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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1050 on: May 08, 2014, 02:53:08 PM »
She signed a NLI which is binding for one full academic year (two full time semesters). It's a contract binding you to an institution. She signed the contract, K-State paid for a year of her education and for her to play basketball. Completely reasonable for K-State to not release her. She signed the agreement, end of story.

But, apparently Jay Bilas and all these other dumb asses don't think there should be any accountability on the part of the student.

You seem like you have a firm grasp on the issue.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1051 on: May 08, 2014, 02:55:10 PM »
she went to school for two semesters and played basketball :confused:

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1052 on: May 08, 2014, 03:07:54 PM »
She signed a NLI which is binding for one full academic year (two full time semesters). It's a contract binding you to an institution. She signed the contract, K-State paid for a year of her education and for her to play basketball. Completely reasonable for K-State to not release her. She signed the agreement, end of story.

But, apparently Jay Bilas and all these other dumb asses don't think there should be any accountability on the part of the student.

Thanks for clearing that up, Kenny Lannou

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1053 on: May 08, 2014, 03:38:18 PM »
She signed a NLI which is binding for one full academic year (two full time semesters). It's a contract binding you to an institution. She signed the contract, K-State paid for a year of her education and for her to play basketball. Completely reasonable for K-State to not release her. She signed the agreement, end of story.

But, apparently Jay Bilas and all these other dumb asses don't think there should be any accountability on the part of the student.

Thanks for clearing that up, Kenny Lannou

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1054 on: May 08, 2014, 03:45:35 PM »
She signed a NLI which is binding for one full academic year (two full time semesters). It's a contract binding you to an institution. She signed the contract, K-State paid for a year of her education and for her to play basketball. Completely reasonable for K-State to not release her. She signed the agreement, end of story.

But, apparently Jay Bilas and all these other dumb asses don't think there should be any accountability on the part of the student.

Wait, did you post this because you don't know the academic year goes from August-early May? Did you think she was going to leave last week or something? Bad look for Arch E majors and grads, yikes.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1055 on: May 08, 2014, 04:05:49 PM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1056 on: May 08, 2014, 04:07:36 PM »
some tampering cat burgler was sneaking into the KSU house but KSU was on red alert and heard them coming. KSU stepped out of bed, winked at the sleeping wife like a complete stud in control of the situation, grabbed their biggest gun stashed in the night stand for this very situation, and confidently blew their own dick off.


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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1057 on: May 08, 2014, 04:09:02 PM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

Stuff got lost in translation.  Once we got a competent translator on board instead of the dumbfuck she brought from Spain or wherever, it was all clear and of course we released her.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1058 on: May 08, 2014, 04:37:22 PM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

Stuff got lost in translation.  Once we got a competent translator on board instead of the dumbfuck she brought from Spain or wherever, it was all clear and of course we released her.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1059 on: May 08, 2014, 09:00:44 PM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

No. But really for 99.9% of the people reading these stories their concern/fury/condemnation ends about 47 seconds after they've read what has happened. My chief concern as far as our PR goes is that we made public that we have a policy of not granting releases and that can be used against us. Contrary to what some may say on here it is incredibly rare for a school to make public that they have a policy of not granting releases. It was a colossal blunder that can only be fixed by publicly announcing a change in policy. It is astounding that the policy wasn't stated that releases will be granted on a case by case basis.

For the few people that actually care about Leti if/when she gets released people like me will say good for Leti but K-State still screwed up. If she gets released it won't get anywhere near the publicity that this has, zero chance that her release will garner a follow up on Slate.   

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1060 on: May 08, 2014, 09:36:22 PM »
I feel like Debs overt sociopathy and manipulative nature has been ignored in this whole discussion. If the AD mumped up anywhere, it's not in the reactionary posture it's taken with Leti (again, wgaf), it's not firing Deb years ago, or, more appealing to me, exposing her for the sub-human she is in this whole mess.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1061 on: May 09, 2014, 10:19:04 AM »
When did Dax become such a conformist lemming for the K-State athletic department?  From "disassociated" to "knee jerk apologist."  Sad, really.

I see all your stuff over on the phog Beems.  You're the very definition of a ku propagandist.  You're a walking, talking, typing ku glossy brochure who touts the ku party line at every possible opportunity . . . with thousands of posts on a K-State bulletin board no less.  You're the last effing person to start referencing anybody else as an apologist.   

MIR keeps talking about the team APR score, or individual academic accolades.  All of which is completely irrelevant to this discussion.   Individual student athletes make up the APR composite.   Why should K-State potentially (Possibly, maybe) take an APR hit because one player wanted a transfer (possibly as part of a package deal) 12 minutes after the previous staff got fired?   Reasonable question. 

Why should K-State just immediately acquiesce to the transfer demands of a current player who may have been part of a tampering situation?  Yet another reasonable question.

 



 

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1062 on: May 09, 2014, 10:23:56 AM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

No. But really for 99.9% of the people reading these stories their concern/fury/condemnation ends about 47 seconds after they've read what has happened. My chief concern as far as our PR goes is that we made public that we have a policy of not granting releases and that can be used against us. Contrary to what some may say on here it is incredibly rare for a school to make public that they have a policy of not granting releases. It was a colossal blunder that can only be fixed by publicly announcing a change in policy. It is astounding that the policy wasn't stated that releases will be granted on a case by case basis.

