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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #475 on: January 06, 2014, 01:28:39 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.



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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #476 on: January 06, 2014, 02:07:44 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #477 on: January 06, 2014, 03:16:15 PM »
Count me on team global warming.  This sucks

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #478 on: January 06, 2014, 03:28:17 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

But all roads do not lead back to AGW, and that's what Warmist Propaganda wants everyone to believe.


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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #479 on: January 06, 2014, 03:32:35 PM »
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #480 on: January 06, 2014, 03:58:21 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

(1) You don't know that, and (2) you can't say by how much, so isn't that comment both stupid and irrelevant?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #481 on: January 06, 2014, 04:51:14 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

(1) You don't know that, and (2) you can't say by how much, so isn't that comment both stupid and irrelevant?

I absolutely do know that. I guess maybe if you are replacing the lost CO2 with some other greenhouse gas, then the earth would retain as much heat as it is now, but that is pretty irrelevant.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #482 on: January 06, 2014, 05:06:32 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

(1) You don't know that, and (2) you can't say by how much, so isn't that comment both stupid and irrelevant?

I absolutely do know that.

You absolutely don't. Nobody does. The "greenhouse effect" is a theory. It is not a fact.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #483 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:42 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

(1) You don't know that, and (2) you can't say by how much, so isn't that comment both stupid and irrelevant?

I absolutely do know that.

You absolutely don't. Nobody does. The "greenhouse effect" is a theory. It is not a fact.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #484 on: January 06, 2014, 05:19:12 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #485 on: January 06, 2014, 06:34:30 PM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

Well, that can't be true. Nuts is absolutely certain!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #486 on: January 06, 2014, 11:37:37 PM »
What are we doing as a world to keep the sun from burning out?  Are there any models?  If so, are any of them not wrong?
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #487 on: January 07, 2014, 08:23:48 AM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

Well, that can't be true. Nuts is absolutely certain!

It's not like CO2 levels are the only thing that affect earth temperatures.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #488 on: January 07, 2014, 08:46:58 AM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

Well, that can't be true. Nuts is absolutely certain!

It's not like CO2 levels are the only thing that affect earth temperatures.

Oh, just the only taxable thing?

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #489 on: January 07, 2014, 08:52:09 AM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

Well, that can't be true. Nuts is absolutely certain!

It's not like CO2 levels are the only thing that affect earth temperatures.

Oh, just the only taxable thing?

Maybe. I think you could probably tax water vapor fairly easily, too.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #490 on: January 07, 2014, 11:14:24 AM »
In the Warmest World, "normal" is approximately 150 years.   Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion Years Old any discussion about the Earth being colder (it has been) or warmer (it has been) shall not be recognized.   Nor shall discussion about the Earth being in a state of relative CO2 deficit compared to other periods in its entire history.

The earth is definitely warmer than it would be with less CO2 in the atmosphere, though.

Nobody has proven that increased CO2 concentration causes global warming, or, if the increased CO2 concentration is caused by global warming.

Historically, increased CO2 is a lagging indicator, not leading.

Well, that can't be true. Nuts is absolutely certain!

It's not like CO2 levels are the only thing that affect earth temperatures.

Oh, just the only taxable thing?

Maybe. I think you could probably tax water vapor fairly easily, too.

Taxing clouds seems silly, especially since they will actually cool the Earth as the natural warming cycles wax and wane.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #491 on: January 07, 2014, 11:32:07 AM »
it's dry (and hot) as hell here.  those dumbasses should have sailed this way.
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #492 on: January 07, 2014, 11:46:02 AM »
are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #493 on: January 07, 2014, 12:17:24 PM »
are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

actual temperature doesn't seem to matter to the climate change crowd any more since the average global temps have stabilized over the last 15 years. I think that's why the don't call it global warming any longer.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #494 on: January 07, 2014, 01:13:48 PM »

are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

actual temperature doesn't seem to matter to the climate change crowd any more since the average global temps have stabilized over the last 15 years. I think that's why the don't call it global warming any longer.
I can't tell if that is a yes or a no.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #495 on: January 07, 2014, 01:33:43 PM »

are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

actual temperature doesn't seem to matter to the climate change crowd any more since the average global temps have stabilized over the last 15 years. I think that's why the don't call it global warming any longer.
I can't tell if that is a yes or a no.

Temperatures are meaningless to climate changers.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #496 on: January 07, 2014, 03:20:16 PM »

are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

actual temperature doesn't seem to matter to the climate change crowd any more since the average global temps have stabilized over the last 15 years. I think that's why the don't call it global warming any longer.
I can't tell if that is a yes or a no.

Temperatures are meaningless to climate changers.

are they meaningful to you?

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #497 on: January 07, 2014, 03:31:23 PM »

are the gE scientists giving equal weight to the record setting highs being experienced from oslo to irkutsk?

actual temperature doesn't seem to matter to the climate change crowd any more since the average global temps have stabilized over the last 15 years. I think that's why the don't call it global warming any longer.
I can't tell if that is a yes or a no.

Temperatures are meaningless to climate changers.

are they meaningful to you?

Only if it's too hot or too cold.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #498 on: January 07, 2014, 09:00:15 PM »
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Re: If the models are all wrong
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