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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #250 on: November 04, 2013, 12:34:38 PM »
Here is the official government list. It looks like you can buy just about any food item that is not hot and eaten on premises. Steak, king crab legs, and Doritos are OK.

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Eligible Food Items

Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
   Foods for the household to eat, such as:
     --    breads and cereals;
     --    fruits and vegetables;
     --    meats, fish and poultry; and
     --    dairy products.
   

Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.

In some areas, restaurants can be authorized to accept SNAP benefits from qualified homeless, elderly, or disabled people in exchange for low-cost meals.

Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
   Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;
   

Any nonfood items, such as:
     --    pet foods;
     --    soaps, paper products; and
     --    household supplies.
   

Vitamins and medicines.
   

Food that will be eaten in the store.
   

Hot foods.

Additional Information

“Junk Food” & Luxury Items
The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (the Act) defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits:  alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food and any food sold for on-premises consumption. Nonfood items such as pet foods, soaps, paper products, medicines and vitamins, household supplies, grooming items, and cosmetics, also are ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits.
 
   Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items
   

Seafood, steak, and bakery cakes are also food items and are therefore eligible items
     

Since the current definition of food is a specific part of the Act, any change to this definition would require action by a member of Congress. Several times in the history of SNAP, Congress had considered placing limits on the types of food that could be purchased with program benefits. However, they concluded that designating foods as luxury or non-nutritious would be administratively costly and burdensome. Further detailed information about the challenges of restricting the use of SNAP benefits can be found here:

Report -- Implications of Restricting the use of
              Food Stamp Benefits 

Energy Drinks
When considering the eligibility of energy drinks, and other branded products, the primary determinant is the type of product label chosen by the manufacturer to conform to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) guidelines:
 
   Energy drinks that have a nutrition facts label are eligible foods
   

Energy drinks that have a supplement facts label are classified by the FDA as supplements, and are therefore not eligible

Live Animals
Live animals may not be purchased with SNAP benefits.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #252 on: December 17, 2013, 11:20:46 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25415501

oh boy, K-S-U is going to have an aneurysm after reading that.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #253 on: December 17, 2013, 11:49:38 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25415501

Oh man, that would be great.  I hope they do it so we can all laugh.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #254 on: December 17, 2013, 11:50:27 PM »
It will probably work well for them.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #255 on: December 18, 2013, 11:53:31 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25415501

oh boy, K-S-U is going to have an aneurysm after reading that.

The Swiss are voting to expand their welfare state? Why would I care?
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #256 on: December 18, 2013, 12:26:08 PM »
This would be a fantastic experiment. From one of the most productive societies to the most unproductive in a matter of one generation.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #257 on: December 18, 2013, 12:36:02 PM »
This would be a fantastic experiment. From one of the most productive societies to the most unproductive in a matter of one generation.

Their society isn't productive.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #258 on: December 18, 2013, 12:37:26 PM »
will the right still want their gun laws if this passes?

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #259 on: December 18, 2013, 02:32:00 PM »
This would be a fantastic experiment. From one of the most productive societies to the most unproductive in a matter of one generation.

Their society isn't productive.

yes it is.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #260 on: December 18, 2013, 02:33:28 PM »
This would be a fantastic experiment. From one of the most productive societies to the most unproductive in a matter of one generation.

Their society isn't productive.

yes it is.

No, it's not.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #261 on: December 18, 2013, 02:36:32 PM »
This would be a fantastic experiment. From one of the most productive societies to the most unproductive in a matter of one generation.

Their society isn't productive.

yes it is.

No, it's not.

yes it is.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #262 on: December 18, 2013, 02:39:42 PM »

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« Reply #263 on: December 18, 2013, 04:40:12 PM »
man, when that guy said that working just to get money was basically slavery... what a great philosophy to live by.   :D
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« Reply #264 on: December 18, 2013, 04:41:20 PM »
man, when that guy said that working just to get money was basically slavery... what a great philosophy to live by.   :D

fantastic quote.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #265 on: December 18, 2013, 05:55:46 PM »
man, when that guy said that working just to get money was basically slavery... what a great philosophy to live by.   :D

Why doesn't he just work for free? Then it would be like welfare when he got his paycheck. Boom, mind blown.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #266 on: January 28, 2014, 05:00:23 PM »
One small step towards exposing SNAP waste and our bloated entitlement system. http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2014/01/court-rejects-secrecy-for-food-stamp-numbers-182072.html

Get ready for lots of arguments about urban "food deserts" and how it actually makes sense to spend food stamps on McDonalds.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #267 on: January 28, 2014, 05:27:05 PM »
i think the governments concerns about fraud are misplaced.

