The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

That doesn't surprise me. I also heard comments regarding remuneration for countries that lost land to rising sea levels. It relied upon lol levels of conjecture and, unsurprisingly, the US was to pay the most despite having far and away more shoreline than the beneficiary countries.

What a sham

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Hillary announced a proposed tax policy today. If there's an old factory in your town that closes, you can get a tax credit if you find people to reopen it. Sounds like a great way to curb carbon emissions. As we all know, old plants are usually super efficient.

Also, obligatory "corporate slave" post

[star seed 7]

Man, she's such a far left wing wackadoodle

[Emo EMAW]

I think she's just a lying snake of a bitch.

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Obv. How many incongruent positions can one person take?

[CNS]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/asia/china-beijing-pollution-red-alert/

Does this play into the natural warming/cooling cycles of the planet? 

[star seed 7]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/asia/china-beijing-pollution-red-alert/

Does this play into the natural warming/cooling cycles of the planet?

Regresocon utopia.

My cousin lives there and has told me the air he breaths daily is equal to smoking 2 packs a day. Amazing that regresocons want that for the US

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

You guys realize that smog is different than carbon dioxide, right? Carbon dioxide is that odorless, tasteless, invisible stuff coming out of your body right now - the stuff plants need to survive. Smog is particulate air pollution, basically smoke + fog.

[cfbandyman]

You guys realize that smog is different than carbon dioxide, right? Carbon dioxide is that odorless, tasteless, invisible stuff coming out of your body right now - the stuff plants need to survive. Smog is particulate air pollution, basically smoke + fog.

The source of it all though is coal plants, so plenty of CO2 happily spewing into the atmosphere, in addition to all the particulate.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

You guys realize that smog is different than carbon dioxide, right? Carbon dioxide is that odorless, tasteless, invisible stuff coming out of your body right now - the stuff plants need to survive. Smog is particulate air pollution, basically smoke + fog.

The source of it all though is coal plants, so plenty of CO2 happily spewing into the atmosphere, in addition to all the particulate.

Ok, but you can curb particulate air pollution without necessarily curbing CO2 emissions. This is an important distinction. To suggest that reducing CO2 emissions is necessary for "cleaner air" is idiotic.

[ednksu]

It's great the neocons here think CO2 is the only thing to worry about in all this.

[michigancat]

You guys realize that smog is different than carbon dioxide, right? Carbon dioxide is that odorless, tasteless, invisible stuff coming out of your body right now - the stuff plants need to survive. Smog is particulate air pollution, basically smoke + fog.

The source of it all though is coal plants, so plenty of CO2 happily spewing into the atmosphere, in addition to all the particulate.

Ok, but you can curb particulate air pollution without necessarily curbing CO2 emissions. This is an important distinction. To suggest that reducing CO2 emissions is necessary for "cleaner air" is idiotic.

Why don't any republicans support/propose ways to make air cleaner (without curtailing CO2 emissions)? Maybe they have and just aren't very proud of it?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Two points and I'll listen off air:

1) the overwhelming majority of rhetoric on climate change is centered on CO2

2) Particulate matter is already regulated well in the US, so I'm guessing the Pubs don't see a need to regulate it again (I understand this concept will be difficult to comprehend for the libtard). It's the libtards who want to regulate co2, not the pubs ting to unregulate actual pollution.

[star seed 7]

Clean air is just too much of a burden for America's businesses

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I mean, half the libtards on this board think co2 is poisonous, and they're all inhaling and exhaling it at this very moment.

[ednksu]

Two points and I'll listen off air:

1) the overwhelming majority of rhetoric on climate change is centered on CO2

2) Particulate matter is already regulated well in the US, so I'm guessing the Pubs don't see a need to regulate it again (I understand this concept will be difficult to comprehend for the libtard). It's the libtards who want to regulate co2, not the pubs ting to unregulate actual pollution.

Thats because CO2 is one of the gases we are producing the most of, which we can attack the fastest. 

Also this will soon be another reason for you guys to discount climate change, but lets get this on the board now. 
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/oct/13/methane-release-from-melting-permafrost-could-trigger-dangerous-global-warming
Methane is another gas that we don't really account for right now.  Dax will say it's an example of CC being false, when in reality it's another aspect that we don't fully understand and the science is still learning to deal with.  This is part of the reason why those "minor" incremental changes matter.  Things like permafrost need to be within a certain range, 1 or 2 degrees above that and they melt, causing more variables for us to deal with. 

Also if your party had it's way, there would be no regulation of anything in the air since you want to abolish the EPA....so please don't stand on the shoulders of people who want clean air when you're getting ready to stab them in the back.

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You are the idiot who posted this.

It's great the neocons here think CO2 is the only thing to worry about in all this.

I think the party just want to demilitarize the epa, not abort it. But, thanks for the Wack-a-doodle allegation.

[ednksu]

You are the idiot who posted this.

It's great the neocons here think CO2 is the only thing to worry about in all this.

I think the party just want to demilitarize the epa, not abort it. But, thanks for the Wack-a-doodle allegation.

weird since, just about every, Pub candidate wants to destroy the EPA.....

[michigancat]

I mean, half the libtards on this board think co2 is poisonous, and they're all inhaling and exhaling it at this very moment.

CO2 is absolutely poisonous

[star seed 7]

Regresocons def want to abort the epa (and fda), not sure how you can deny that with a straight face

[sonofdaxjones]

PLJB's think all climate problems begin and end with theoretical CO2 issues EDN.   You're hilarious.

PLJB's are all for EPA policy being made by special interest and via sue and settle fraud(s).   

ProgLib JackBoots are on the march!

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I mean, half the libtards on this board think co2 is poisonous, and they're all inhaling and exhaling it at this very moment.

CO2 is absolutely poisonous

About as poisonous as oxygen is

[star seed 7]

God damn jackboots giving us clean air and clean water. Oh regresocons, free me from these regulatory bonds!

[Emo EMAW]

Water is poisonous.  What isn't poisonous?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Well then, we should curtail and tax production of water and oxygen.