Monsanto: A Great American Company

[felix rex]

tell them to do those purple potatos too.

On it. These Monsanto guys will have you growing purple potatoes the size of your head in a basement rock garden you can fumigate with that 50/50 mix of 245T and 24D your grandpa had stashed in the ol quonset out back in case of a bad season of thistles.

[Bloodfart]

RoundupReady Marijuana

[steve dave]

also tell them not to worry too much about kale because it needs to GTFOOMF already with its being in rough ridin' everything lately.

Dem er Fightin words SD!

  KALE 

I love Kale. I'm just rough ridin' done with it being on every menu 7 different ways.

[ChiComCat]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

[felix rex]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

That's like saying watch a movie about Arabs and they are all Palestinian. You know who makes movies? Well, not conservative farmers or Israelis.

But my god can you imagine if Monsanto made a movie?

[ChiComCat]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

That's like saying watch a movie about Arabs and they are all Palestinian. You know who makes movies? Well, not conservative farmers or Israelis.

But my god can you imagine if Monsanto made a movie?

Not vouching for the accuracy of the movies, but it will show some of the issues albeit one sidedly.  And lord knows that shitty food documentaries are getting produced by the hundred anymore

[felix rex]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

That's like saying watch a movie about Arabs and they are all Palestinian. You know who makes movies? Well, not conservative farmers or Israelis.

But my god can you imagine if Monsanto made a movie?

BTW, meant to say also that only Palestinian type farmers watch documentaries.

[Institutional Control]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

That's like saying watch a movie about Arabs and they are all Palestinian. You know who makes movies? Well, not conservative farmers or Israelis.


But my god can you imagine if Monsanto made a movie?

I was always under the impression that Israelis made all the movies.

[Bloodfart]

sounds like we need to have a MONSANTOPAK where you guys can explain to me wtf you're talking about in this thread because it sounds somewhat interesting.

also:  remember in the xfiles movie?  think about that one for a while.  hollywood has been on this stuff since day 1.

Watch any food documentary that focuses on farmers (not the ones that focus on how chickens die).  They are all full of MONSANTO!!!

That's like saying watch a movie about Arabs and they are all Palestinian. You know who makes movies? Well, not conservative farmers or Israelis.

But my god can you imagine if Monsanto made a movie?

I imagine it would look similar to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KpeUZ0KJXjQ#t=122s

[EuroCat]

Somebody post this on GPC. Could be break the internet.

[slobber]

Clip from "Food, Inc"

THE BACKGROUND MUSIC!!!

[slobber]

I have some sympathy for the farmer who holds back beans to plant the next fall, because there are no soybeans that aren't roundup ready anymore, and roundup doesn't even work like it used to. Monsanto has made their money, and they should not be able to still be milking this "roundup ready" thing in 2013.

So once a company has recovered it's original investment, it is not allowed to make any more money?
Also, if you want to locate conventional soybean seed, try google.com. Ever heard of google.com, Nuts Kicked?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I have some sympathy for the farmer who holds back beans to plant the next fall, because there are no soybeans that aren't roundup ready anymore, and roundup doesn't even work like it used to. Monsanto has made their money, and they should not be able to still be milking this "roundup ready" thing in 2013.

So once a company has recovered it's original investment, it is not allowed to make any more money?
Also, if you want to locate conventional soybean seed, try google.com. Ever heard of google.com, Nuts Kicked?

It has more than recovered its original investment, and its product doesn't really work as advertised any more. It's really a moot point, anyway, because Monsanto's patent on Roundup Ready 1 expires next year.

[slobber]

The genetics that contain the RR1 trait won't expire. Those genetics are IP. The courts have established that. So, unless somebody has access to some very old and poorer performing genetics, the farmer will still not be able to legally save his seed. In reality, there are very few genetics that have the RR1 trait in them. Sure, some companies will likely split from Monsanto and start their own breeding programs with the RR1 trait, but those farmers will still not be able to legally save the seed, and it won't be Monsanto's fault.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The genetics that contain the RR1 trait won't expire. Those genetics are IP. The courts have established that. So, unless somebody has access to some very old and poorer performing genetics, the farmer will still not be able to legally save his seed. In reality, there are very few genetics that have the RR1 trait in them. Sure, some companies will likely split from Monsanto and start their own breeding programs with the RR1 trait, but those farmers will still not be able to legally save the seed, and it won't be Monsanto's fault.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/business/18seed.html

Monsanto also said that after the patent expired it would allow farmers to save Roundup Ready 1 seeds from one year’s crop to plant the next. Monsanto said it would not enforce other patents that might protect those seeds.

