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I do think it's funny that Conservatives still think a single kid praying by himself or herself in school is illegal.

I'm honestly pretty surprised that Kansas hasn't passed a law explicitly saying that it is legal. Then again, we might have. :dunno:

very surprised myself.  I mean, we passed a law stating that Sharia law couldn't be used in our courts.

Three things:
1. Passing a law banning sharia law should be viewed as pro-gay.

2. Nobody thinks praying in school is illegal. Leftists constantly whine about all things god related being in school in any form. That is indisputable.

3. If you actually believe a Meme posted on Facebook is demonstrative of an entire wing of the US political continuum, you are a rough ridin' dimwit and, for obvious reasons, shouldn't be on goEMAW.

I really enjoyed this FSD post

The sharia law thing was not about gay or anti-gay.  It is stupid because until the law of our land is sharia law, it is ridiculous to address it at all in our courts.

My point is that if KS will pass a law stating that some other law practiced outside of the us can't be used in the the US, it surprises me that KS hasn't passed other equally worthless legislation.

I think you are reading too much into ppl's take on these memes.  These aren't posted as proof that any party is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but that the ppl that pass them on thinking they are solid arguments are.


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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 01:23:06 PM »
I do think it's funny that Conservatives still think a single kid praying by himself or herself in school is illegal.

I'm honestly pretty surprised that Kansas hasn't passed a law explicitly saying that it is legal. Then again, we might have. :dunno:

very surprised myself.  I mean, we passed a law stating that Sharia law couldn't be used in our courts.

Three things:
1. Passing a law banning sharia law should be viewed as pro-gay.

2. Nobody thinks praying in school is illegal. Leftists constantly whine about all things god related being in school in any form. That is indisputable.

3. If you actually believe a Meme posted on Facebook is demonstrative of an entire wing of the US political continuum, you are a rough ridin' dimwit and, for obvious reasons, shouldn't be on goEMAW.

I really enjoyed this FSD post

The sharia law thing was not about gay or anti-gay.  It is stupid because until the law of our land is sharia law, it is ridiculous to address it at all in our courts.

My point is that if KS will pass a law stating that some other law practiced outside of the us can't be used in the the US, it surprises me that KS hasn't passed other equally worthless legislation.

I think you are reading too much into ppl's take on these memes.  These aren't posted as proof that any party is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but that the ppl that pass them on thinking they are solid arguments are.

Sorry, those comments were directed at all the tards above you, not you in particular.  And I don't think I'm reading too much into anything. The ironic part about this thread is that most of the people posting in it do take all of that stuff literally.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 04:27:20 PM »
I do think it's funny that Conservatives still think a single kid praying by himself or herself in school is illegal.

I'm honestly pretty surprised that Kansas hasn't passed a law explicitly saying that it is legal. Then again, we might have. :dunno:

very surprised myself.  I mean, we passed a law stating that Sharia law couldn't be used in our courts.

Three things:
1. Passing a law banning sharia law should be viewed as pro-gay.

2. Nobody thinks praying in school is illegal. Leftists constantly whine about all things god related being in school in any form. That is indisputable.

3. If you actually believe a Meme posted on Facebook is demonstrative of an entire wing of the US political continuum, you are a rough ridin' dimwit and, for obvious reasons, shouldn't be on goEMAW.

I really enjoyed this FSD post

The sharia law thing was not about gay or anti-gay.  It is stupid because until the law of our land is sharia law, it is ridiculous to address it at all in our courts.

My point is that if KS will pass a law stating that some other law practiced outside of the us can't be used in the the US, it surprises me that KS hasn't passed other equally worthless legislation.

I think you are reading too much into ppl's take on these memes.  These aren't posted as proof that any party is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but that the ppl that pass them on thinking they are solid arguments are.

