First Openly Gay Athlete (in a major sport)

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Make up a part where Jesus is an eagle please.

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hey muffin and PW how do you guys feel about OWNING SLAVES!!!!!11!!!!11!!!11

I don't think they will answer questions of this nature. I asked them about interracial relationships and shaving their beards and I've yet to hear a response.

Both Poetwarrior and I said there is no evidence in the Bible that prohibits interracial relationships.

There's no evidence in the bible of condemnation of homosexuality either but, like with interracial relationships, hell even people of different races interacting, some cite scripture to defend their personal stances.

The bible absolutely states that you cannot shave your beard but I'm guessing that hasn't stopped you and the bible scholar poet warrior from doing so.

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

This verse is follow up to Romans 1:26-28 - "...and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them," (Rom. 1:32).

Genesis 1:28, Homosexuality cannot carry out God's command to subdue the earth.

I'm not sure who's version of the bible you're using. But first of all the word homosexual was not used before 1892 so God didn't say anything about "homosexuals." The word homosexual does not appear in King James version of the bible, the most widely accepted version. So whatever you are using is some perverse interpretation. For instance in your first verse, the word that appears in the KJV is "effeminate." There are effeminate heterosexuals, so I'm not sure how effeminate equals homosexual.

Also every version of Genesis 1:28 reads: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. It's actually one of the most quoted verses in the bible, I'm not sure how you thought you could pass off some Westboro Baptist Church interpretation as real, shame on you fun muffin.

Sorry for the miscommunication on Genesis 1:28.  I was merely saying how homosexuality can't fulfill the command of that verse.  Of course I don't believe that's what the verse says.  My Bible (ESV) says essentially what yours says.  Also ESV is a highly regarded Bible and commonly used worldwide.

And since you like this version, here is King James for Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Seems to me that the King James version agrees with the ESV that burning with lust toward a member of the same sex is frowned upon by the Bible.

I don't go to Westboro, I go to your standard Evangelical church that is common in this country.

 Miscommunication = overt lie

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hey muffin and PW how do you guys feel about OWNING SLAVES!!!!!11!!!!11!!!11

I don't think they will answer questions of this nature. I asked them about interracial relationships and shaving their beards and I've yet to hear a response.

Both Poetwarrior and I said there is no evidence in the Bible that prohibits interracial relationships.

There's no evidence in the bible of condemnation of homosexuality either but, like with interracial relationships, hell even people of different races interacting, some cite scripture to defend their personal stances.

The bible absolutely states that you cannot shave your beard but I'm guessing that hasn't stopped you and the bible scholar poet warrior from doing so.

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

This verse is follow up to Romans 1:26-28 - "...and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them," (Rom. 1:32).

Genesis 1:28, Homosexuality cannot carry out God's command to subdue the earth.

I'm not sure who's version of the bible you're using. But first of all the word homosexual was not used before 1892 so God didn't say anything about "homosexuals." The word homosexual does not appear in King James version of the bible, the most widely accepted version. So whatever you are using is some perverse interpretation. For instance in your first verse, the word that appears in the KJV is "effeminate." There are effeminate heterosexuals, so I'm not sure how effeminate equals homosexual.

Also every version of Genesis 1:28 reads: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. It's actually one of the most quoted verses in the bible, I'm not sure how you thought you could pass off some Westboro Baptist Church interpretation as real, shame on you fun muffin.

Sorry for the miscommunication on Genesis 1:28.  I was merely saying how homosexuality can't fulfill the command of that verse.  Of course I don't believe that's what the verse says.  My Bible (ESV) says essentially what yours says.  Also ESV is a highly regarded Bible and commonly used worldwide.

And since you like this version, here is King James for Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Seems to me that the King James version agrees with the ESV that burning with lust toward a member of the same sex is frowned upon by the Bible.

I don't go to Westboro, I go to your standard Evangelical church that is common in this country.

 Miscommunication = overt lie

if you are so smart limestone, tell me how homosexuality, which can't make babies, fulfills the command to multiply and subdue the earth.  it's common sense. 

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Infertile people are going to hell.

Source: the bible

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Common sense = stretching, twisting, manipulating the bible until it says I can hate gays

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fertile people who can't get a date: hell

source: bible

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Priests who never marry or have kids?  Hell

Source = a part of the bible I choose

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Infertile people are going to hell.

Source: the bible

ha! you crack me up limestone,

the only people that go to hell, are the ones who don't repent of their sin and trust in Jesus.

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Infertile people are going to hell.

Source: the bible

ha! you crack me up limestone,

the only people that go to hell, are the ones who don't repent of their sin and trust in Jesus.

So having uterine cancer and having a hysterectomy is a sin that requires repentance

Source:  the good book

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i have asked several times for someone to tell me how the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality, and no one has.

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So if a gay guy has a kid he is clear?

Can you lie about a bible verse again?

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The earth has been subdued for quite some time now.   Phase II: ruin it and keep hating gays.

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Send me the verse that says homosexuality is a sin.





Chirp chirp

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So if a gay guy has a kid he is clear?

Can you lie about a bible verse again?

i'm using common sense.  if everyone were gay, the human race would die off.  very quickly.  therefore, the world cannot me subdued.

[fun muffin]

Send me the verse that says homosexuality is a sin.





Chirp chirp

1 Cor. 6:9, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." (NASB, ESV, NIV, )

1 Tim. 1:10, "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted." (NASB, ESV)

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So if a gay guy has a kid he is clear?

Can you lie about a bible verse again?

i'm using common sense.  if everyone were gay, the human race would die off.  very quickly.  therefore, the world cannot me subdued.

Well that doesn't mean it's a sin at all.  Not even close.  Is that really your lone verse?

That's pretty shaky ground to base that much bigotry

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i posted multiple verses on this throughout the thread.  there are two more above your post.

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They are made up verses champ.  You are adding words to fit your agenda

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Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of 1 Corinthians 6:9.


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

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also the new testament was written in Greek.  feel free to do a word study on the word homosexual in the ESV, NASB, or NIV bibles.  You probably won't like what you find.

for those who don't know, a word study is understanding how our English bibles have been transcribed from the Greek.

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Why do you want so badly for the bible to say being gay is a sin when it obviously doesn't?  I mean, why try and force it?

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Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:26-28

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Why do you want so badly for the bible to say being gay is a sin when it obviously doesn't?  I mean, why try and force it?

Because the Bible clearly condemns it, but by all means, feel free to stick your head in the sand.

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Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of 1 Corinthians 6:9.


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Limestone, do you even know what abusers of themselves with mankind is?

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I mean, you desperately want it to say what just doesn't.  You don't need an excuse to hate gay people so why try so hard to find one?