For the few people that actually care about Leti if/when she gets released people like me will say good for Leti but K-State still screwed up. If she gets released it won't get anywhere near the publicity that this has, zero chance that her release will garner a follow up on Slate.

Jay will say that he got her the release and that he is a super stud student athlete advocate!  And all athletes will look at him like  :love:

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1063 on: May 09, 2014, 10:42:28 AM »
I feel like Debs overt sociopathy and manipulative nature has been ignored in this whole discussion. If the AD mumped up anywhere, it's not in the reactionary posture it's taken with Leti (again, wgaf), it's not firing Deb years ago, or, more appealing to me, exposing her for the sub-human she is in this whole mess.

Agreed, but Currie was too busy taking care of "the sports that matter"

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1064 on: May 10, 2014, 12:29:14 AM »
One thing that the slate article brings up is an important element of the student athlete experience.  You have contractual situations, as ArchE_Cat described, that have certain obligations associated with them.  There are exemptions, but to fully realize those aspects requires someone with some degree of specialization.  One half of the contract (Atheletic dept.) has salary employees to meet those demands however the other is contractually obligated to not have the means to have matching representation.

I think, that the NCAA either needs to require member institutions to supply funding for some sort of player advocate service that could provide such counsel, or treat players more as at will-employees, capable of making their own decisions.  I think the latter is a would be a better use of resources, but athletic departments that treat players like property might have trouble swallowing it.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1065 on: May 10, 2014, 01:10:25 AM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

No. But really for 99.9% of the people reading these stories their concern/fury/condemnation ends about 47 seconds after they've read what has happened. My chief concern as far as our PR goes is that we made public that we have a policy of not granting releases and that can be used against us. Contrary to what some may say on here it is incredibly rare for a school to make public that they have a policy of not granting releases. It was a colossal blunder that can only be fixed by publicly announcing a change in policy. It is astounding that the policy wasn't stated that releases will be granted on a case by case basis.

For the few people that actually care about Leti if/when she gets released people like me will say good for Leti but K-State still screwed up. If she gets released it won't get anywhere near the publicity that this has, zero chance that her release will garner a follow up on Slate.

Jay will say that he got her the release and that he is a super stud student athlete advocate!  And all athletes will look at him like  :love:

Jay is all about $.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1066 on: May 10, 2014, 01:41:01 AM »
MIR, or other High Crisis Manager Experts in residence,  is there any BS story Currie could concoct at this time to put out after we release her that would ameliorate some of the damage  :pray:?  Put your selves in the imaginary position of trusted adviser/mentor Godfather style of JC.

No. But really for 99.9% of the people reading these stories their concern/fury/condemnation ends about 47 seconds after they've read what has happened. My chief concern as far as our PR goes is that we made public that we have a policy of not granting releases and that can be used against us. Contrary to what some may say on here it is incredibly rare for a school to make public that they have a policy of not granting releases. It was a colossal blunder that can only be fixed by publicly announcing a change in policy. It is astounding that the policy wasn't stated that releases will be granted on a case by case basis.

For the few people that actually care about Leti if/when she gets released people like me will say good for Leti but K-State still screwed up. If she gets released it won't get anywhere near the publicity that this has, zero chance that her release will garner a follow up on Slate.

Jay will say that he got her the release and that he is a super stud student athlete advocate!  And all athletes will look at him like  :love:

Jay is all about $.
i think if the last word in the story is "that we granted her a release" we shouldn't have any lingering problems with recruitment in other sports.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1067 on: May 10, 2014, 03:03:09 PM »
Watching the draft, the cb pierre desir from st louis was originally playing at washburn.  Washburn refused to release Pierre because he wanted to transfer to be closer to home and his daughter.  ESPN was saying something about working multiple jobs and some kind of sewer work (?)  Just thought that is was interesting that this happens in lower divisions.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1068 on: May 11, 2014, 06:27:31 PM »
Watching the draft, the cb pierre desir from st louis was originally playing at washburn.  Washburn refused to release Pierre because he wanted to transfer to be closer to home and his daughter.  ESPN was saying something about working multiple jobs and some kind of sewer work (?)  Just thought that is was interesting that this happens in lower divisions.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1069 on: May 12, 2014, 01:30:42 PM »
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Strongly recommend this story about Kansas State's shameful treatment of a women's basketball player. http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10893110/women-college-basketball-controversy-swirls-leticia-romero-denied-transfer-kansas-state-wildcats

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John Currie is a very good AD. He needs to do the right thing and give Romero her release. Today. One of the worst rules in NCAA rule book.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1070 on: May 12, 2014, 04:37:48 PM »
Sounds like Deb and Shalee are going to Northern Colorado to join Ethridge's staff.  Doubt Romero wants to play there.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1071 on: May 12, 2014, 04:55:12 PM »
Just block Northern Colorado and release her for Christ's sake. 

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1072 on: May 12, 2014, 04:56:34 PM »
Just block Northern Colorado and release her for Christ's sake.

that is what is going to happen by the end of next week.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1073 on: May 12, 2014, 05:19:59 PM »
Do we really give a crap if she goes to NORTHERN COLORADO? I mean really.

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Re: one year delayed, eh cap'n?
« Reply #1074 on: May 12, 2014, 05:23:35 PM »
Do we really give a crap if she goes to NORTHERN COLORADO? I mean really.

Exactly I mean if she likes those coaches well enough to follow them there than so be it.  They obviously didn't use her as leveridge to land those jobs.