Sorry, those comments were directed at all the tards above you, not you in particular.  And I don't think I'm reading too much into anything. The ironic part about this thread is that most of the people posting in it do take all of that stuff literally.
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Not taking anything serious here, just posting some of the more unbelievable posts I see.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 07:43:16 PM »


The comments that start "I can't believe [insert political affiliation who put said meme on FB] actually believes that" or I'm surprised Kansas hasn't already made [insert political position poster doesn't like] a law" is demonstrative of someone who "doesn't get this thread" and a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).


Sugar Dick is just Sugar Dickin this thread up for his own amusement.
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 11:03:40 PM »
FSD is the only person that REALLY knows what's going on in my thread guys

I don't think you understand how important I am to the Pit. Also, dumb post
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2013, 12:04:31 AM »
These types of arguments are my favorite.  It would be like telling Abraham Lincoln that he should not try and change people's minds of slavery because doing so is being intolerant of their views.  Makes no sense.

Then you're missing the point.

The people who like to beat the drum about how tolerant they are, seem to not be so when it comes to actually being confronted by opposing opinions. In other words, they're not tolerant in any way, shape, or form beyond what anyone else is. And no one else is drum beating about how supposedly tolerant they are but lefties.

The point: They're not so tolerant. Much like any ideologues, they accept one view. Gutfield is pointing out the irony of the first sentence.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2013, 02:04:36 PM »
These types of arguments are my favorite.  It would be like telling Abraham Lincoln that he should not try and change people's minds of slavery because doing so is being intolerant of their views.  Makes no sense.

Then you're missing the point.

The people who like to beat the drum about how tolerant they are, seem to not be so when it comes to actually being confronted by opposing opinions. In other words, they're not tolerant in any way, shape, or form beyond what anyone else is. And no one else is drum beating about how supposedly tolerant they are but lefties.

The point: They're not so tolerant. Much like any ideologues, they accept one view. Gutfield is pointing out the irony of the first sentence.

being tolerant of intolerant opinions would basically make you intolerant as well.

quite the pickle.
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2013, 03:18:57 PM »
Whose opinion of "intolerant"?  A decidedly unimportant nuance that proves goldbrick's point
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2013, 03:50:19 PM »
These types of arguments are my favorite.  It would be like telling Abraham Lincoln that he should not try and change people's minds of slavery because doing so is being intolerant of their views.  Makes no sense.

Then you're missing the point.

The people who like to beat the drum about how tolerant they are, seem to not be so when it comes to actually being confronted by opposing opinions. In other words, they're not tolerant in any way, shape, or form beyond what anyone else is. And no one else is drum beating about how supposedly tolerant they are but lefties.

The point: They're not so tolerant. Much like any ideologues, they accept one view. Gutfield is pointing out the irony of the first sentence.

being tolerant of intolerant opinions would basically make you intolerant as well.

quite the pickle.

Conservatives and Libertarians don't tout their supposed enlightened tolerant qualities as lefties do.

Thats the difference.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2013, 06:51:45 PM »
These types of arguments are my favorite.  It would be like telling Abraham Lincoln that he should not try and change people's minds of slavery because doing so is being intolerant of their views.  Makes no sense.

Then you're missing the point.

The people who like to beat the drum about how tolerant they are, seem to not be so when it comes to actually being confronted by opposing opinions. In other words, they're not tolerant in any way, shape, or form beyond what anyone else is. And no one else is drum beating about how supposedly tolerant they are but lefties.

The point: They're not so tolerant. Much like any ideologues, they accept one view. Gutfield is pointing out the irony of the first sentence.

being tolerant of intolerant opinions would basically make you intolerant as well.

quite the pickle.

Conservatives and Libertarians don't tout their supposed enlightened tolerant qualities as lefties do.

Thats the difference.

i didn't realize that being for equality between race, gender, and sexual orientation was so pompous.
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2013, 09:45:13 PM »
These types of arguments are my favorite.  It would be like telling Abraham Lincoln that he should not try and change people's minds of slavery because doing so is being intolerant of their views.  Makes no sense.

Then you're missing the point.

The people who like to beat the drum about how tolerant they are, seem to not be so when it comes to actually being confronted by opposing opinions. In other words, they're not tolerant in any way, shape, or form beyond what anyone else is. And no one else is drum beating about how supposedly tolerant they are but lefties.

