailysignal.com/2016/03/10/attorney-general-lynch-looking-into-prosecuting-climate-change-deniers/

We're back to Galileo being jailed for not believing the earth was the center of the universe!

[ednksu]

Imagine that, an energy company fighting back against the millions being pumped into various government agencies and research entities with clear ideological and political bias.

Government entities that when challenged repeatedly and continuously thwart if not outright ignore FOIA requests and Congressional subpoenas.

Dear Dax,
Billions and trillions are bigger than millions. 


Also I'll wait for you to prove with anything more than a gif showing reasonable scientific adjustments to temp data to prove 97% of scientists are wrong.  But I'm sure all those thousands are lying through their teeth foe that million dollar pie.

[sonofdaxjones]

We're so sure of our "science" no one can see it . . . The Government

[ednksu]

We're so sure of our "science" no one can see it . . . The Government

This sentence doesn't make sense.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

We're so sure of our "science" no one can see it . . . The Government

This sentence doesn't make sense.

Yes it does

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/no-global-warming-for-58-years-what-the-government-is-hiding.html

[star seed 7]

Gonna be very warm today

[ednksu]

We're so sure of our "science" no one can see it . . . The Government

This sentence doesn't make sense.

Yes it does

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/no-global-warming-for-58-years-what-the-government-is-hiding.html

lol at posting a "news source" with data being hosted on WordPress sites.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

We're so sure of our "science" no one can see it . . . The Government

This sentence doesn't make sense.

Yes it does

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/no-global-warming-for-58-years-what-the-government-is-hiding.html

lol at posting a "news source" with data being hosted on WordPress sites.

WORD PRESS!1!!!!   

[sonofdaxjones]

Whackadoodle with his idiotic expenditure talking point.    Millions in ideologically oriented and politicized climate "science" costs has been funded for years already; the facilities, the salaries etc. etc.   Pointing out the actual annual expenditures in research only covers a small portion of the bills taxpayers have already fronted to serve an ideology.