[puniraptor]

Has monsanto made any human/animal hybrids? seems like their bag. wonder what they made?

[slobber]

The genetics that contain the RR1 trait won't expire. Those genetics are IP. The courts have established that. So, unless somebody has access to some very old and poorer performing genetics, the farmer will still not be able to legally save his seed. In reality, there are very few genetics that have the RR1 trait in them. Sure, some companies will likely split from Monsanto and start their own breeding programs with the RR1 trait, but those farmers will still not be able to legally save the seed, and it won't be Monsanto's fault.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/business/18seed.html

Monsanto also said that after the patent expired it would allow farmers to save Roundup Ready 1 seeds from one year’s crop to plant the next. Monsanto said it would not enforce other patents that might protect those seeds.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I really think this country should start passing laws preventing awful practices like not allowing farmers to save their seed anyway. Being able to enforce a patent on a genetic trait is just garbage. As long as the farmer is not saving the seed to try to sell a competing product to Monsanto, I really don't see the problem with allowing somebody to replant their field with a crop they harvested from it.

[slobber]

Back on topic...if it weren't for Monsanto, they'd probably shut down Lambert Field, amirite? How many other companies are solely responsible for keeping a horrible airport open?

[Rage Against the McKee]

The genetics that contain the RR1 trait won't expire. Those genetics are IP. The courts have established that. So, unless somebody has access to some very old and poorer performing genetics, the farmer will still not be able to legally save his seed. In reality, there are very few genetics that have the RR1 trait in them. Sure, some companies will likely split from Monsanto and start their own breeding programs with the RR1 trait, but those farmers will still not be able to legally save the seed, and it won't be Monsanto's fault.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/business/18seed.html

Monsanto also said that after the patent expired it would allow farmers to save Roundup Ready 1 seeds from one year’s crop to plant the next. Monsanto said it would not enforce other patents that might protect those seeds.

[steve dave]

Being able to enforce a patent on a genetic trait is just garbage.

I agree with this. Slippery slope. But, where would the innovation come from? Will be much easier to argue for govt. funding of the research once our global govt. is in place.

[Institutional Control]

Being able to enforce a patent on a genetic trait is just garbage.

I agree with this. Slippery slope. But, where would the innovation come from? Will be much easier to argue for govt. funding of the research once our global govt. is in place.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Being able to enforce a patent on a genetic trait is just garbage.

I agree with this. Slippery slope. But, where would the innovation come from? Will be much easier to argue for govt. funding of the research once our global govt. is in place.

Monsanto would still be one of the world's most profitable companies even if they allowed farmers to clean their seed and replant it. There would still be plenty of motivation, if not more than there is today, for innovation.

[steve dave]

Being able to enforce a patent on a genetic trait is just garbage.

I agree with this. Slippery slope. But, where would the innovation come from? Will be much easier to argue for govt. funding of the research once our global govt. is in place.

Monsanto would still be one of the world's most profitable companies even if they allowed farmers to clean their seed and replant it. There would still be plenty of motivation, if not more than there is today, for innovation.

they aren't going to invest the kind of money they currently are in innovation when they can't see the profits they currently do. same whith pharma. yeah, you can argue that life saving drugs should be available for everyone but nobody is going to create them without the incentive of being able to cash in. and I was agreeing that being able to patent genetics is probably not a good idea.

[slobber]

The genetics that contain the RR1 trait won't expire. Those genetics are IP. The courts have established that. So, unless somebody has access to some very old and poorer performing genetics, the farmer will still not be able to legally save his seed. In reality, there are very few genetics that have the RR1 trait in them. Sure, some companies (THIS MEANS COMPANIES THAT ARE NOT MONSANTO, SO THEY CAN STILL CLAIM IP ON THE TRAITS) will likely split from Monsanto and start their own breeding programs with the RR1 trait, but those farmers will still not be able to legally save the seed, and it won't be Monsanto's fault.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/business/18seed.html

Monsanto also said that after the patent expired it would allow farmers to save Roundup Ready 1 seeds from one year’s crop to plant the next. Monsanto said it would not enforce other patents (other companies still can) that might protect those seeds.