The point: They're not so tolerant. Much like any ideologues, they accept one view. Gutfield is pointing out the irony of the first sentence.

being tolerant of intolerant opinions would basically make you intolerant as well.

quite the pickle.

Conservatives and Libertarians don't tout their supposed enlightened tolerant qualities as lefties do.

Thats the difference.

i didn't realize that being for equality between race, gender, and sexual orientation was so pompous.

Again, strawman.

Lefties aren't any more tolerant than anyone else. Which is why calling out their self praise for their 'tolerance' makes sense, don'tcha think?

And thats not even touching on the neverending justifications for what we should be doing under the banner of 'equality'.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2013, 09:51:32 PM »
i'd be interested in what "tolerant qualities" the right has.
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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2013, 09:59:08 PM »
fsd, can you explain to your pal goldbrick that this isn't the thread for this type of nonsense.

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2013, 10:22:51 PM »
i'd be interested in what "tolerant qualities" the right has.

This will be generalizations as I see it but accurate in general in my opinion:

Lefties tend to see things through a racial or gender prism. When lefties think of minorities they think that its oppression of them that has led to their tendency to be low income, less success, higher crime, etc. In other words, they believe that the only way minorities can succeed is to end this oppression. That means whites (the oppressor) has to change something. By extension, minorities must be helpless to that fact. Top that with the constant equivocation of one aspect of human characteristics with another as being on the same moral level, the only differences between anyone in life must come in the form of bias or discrimination. They also define tolerance as not just putting up with your neighbor but showing dislike of your neighbors activities is a sign of bigotry/racism/homophobia etc.

Those on the right tend to put individual merit above all else, they don't factor in race nearly as much. The notion that minorities are in a worse state overall isn't a sign of oppression, its a sign of a lack of effort or repeatedly making bad decisions or a culture that doesn't emphasize the right values. That lefties tell minorities repeatedly that they are powerless is a detriment to minorities because that means they are absolved of having to try. They don't see all cultures as equally successful. The differences between people in life come from whether their decisions were sound or not. They define tolerance as putting up with your neighbor even if you hate his guts, disciplining them if you can, but not blowing them off the map.

I tend to agree with the right's outlook, obviously, not that there aren't problems with it. Racism does exist but its not as big of a problem as its made out to be. Some people do have a string of bad luck and some have it so much that they might need welfare, but I'm of the opinion that most people on welfare aren't having hard luck, they're trash individuals. The existence of successful minorities like asians flies in the face of the racism explanation.  And political correctness surrounding racial issues assures me the problems will never be recognized, let alone fixed. When blacks accuse other blacks of 'being white' because they got an education, dress respectfully, and speak eloquently I would think thats a problem, but can't talk about it without being accused of racism.

This is not a full spectrum view of what people believe, but I think I've adequately explained why the notion that one is more tolerant than the other is bogus.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2013, 10:24:26 PM »
fsd, can you explain to your pal goldbrick that this isn't the thread for this type of nonsense.

I don't see much going on in the last few pages but political discussion and political pictures being posted.

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Re: Re: Political Facebook Posts/Tweets From People
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2013, 06:29:16 AM »
EDIT: Thread got modded to a new thread, whereby making my post seem more stupid than normal.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2013, 12:40:11 PM »
The notion that minorities are in a worse state overall isn't a sign of oppression, its a sign of a lack of effort or repeatedly making bad decisions or a culture that doesn't emphasize the right values.

you're kind of a dumb racist piece of crap, aren't you? welcome to the New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit.

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2013, 01:39:14 PM »
The notion that minorities are in a worse state overall isn't a sign of oppression, its a sign of a lack of effort or repeatedly making bad decisions or a culture that doesn't emphasize the right values.

you're kind of a dumb racist piece of crap, aren't you? welcome to the New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit.

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When blacks accuse other blacks of 'being white' because they got an education, dress respectfully, and speak eloquently I would think thats a problem, but can't talk about it without being accused of racism.

