First Openly Gay Athlete (in a major sport)

[8manpick]

DNR last 80 posts, but I've long known that poetwarrior was a piece of crap

[fun muffin]

I'm sorry I don't see the Gospel message in what you posted.  Not even a little bit.

The basic Gospel message is that man is sinful.  Therefore separated from God, who hates sin.  God still loves people so much that He sent His Son to die on the cross for us.  Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death and sin.  Jesus is a gift, should we choose to accept Him.  All we have to do to accept the gift of Jesus is turn from our sin (repent) and trust in Jesus.  Living our lives after His example.  That is the Gospel.

No you bigot, that is what you want the bible and gospel to believe. 

I believe in the works of Christ the liberal who wore sandals and hung out with whores. 

Get out of here with your interpretations of Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, and Sola Scriptura.

ednksu, that's what the Bible clearly states as the Gospel message.  Basic, fundamental passages such as John 3:16, Romans 6:23, 1 John 2:2, Romans 5:8 all show how Christ died to save sinners.  Read those verses and tell me how that is not the Gospel.  How else do you interpret those verses?  There's now way of getting around it.  That's what the Bible clearly states and repeats as its main theme. 

And yes I believe Jesus hung out with whores.  He spent tons of time with sinners so that they would turn from their sinful ways and trust in Him (Matthew 9:9-12).
I'm not sure why you brought this up, but yea I believe this happened too.  Because He wanted to seek and save who was lost.

 

[fun muffin]

I'm going to tell my gay uncle and his life partner that Poetwarrior thinks they're going to rot in hell cause of "their life choices."

Only if they have sex, according to pw and fun muffin being gay is only about who you have sex with and nothing about who you are and who you love.

At the end of the day they are no different than people who take bible verses out of context to fit an agenda such as the evils of race mixing.

MIR, how on earth did you come to this conclusion when all i said was you are asking the wrong question?  You are putting words in my mouth that I never said. 

I will however, go on record with this statement on homosexuality:

I believe that God hates the sin of homosexuality, but does not hate the people who do this sin.  In fact he loves them, he loves them so much that he sent his Son to die for them.  If you are a person who struggles with opposite sex attraction, and have even committed homosexual acts I believe that you can still be Christian.  But only if that person is repenting of their sin (meaning the homosexual acts) and is pleading to Jesus to save them from their sin, and change from their sinful ways. 

For example, I am straight.  When I lust after a woman and mastrabate that is a sin.  God views my sin the exact same way as if a man lusted after a man.  The sins are equal in God's eyes.  Both sins separate us from God.  That is why, as I've said many times already and will continue to say until all of goEMAW hears, Jesus dies on the cross for our sin.  Jesus's death on the cross and resurrection reconciles us back to God.  He's a free gift, accept Him and live your life for Him.   

[puniraptor]

this thread just took a turn for the sexy

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

[8manpick]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

It truly is amazing

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

This thread makes me glad that PW rarely ever posts

[fun muffin]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

If you disregard the Bible then you must disregard Plato, Aristotle, and Homer. 

[Dugout DickStone]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

Meh.  People have their beliefs and are entitled to them.  I just take issue with the "this part of the Bible is the gospel and is god's word" or whatever but then make arguments that vast portions don't apply like the parts about slavery, no dinosaurs, young earth, no inter racial marriage, cutting off hands, stoning peole to death, polyester, mensturating women being unclean etc.  I mean, its all in the same book which was all written by men.  If you try and pick and choose parts you like to apply as some law, and exclude the crazy parts, you are a massive hypocrite.

[MakeItRain]

The whole conversion about what individuals think about homosexuality is dumb and I'm pissed I participated in it. Like panjandrum said yesterday was historic. What individuals think about homosexuality is irrelevant. The bottom line is that civil rights afforded to heterosexuals are being afforded to homosexuals however slow its happening and those with a problem have to

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

If you disregard the Bible then you must disregard Plato, Aristotle, and Homer.

Those sound made up

[AbeFroman]

Imagine how many people throughout history would have been openly gay had it been more socially acceptable like it is these days.

A couple presidents (and a first lady), at least 1 pope, all of ancient Greece, pretty much every historical conqueror was at the very least bisexual. It would blow every Christian's mind.

Homosexuality is natural and not a choice.

[lopakman]

Dumbasses justifying their bigoted views with a magical book 

If you disregard the Bible then you must disregard Plato, Aristotle, and Homer.

Do NOT bring the motherfucking Simpsons into this argument.  All Homer wants to do is drink some cold Duff beer and drunkenly bang Marge (his wife.)  He is emaw.

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah, I have a Christian mindset, but I also don't believe everything in the Bible. I think it's cult like not to question certain things. It is not a choice, like Abe said, it's natural. My uncle has really opened my eyes on this issue and it's a shame there are still do many blind individuals out there on this topic.

[michigancat]

I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally. Just saying they don't like homosexuality is totally their right.

That being said, the "why don't these so-called tolerant people respect MY beliefs?" argument us equally hilarious and stupid.

[scottwildcat]

I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally. Just saying they don't like homosexuality is totally their right.

That being said, the "why don't these so-called tolerant people respect MY beliefs?" argument us equally hilarious and stupid.

So you shouldn't have to respect people's beliefs if they don't line up with yours? Or is this directed at the extremist touting off that everyone is going to hell?

[mocat]

I don't care if poet and muffin are bigots as long as they don't try to treat others unequally.

If they treat people equally are they bigots?

[joda]

 Even if you feel every passage of the bible should be taken literally ( and trust me if you do you're going to go crazy trying to keep up with all the contradictions) you just need to remember that the bible itself is actually just a collection of books that a small group of people decided they where going to pick and choose some to put together to push their own agenda

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Even if you feel every passage of the bible should be taken literally ( and trust me if you do you're going to go crazy trying to keep up with all the contradictions) you just need to remember that the bible itself is actually just a collection of books that a small group of people decided they where going to pick and choose some to put together to push their own agenda

 

[_33]

This thread makes me glad that PW rarely ever posts

Shut up about poetwarrior, you dipshit.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

This thread makes me glad that PW rarely ever posts

Shut up about poetwarrior, you dipshit.

 

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

DNR last 80 posts, but I've long known that poetwarrior was a piece of crap

really? just figured that out in this thread. just glad im hip with it now.

[EMAWmeister]

Even if you feel every passage of the bible should be taken literally ( and trust me if you do you're going to go crazy trying to keep up with all the contradictions) you just need to remember that the bible itself is actually just a collection of books that a small group of people decided they where going to pick and choose some to put together to push their own agenda

This is why Catholics have a catechism, which at least applies to life more than parables about a 40 year flood.

[Dugout DickStone]

DNR last 80 posts, but I've long known that poetwarrior was a piece of crap

really? just figured that out in this thread. just glad im hip with it now.

PW is a decent person, we have crushed some beers together.  I think PW just got a bit lost recently and started getting a little extreme.

[Dr Rick Daris]

poet warrior is and always has been a truly terrible poster. it's weird that people don't already know this. also, nothing he's done in this thread should sway your opinion on his posting skills. they were actually borderline ok here.