Author Topic: First Openly Gay Athlete (in a major sport) (Read 61638 times)

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #175 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:02:03 PM »

This thread could use a 'noudji (sp) post.

paulnyakatura · « **Reply #176 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:09:27 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on April 29, 2013, 09:12:59 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on April 29, 2013, 08:46:25 PM
Oh you're one of THOSE people, like the Klan who use scripture as justification for burning crosses in yards of unsuspecting niggers, spics, and jews. Got it.

Yep, exactly like that.

Heaven sounds super racist.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #177 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:10:46 PM »

Quote from: rick daris on April 30, 2013, 12:00:31 PM

poet warrior is and always has been a truly terrible poster. it's weird that people don't already know this. also, nothing he's done in this thread should sway your opinion on his posting skills. they were actually borderline ok here.

and let me be clear... when i say his posting skills were ok here, i'm not talking about the message or whatever. that's obv gargage just like him.

michigancat · « **Reply #178 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:55:41 PM »

Quote from: scottwildcat on April 30, 2013, 09:54:37 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 30, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally. Just saying they don't like homosexuality is totally their right.

That being said, the "why don't these so-called tolerant people respect MY beliefs?" argument us equally hilarious and stupid.

So you shouldn't have to respect people's beliefs if they don't line up with yours? Or is this directed at the extremist touting off that everyone is going to hell?

no, you shouldn't have to respect everyone's beliefs. (and you really probably shouldn't.)

Bigots were just creating a strawman definition of "tolerant", and I think it is funny.

michigancat · « **Reply #179 on:** April 30, 2013, 12:58:22 PM »

Quote from: mocat on April 30, 2013, 09:57:57 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 30, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally.

If they treat people equally are they bigots?

hmm, maybe not. but maybe?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #180 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:10:46 PM »

This is a fantastic thread.

But chalk me up as someone who is asking why this is such a big deal.

I guess I ask because for one reason or another I've been around quite a few gay people in my life. Neighbors, co-workers, customers, friends . . . and it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

puniraptor · « **Reply #181 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:13:15 PM »

I think its a scheme. If he was currently on a roster or under contract he would still be closeted. He chose now because he is a undesirable free agent looking for a team. Now NBA teams will feel pressured to pick him up lest they be accused of bigotry.

still a big deal tho >>>>>

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #182 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:15:16 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on April 30, 2013, 12:58:22 PM

Quote from: mocat on April 30, 2013, 09:57:57 AM
Quote from: michigancat on April 30, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally.

If they treat people equally are they bigots?

hmm, maybe not. but maybe?

Still a bigot, just a pussy as well.

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #183 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:16:14 PM »

haven't been reading every single post in this thread because it got pretty stupid there for a minute but has anyone compared it to magic johnson yet? has magic said anything? i understand comparing hiv and homosexuality are for the most part different but their integration into the nba could be similar.

probably luked, but i like the talking point more than the stupid bible debate.

8manpick · « **Reply #184 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:16:33 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 30, 2013, 01:10:46 PM

This is a fantastic thread.

But chalk me up as someone who is asking why this is such a big deal.

I guess I ask because for one reason or another I've been around quite a few gay people in my life. Neighbors, co-workers, customers, friends . . . and it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Probably because sports are such a focal point of our society and a source of role models for many kids, all while being perceived as being unaccepting of homosexuality as a part of the inherent macho culture.

michigancat · « **Reply #185 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:16:42 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 30, 2013, 01:10:46 PM

This is a fantastic thread.

But chalk me up as someone who is asking why this is such a big deal.

I guess I ask because for one reason or another I've been around quite a few gay people in my life. Neighbors, co-workers, customers, friends . . . and it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

it's a big deal because no one has done it before because of fear of being discriminated against. it's a sign of progress in society.

8manpick · « **Reply #186 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:17:23 PM »

Quote from: Kelly Stewart Creep on April 30, 2013, 01:16:14 PM

haven't been reading every single post in this thread because it got pretty stupid there for a minute but has anyone compared it to magic johnson yet? has magic said anything? i understand comparing hiv and homosexuality are for the most part different but their integration into the nba could be similar.

probably luked, but i like the talking point more than the stupid bible debate.

Are you saying aids is for the gays?

puniraptor · « **Reply #187 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:18:23 PM »

How many active nba players have aids??

But I get what you are saying. It was a secret mysterious plague of gay men before magic made it mainstream.

michigancat · « **Reply #188 on:** April 30, 2013, 01:22:32 PM »

Quote from: puniraptor on April 30, 2013, 01:13:15 PM

I think its a scheme. If he was currently on a roster or under contract he would still be closeted. He chose now because he is a undesirable free agent looking for a team. Now NBA teams will feel pressured to pick him up lest they be accused of bigotry.

still a big deal tho >>>>>

I was watching Charles and Kenny and Shaq and it was pretty funny/awkward. One recurring theme was them talking about how he was a shitty player. Also Shaq kept calling the 34 year old Collins a "great kid".

PoetWarrior · « **Reply #189 on:** April 30, 2013, 02:58:38 PM »

Is that it?

EllRobersonisInnocent · « **Reply #190 on:** April 30, 2013, 03:01:06 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on April 30, 2013, 02:58:38 PM

Is that it?

YES

star seed 7 · « **Reply #191 on:** April 30, 2013, 03:08:10 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on April 30, 2013, 02:58:38 PM

Is that it?

did you get educated on the bible?

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #192 on:** April 30, 2013, 03:09:26 PM »

From a religious standpoint, there is a piece of the catechism that states that addiction to a certain sin is different than just committing the sin because addiction somehow takes the free will away from just a normal sin. So even if you DO believe that homosexuality is a sin, and that those people are choosing to sin, wouldn't a homosexual be addicted to that "sin"? So if you're called to pray for those struggling with their addictions, wouldn't homosexuals be included? This is why I don't get people who cite religion as the reason they hate homosexuals.