Also, read the entirety of my post.

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2013, 02:07:59 PM »
Goldy you just stated you think blacks are culturally inferior to whites, and then tried to claim racism isn't a big deal today, and did so without detecting any irony in those positions. I'd also remind you that for centuries that train of thought was that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, used to justify slavery and later Jim Crow laws.

Goldy - how can blacks be treated fairly if you and numerous other whites think they are culturally inferior? How can a black person be treated fairly if they are automatically below whites from birth because of their "culture," ?

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Goldy you just stated you think blacks are culturally inferior to whites, and then tried to claim racism isn't a big deal today, and did so without detecting any irony in those positions. I'd also remind you that for centuries that train of thought was that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, used to justify slavery and later Jim Crow laws.

Goldy - how can blacks be treated fairly if you and numerous other whites think they are culturally inferior? How can a black person be treated fairly if they are automatically below whites from birth because of their "culture," ?

he didn't just blame cultural inferiority. he said sometimes it's plain old laziness.

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Goldy you just stated you think blacks are culturally inferior to whites, and then tried to claim racism isn't a big deal today, and did so without detecting any irony in those positions. I'd also remind you that for centuries that train of thought was that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, used to justify slavery and later Jim Crow laws.

Goldy - how can blacks be treated fairly if you and numerous other whites think they are culturally inferior? How can a black person be treated fairly if they are automatically below whites from birth because of their "culture," ?

he didn't just blame cultural inferiority. he said sometimes it's plain old laziness.

But isn't he still claiming his view is:

[White people & their culture] > [Black people & their culture]

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EDIT: Goldbrick can you clarify something for me - what is white culture in your opinion?
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2013, 02:46:00 PM »
At what point in time do people start deserving an equal opportunity?  Do we start it today?  Yesterday?  Since Obama was elected? 

Because 60 years ago black people were basically unable to live a middle class lifestyle and acquire common assets such as a house or insurance.  No one is suggesting that your grandparents give black people their house, but can we acknowledge that as a privilege you inherited and didn't earn?

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2013, 02:56:13 PM »
Goldy you just stated you think blacks are culturally inferior to whites, and then tried to claim racism isn't a big deal today, and did so without detecting any irony in those positions. I'd also remind you that for centuries that train of thought was that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, used to justify slavery and later Jim Crow laws.

Goldy - how can blacks be treated fairly if you and numerous other whites think they are culturally inferior? How can a black person be treated fairly if they are automatically below whites from birth because of their "culture," ?

I think you have a faulty definition of racism. I didn't say that blacks were inferior to whites, I said that a significant reason blacks are not doing as well as they could be is because of their own doing. Blacks can be treated fairly by treating them as human beings, the same way we should treat everybody. The notion that pointing out problems in cultures is somehow akin to damning that culture is what you seem to be advocating. Look at crime statistics:

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/press/htus8008pr.cfm

"Most murders were intraracial. From 1980 through 2008, 84 percent of white homicide victims were murdered by whites and 93 percent of black victims were murdered by blacks. During this same period, blacks were disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders. Blacks were six times more likely than whites to be homicide victims and seven times more likely than whites to commit homicide."

Am I supposed to believe that racism did this? Is this somehow a white problem? How do you fix a problem that people refuse to even talk about? Black leaders are actually the ones spearheading attempts to correct this but every time someone who is white brings up the same stuff its suddenly racist?

Here is a video of the Philadelphia mayor that raises the exact same issue:  


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Re: FSD and Goldy get into serious discussion about something or whatever
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2013, 03:06:07 PM »
Goldbrick do you think black people are naturally more inclined to violence then whites?

Do you think that, in a perfectly equal society, blacks will murder, rape, steal, and so on at a greater rate then whites?

If your answer is no, then perhaps you should be looking at other factors that lead people to a life of crime, and not think one of the reasons is because they are black.

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2013, 03:11:45 PM »
Racists don't realize how bad off things really were in the 50s