one year delayed, eh cap'n?

[captaincrap]

Did the Angel comment ever get clarified?

No. From what I have gathered in this thread and on twitter, the investigation is ongoing and headed by Trim

  It has been clarified.

[michigancat]

You know, I had forgotten about the Manase Foketi situation.  I also find it funny how a kid from California who wanted to transfer "closer to home" ended up at West Texas A&M. 

it's about 8 hours closer to his home

[captaincrap]

So are there rules in place against "tampering" or not?

yes.

[_33]

This thread really separates the independent thinkers from the KSU fanboy conformists.

You're reading this thread?  What is wrong with you?

[michigancat]

So are there rules in place against "tampering" or not?

yes.

So why does KSU need to get involved? Let the NCAA take care of monitoring tampering.

[MakeItRain]

Be gentle Jay.

John Currie ?@John_Currie 46s

Looking forward to sitting down w @jaybilas this AM. National transfer issues are complex/need reform... (Cont'd)

John Currie ?@John_Currie  11m
Generally speaking, on RARE occasions that we have denied a student-athlete transfer release... (Cont'd)

John Currie ?@John_Currie  10m
It has been because of concerns about outside tampering, undue influence by third parties... (Cont'd)

John Currie ?@John_Currie  9m
or procedures not being followed in an honest and forthright manner.

Man the damage is done, just move on. I am one who obviously vehemently disagrees with what we're doing in this case and our policy, but I feel this is best served with us letting it go. There is nothing Currie can say that will convince us that this is right. I'm not sure why he thinks what he has to say will convince anyone that student-athletes shouldn't be able to transfer whenever they want. Why can't he just let Bilas rant? Going back and forth about this is just keeping it afloat, I hope he doesn't say anything that ends up on ESPN.com

[MakeItRain]

This thread really separates the independent thinkers from the KSU fanboy conformists.

shut up

[captaincrap]

So are there rules in place against "tampering" or not?

yes.

So why does KSU need to get involved? Let the NCAA take care of monitoring tampering.

It is a K-State player. They are already involved. The investigation is ongoing, and once complete could be turned over to the NCAA.

[captaincrap]

No one is more surprised than me, but Fitz actually has accurate sources on this one. If you read his story on Romero, it spells out K-State's reasoning for the denial pretty clearly.

[theKSU]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

[michigancat]

So are there rules in place against "tampering" or not?

yes.

So why does KSU need to get involved? Let the NCAA take care of monitoring tampering.

It is a K-State player. They are already involved. The investigation is ongoing, and once complete could be turned over to the NCAA.

So what are they protecting? Let the player go, and if the NCAA finds the tampering allegations to be valid, they can handle the punishment, can't they?

[sonofdaxjones]

Wasn't it found that Deb had purchased laptops for players a few years ago? 

[theKSU]

We could also put a sign out on I-70 that says "come talk to our players and see if they'd like to play at your school!"

[hatingfrancisco]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

I do know for a fact that someone stumbled upon several trash bags of "stuff" thrown in a ditch somewhere that had belonged to Deb.  Said it was filled with all sorts of things, papers, laptop, other official stuff etc/

[eastcat]

Time to clean house. Let them all go and tell mittie to build his cat house ball club from the ground up. In the mean time let oscar Chet Chris and Fraise gang run the BTF as they please.

[TownieCat]

Time to clean house. Let them all go and tell mittie to build his cat house ball club from the ground up. In the mean time let oscar Chet Chris and Fraise gang run the BTF as they please.

 

[ydarg2012]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

  That is sad news.  I  Shalee Lehning

[captaincrap]

So what are they protecting? Let the player go, and if the NCAA finds the tampering allegations to be valid, they can handle the punishment, can't they?

They are protecting current and future K-State players. I think that's obvious.

[sonofdaxjones]

We could also put a sign out on I-70 that says "come talk to our players and see if they'd like to play at your school . . . and we aren't going to do anything about it!!"

FYP . . . I can't believe the stance by some.  Damage?  What kind of damage are you going to have on your hands if you send a clear and concise message to all the trash that's out there in the college coaching ranks that it's open season on your current players?

Oh, and one more time, saying it happens all the time is not a defensible position.

[WildcatNkilt]

Seems like a lot of butthurt from former regime, including Shalee. 

[scottwildcat]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

  That is sad news.  I  Shalee Lehning

well if everything Fitz is claiming is true, Lehning has her hands just as dirty as anyone.

[kso_FAN]

Fitz's column is free, FWIW. https://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1634056

[Shooter Jones]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

  That is sad news.  I  Shalee Lehning

well if everything Fitz is claiming is true, Lehning has her hands just as dirty as anyone.

drop her god damn tarp from the rafters and put up Jakes.

[WildcatNkilt]

Fitz is claiming the former regime has been "destroying records" on the way out (paper, e-mail, etc). He also said Mittie offered Shalee a job that she declined.

  That is sad news.  I  Shalee Lehning

well if everything Fitz is claiming is true, Lehning has her hands just as dirty as anyone.

drop her god damn tarp from the rafters and put up Jakes.

 

She's a traitor!  Get her! 

[kso_FAN]

Seems like a lot of butthurt from former regime, including Shalee. 

Yes, it sounds like Lehning (with a lot of help from Patterson) screwed this up (at least partially) with the manner in which they left. Plus if everyone (mainly Lehning and Romero) had just kept quiet and laid low until the release was granted, they'd be shopping their services right now. I think its reasonable to assume they made their connection in trying to find another school so obvious that K-State was forced to do something about it (or at least they felt they were).