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The reason that USDA is concerned with disclosing this information is...this redemption information is reviewed by the agency to look for fraud,” Bengford said. “If all the information as to individual retailers who participate in this program were available by store type and the amount of redemptions that they’re bringing in on a yearly basis that would allow individuals who are participating in fraud to use that information to look for outliers—as far as trying to make a determination where the agency might be setting its threshhold as to where there might be a concern that someone could be participating in fraud.”

i wish we could open up the bigger budget issues to this type of scrutiny.

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« Reply #268 on: January 29, 2014, 08:24:09 AM »
i think the governments concerns about fraud are misplaced.

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The reason that USDA is concerned with disclosing this information is...this redemption information is reviewed by the agency to look for fraud,” Bengford said. “If all the information as to individual retailers who participate in this program were available by store type and the amount of redemptions that they’re bringing in on a yearly basis that would allow individuals who are participating in fraud to use that information to look for outliers—as far as trying to make a determination where the agency might be setting its threshhold as to where there might be a concern that someone could be participating in fraud.”

i wish we could open up the bigger budget issues to this type of scrutiny.

Wait, we won't release the information because it would allow companies to find fraud?

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« Reply #269 on: January 29, 2014, 08:49:15 AM »
i think the governments concerns about fraud are misplaced.

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The reason that USDA is concerned with disclosing this information is...this redemption information is reviewed by the agency to look for fraud,” Bengford said. “If all the information as to individual retailers who participate in this program were available by store type and the amount of redemptions that they’re bringing in on a yearly basis that would allow individuals who are participating in fraud to use that information to look for outliers—as far as trying to make a determination where the agency might be setting its threshhold as to where there might be a concern that someone could be participating in fraud.”

i wish we could open up the bigger budget issues to this type of scrutiny.

Wait, we won't release the information because it would allow companies to find fraud?

The concern is that it would allow individuals who are currently acting fraudulently to do so more effectively. I think they should just release the numbers.

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« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2014, 09:14:03 AM »
i think the governments concerns about fraud are misplaced.

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The reason that USDA is concerned with disclosing this information is...this redemption information is reviewed by the agency to look for fraud,” Bengford said. “If all the information as to individual retailers who participate in this program were available by store type and the amount of redemptions that they’re bringing in on a yearly basis that would allow individuals who are participating in fraud to use that information to look for outliers—as far as trying to make a determination where the agency might be setting its threshhold as to where there might be a concern that someone could be participating in fraud.”

i wish we could open up the bigger budget issues to this type of scrutiny.

Wait, we won't release the information because it would allow companies to find fraud?

The concern is that it would allow individuals who are currently acting fraudulently to do so more effectively. I think they should just release the numbers.

They don't want the public to know what the majority of SNAP money is being spent on, like liquor, cigarettes, fast food, and snacks.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #271 on: January 29, 2014, 09:30:43 AM »
They don't want the public to know what the majority of SNAP money is being spent on, like liquor, cigarettes, fast food, and snacks.

Unfortunately, I think they're only releasing the percentage by retailer, not what it's actually spent on. But I think we may be surprised (or maybe not) to see how much EBT is being spent at convenience stores and fast food joints, where the food is generally more expensive and less healthy.

That's why I'm sure we'll hear a lot of arguments about "food deserts" (places where grocery stores just don't exist), or how McDonalds is actually cheaper than buying groceries. It would be fun to be a liberal strategist and come up with all kinds of ridiculous excuses. Here's one just off the top of my head: "Well, of course the EBT is being spent on fast food. These people don't have time to shop for groceries and prepare meals because they're too busy looking for work!"
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« Reply #272 on: January 29, 2014, 10:21:41 AM »
They don't want the public to know what the majority of SNAP money is being spent on, like liquor, cigarettes, fast food, and snacks.

Unfortunately, I think they're only releasing the percentage by retailer, not what it's actually spent on. But I think we may be surprised (or maybe not) to see how much EBT is being spent at convenience stores and fast food joints, where the food is generally more expensive and less healthy.

That's why I'm sure we'll hear a lot of arguments about "food deserts" (places where grocery stores just don't exist), or how McDonalds is actually cheaper than buying groceries. It would be fun to be a liberal strategist and come up with all kinds of ridiculous excuses. Here's one just off the top of my head: "Well, of course the EBT is being spent on fast food. These people don't have time to shop for groceries and prepare meals because they're too busy looking for work!"
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