one year delayed, eh cap'n?

[pissclams]

also, cap, you are the closest thing to a phone to the AD this site has. some of the posters will choose to lash out at your for it. I appreciate your input very much.

Yes, I agree. Same thing happens any time something bad happens. I get it, people are upset. I will try to give info when I can.

How is this player revolt different than the threatened (not confirmed) defections Frank faced at the end of last season? 

because, there is/was no player revolt.

[Dugout DickStone]

also, cap, you are the closest thing to a phone to the AD this site has. some of the posters will choose to lash out at your for it. I appreciate your input very much.

Yes, I agree. Same thing happens any time something bad happens. I get it, people are upset. I will try to give info when I can.

How is this player revolt different than the threatened (not confirmed) defections Frank faced at the end of last season? 

because, there is/was no player revolt.

Now or at the end of last season?

[pissclams]

you pick

[kso_FAN]

also, cap, you are the closest thing to a phone to the AD this site has. some of the posters will choose to lash out at your for it. I appreciate your input very much.

Yes, I agree. Same thing happens any time something bad happens. I get it, people are upset. I will try to give info when I can.

How is this player revolt different than the threatened (not confirmed) defections Frank faced at the end of last season? 

because, there is/was no player revolt.

Now or at the end of last season?

As far as we know, Angel/Diaz/Orris or their parents weren't whining to the AD. Or they weren't likely whining as loudly.

[chum1]

The whole point of this thread is dumb because the question posed is:  given that defections were supposed to be very bad last year, how can they be a good thing this year?  To which, one can simply answer that they aren't good this year either.

[captaincrap]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

[OK_Cat]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

phew!  good thing we got that worked out.

[Stupid Fitz]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

phew!  good thing we got that worked out.

Yes, exactly as planned.  Now we have a shitty coach and shitty players. 

[Dugout DickStone]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

How is it not an issue this year?  Seems like a pretty inconsistent position. 

[pissclams]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

a:  there was no revolt this year, i'm not sure why lsoc keeps referring to one. 
b:  there was no revolt last year, i'm not sure why CC keeps referring to one.

[captaincrap]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

How is it not an issue this year?  Seems like a pretty inconsistent position.

Not sure what you mean. 3 players have indicated transfer plans this spring, 2 for family reasons and 1 for PT. 2 of the players rarely saw action.

Last spring many more than 3 had indicated transfer plans, each for the same reason, and it wasn't location or PT.

The two situations are not at all similar.

[captaincrap]

b:  there was no revolt last year, i'm not sure why CC keeps referring to one.

Because it's reality

[steve dave]

I believe there would have been players leave because of Frank. I know Spradling would have. Guessing Nino would have been another. Would like to know who the others were.

[Dugout DickStone]

I believe there would have been players leave because of Frank. I know Spradling would have. Guessing Nino would have been another. Would like to know who the others were.

Not Angel

[slucat]

I believe there would have been players leave because of Frank. I know Spradling would have. Guessing Nino would have been another. Would like to know who the others were.

Rod, JO? 

Can we get three more?

[chum1]

Players leaving was part of Frank's SOP.

[michigancat]

Players leaving was part of Frank's SOP.

but never the good one, ya know? I guess Judge maybe.

[steve dave]

Players leaving was part of Frank's SOP.

but never the good one, ya know? I guess Judge maybe.

Sutton was a starter, not the best starter obv.

[michigancat]

Players leaving was part of Frank's SOP.

but never the good one, ya know? I guess Judge maybe.

Sutton was a starter, not the best starter obv.

oh yeah. forgot about him.

[Dugout DickStone]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

How is it not an issue this year?  Seems like a pretty inconsistent position.

Not sure what you mean. 3 players have indicated transfer plans this spring, 2 for family reasons and 1 for PT. 2 of the players rarely saw action.

Last spring many more than 3 had indicated transfer plans, each for the same reason, and it wasn't location or PT.

The two situations are not at all similar.

I agree that the situations are different.  last year was some extremely marginal players who can be replaced only threatening to leave if they had to play for the coach who recruited them and this year is the actual loss of a All Big 2nd PG.  So the difference is kind of not relevant except it illustrates a textbook example of the opposite way to handle a situation.

 
What can we do to stop the talented players hemmoraging from our program right now?

[Mr Bread]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

How is it not an issue this year?  Seems like a pretty inconsistent position.

Not sure what you mean. 3 players have indicated transfer plans this spring, 2 for family reasons and 1 for PT. 2 of the players rarely saw action.

Last spring many more than 3 had indicated transfer plans, each for the same reason, and it wasn't location or PT.

The two situations are not at all similar.

I agree that the situations are different.  last year was some extremely marginal players who can be replaced only threatening to leave if they had to play for the coach who recruited them and this year is the actual loss of a All Big 2nd PG.  So the difference is kind of not relevant except it illustrates a textbook example of the opposite way to handle a situation.

 
What can we do to stop the talented players hemmoraging from our program right now?

Run out of talented players. 

[Dugout DickStone]

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As I have said before, there very much was an issue last spring with many players indicating they were not coming back due to the head coach.

How is it not an issue this year?  Seems like a pretty inconsistent position.

Not sure what you mean. 3 players have indicated transfer plans this spring, 2 for family reasons and 1 for PT. 2 of the players rarely saw action.

Last spring many more than 3 had indicated transfer plans, each for the same reason, and it wasn't location or PT.

The two situations are not at all similar.

I agree that the situations are different.  last year was some extremely marginal players who can be replaced only threatening to leave if they had to play for the coach who recruited them and this year is the actual loss of a All Big 2nd PG.  So the difference is kind of not relevant except it illustrates a textbook example of the opposite way to handle a situation.

 
What can we do to stop the talented players hemmoraging from our program right now?

Run out of talented players.

Or just run out of fans who give a eff

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Someone should refer Orris and Diaz to this thread.  I'm sure they'd like to read all the nice things being said about them.

[steve dave]

Someone should refer Orris and Diaz to this thread.  I'm sure they'd like to read all the nice things being said about them.

did you see Orris' "LOL" tweet yesterday when the Angel meltdown hit twitter? 

[Dugout DickStone]

Someone should refer Orris and Diaz to this thread.  I'm sure they'd like to read all the nice things being said about them.

did you see Orris' "LOL" tweet yesterday when the Angel meltdown hit twitter? 

spunky tweet