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Offline The Manhatter

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Strong
« on: March 24, 2013, 09:57:01 AM »
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Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 10:19:54 AM »
very excited about this one.

also, mark simoneau is the one holding the box in the jump video.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 10:24:47 AM »
skinny legs?  but nice rump.   :love:

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Re: Strong
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 10:41:19 AM »
very excited about this one.

also, mark simoneau is the one holding the box in the jump video.

I liked his smirk at the end of that video.
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Re: Strong
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 11:09:24 AM »
Is this not normal?

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Re: Strong
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2013, 11:27:44 AM »
Is this not normal?

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not sure if serious. a 60" vertical jump by that big of a dude?

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Re: Re: Strong
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2013, 11:31:21 AM »
Is this not normal?

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not sure if serious. a 60" vertical jump by that big of a dude?

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Re: Strong
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2013, 11:32:32 AM »
damnit

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Re: Strong
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 11:46:10 AM »
Is this not normal?

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not sure if serious. a 60" vertical jump by that big of a dude?

what Is It Really? 30"?
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Re: Strong
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 12:03:33 PM »
I thought the thing about Willis is that he has amazing numbers in the weightroom, he just looks like he wants nothing to do with contact on the field.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 12:04:33 PM »
I thought the thing about Willis is that he has amazing numbers in the weightroom, he just looks like he wants nothing to do with contact on the field.

yes. it would be nice to see some senior highlights because that was the case in his junior film.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 12:10:12 PM »
So he will be moved to lb and will dominate then, right? 

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Re: Strong
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 12:25:24 PM »
skinny legs?  but nice rump.   :love:

he doesn't have skinny legs but they are long.  A lot of big, long athletes with bulk look that way in shorts.  he doesn't look 255-260 until he gets on the scale.

don't think i didn't notice the rump.
Academics is a stupid word.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 12:27:29 PM »
Is this not normal?

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common amongst great athletes but not normal within the realm of average athletes.  there is a box jump of 55" by JJ Watt online and people go crazy about it.  Of course he's phenomenal and tested a 38" vertical at the combine.  Box jumps and dead lifts are measures of core strength and power...most identical to functional playing strength as you can get in the weight room.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 12:30:20 PM »
i don't get the physical comments.  he was 200lbs as a junior and had sat out football for a year.  Besides, he was more of a pass rusher.  People said the same things about Tuman (kid out of Liberal that went to Michigan) and Whitehair.  Those comments got buried under their play at the next level.  Sometimes that is an indication and sometimes it isn't.  Time will only tell.  But there is zero doubt about his abilities as a pass rusher.  I'm certain he will become a more physical player at the next level because it will be demanded of him.  He certainly will have the size and tools to do just that.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 12:30:44 PM »
'Hatter, if you had some health problems, glad you're feeling better.   :dance:
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Re: Strong
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 12:34:22 PM »
I'll add that a lot of people think football is just about kicking the ass of the guy across from you in dominating fashion and if you don't do that often then you're soft.  It depends on what assignments they may have when you're watching.  If a defensive end or, for that matter, any lineman on either side of the ball just fires off the ball and tries to destroy his man every play that can lead to things you don't want.  About the only place where that needs to occur on a regular basis is nose guard.  There is a lot of positioning and reading what the other side is doing before going into beast mode.  If a defensive end simply tries to maul the tackle every play the offense will use it against him.  So, in this case, if you see Willis (whose responsibility on a given play) is to extend the arms and read, then it might appear to you he is soft.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 12:35:28 PM »
'Hatter, if you had some health problems, glad you're feeling better.   :dance:

not at all...i've checked the board but have not had much time to spend on here recently.  I'm very healthy, actually.  but thanks.
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Re: Strong
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2013, 12:40:56 PM »
'Hatter, if you had some health problems, glad you're feeling better.   :dance:

not at all...i've checked the board but have not had much time to spend on here recently.  I'm very healthy, actually.  but thanks.

OK, I misinterpreted your original post then. 
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Re: Strong
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 01:48:27 PM »
That box jump.  Jesus Christ.

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Re: Strong
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 01:54:59 PM »
Yeah. Crazy.  Can't imagine the amount of time and work that goes into that. 

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Re: Strong
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 01:56:43 PM »
Thank Hatter, needed something positive to view  :)

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Re: Strong
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 02:02:50 PM »
wow  :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Strong
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 02:21:23 PM »
i don't get the physical comments.  he was 200lbs as a junior and had sat out football for a year.  Besides, he was more of a pass rusher.  People said the same things about Tuman (kid out of Liberal that went to Michigan) and Whitehair.  Those comments got buried under their play at the next level.  Sometimes that is an indication and sometimes it isn't.  Time will only tell.  But there is zero doubt about his abilities as a pass rusher.  I'm certain he will become a more physical player at the next level because it will be demanded of him.  He certainly will have the size and tools to do just that.

Who said this about Tuman?  He was a rough ridin' beast who punished people at the TE spot.  I played against him, watched film...it was frightening. 

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Re: Strong
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 11:55:46 PM »
Is this not normal?

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not sure if serious. a 60" vertical jump by that big of a dude?

what Is It Really? 30"?

The box was 60" off of the ground, but that is not how you measure a vertical jump. It's still pretty impressive, but his vertical is nowhere near 60". It's probably closer to 40".