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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2013, 08:58:23 AM »
Figure out who Withey's meth dealer is, and take him out of the picture, causing Withey to "crystal crash".

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2013, 09:03:21 AM »
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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2013, 09:27:35 AM »
If oscar tries to play up tempo again, the cats get rolled

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2013, 10:12:09 AM »
if we win it'll be because we hit an absurd amount of jump shots. we have no answer for withey's interior defense.  I guess JO could have some sort of miracle game but that's hard to count on.

This. We'll have to shoot particularly well or get a lot of boards to have a chance. Attacking Withey in the Big 12 Championship in KC is not going to go well. Just a lot of terrible frustrating shots for us.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2013, 10:19:00 AM »
Lose by 8-15 won't hit any shots

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2013, 10:22:01 AM »
Things to watch...

2PT%
In the first two games KU shot .515 and .541 on 2s. We shot .407 and .387. Plus they shot 12 more 2PT shots combined. KU destroyed us in points in the paint. As a result, KU shot over 7% better (eFG%) in both games. I'm fine with us shooting fewer 2s, but we've got to at least get into the mid 40s and hold them under 50. This may be our toughest task of the night.

As for 3s, K-State actually shot pretty well in Lawrence (.421), but only had 19 attempts on 50 shots (3PTA% of .380). Plus, we were so bad in so many other areas it didn't matter. K-State featured a much higher attempt% in Manhattan (.526), but we only made .300. Again, the difference in 2PT% was just a big of a factor with those numbers, but K-State probably needs 40% of our shots to be threes and to make 40% to win (10-24 from 3 or so).

Oboarding
KU won the boarding battle in both games and destroyed us on OR% in Lawrence (.452 - .182). Combined the margin was .407 to .235. However, since the game in Lawrence K-State has had an OR% of at least .346 in 7 out of 8 games and our worst OR% night was .325 (our loss in Stillwater). K-State doesn't necessarily have to win this battle (if we make 3s), but must at least keep things even. For actual numbers, keeping KU around 10 and getting ours to around 12 oboards would be ideal.

Turnovers
K-State won the battle on TOs in Manhattan and was even in Lawrence, but to win the game K-State probably needs to get to at least our average (+4% in TO% differential), so 10 or fewer for us and 13 or more for them if the pace is the low 60s (which is where we want it).

Free throws
Besides 3PT shooting, this was the other thing K-State did well in Lawrence, but again it didn't matter. The emphasis on attacking the lane carried over to 2PT% which KU destroyed us on. May as well continue running offense and generating better jumpers with occasionally attacks at the rim from Angel or Rod and maybe a few attempts for JO and Gip. Just make sure they don't get more than a 15% advantage (10-12 attempts for us, 18-20 for KU) in FTr and we should be good.

I want to pick us to win, but I've been burnt too many times. I think it will be like the game in Manhattan (low pace, but with better shooting) but in the end KU pulls away. My key is just to not let the game get away like it did in Lawrence. I think at this point we have a legit shot at a 3 even with a loss, as long as KU doesn't beat us by 20 or something ridiculous, which possibly could sway the committee a bit on putting us on the 3 line.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2013, 10:24:57 AM »

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2013, 10:27:24 AM »

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2013, 10:34:44 AM »
Will someone ban this guy?

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2013, 10:40:49 AM »
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Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.


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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2013, 10:46:14 AM »
Cats will win. :cool:
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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2013, 10:49:05 AM »

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2013, 10:57:41 AM »
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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2013, 11:02:20 AM »
100% guarantee we piss down our leg. KU is like, really, really in our heads.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2013, 11:04:04 AM »
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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2013, 11:14:08 AM »
Forget Withey. Rough up father of four Perry Ellis.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2013, 11:14:21 AM »
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.

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Re: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2013, 11:15:13 AM »
100% guarantee we piss down our leg. KU is like, really, really in our heads.

oscar needs to show pics of ku players to our guys and shop out the jersey.  Then out guys can realize the are playing disgusting horrible smelling losers and get over their mental block.   Obvs have to leave Ben out of that exercise.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2013, 11:17:25 AM »
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.

I so want this to happen. Pretty much since Huggs I've thought we were capable of playing with and beating KU, especially in Manhattan and on neutrals. But only twice have we managed to win those games, and often we've lost in very disappointing fashion. I hope I'm very wrong about the game, but I see us having 3-4 things that have to go right, and I'm not sure we'll get all of those done.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2013, 11:23:13 AM »
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.

I so want this to happen. Pretty much since Huggs I've thought we were capable of playing with and beating KU, especially in Manhattan and on neutrals. But only twice have we managed to win those games, and often we've lost in very disappointing fashion. I hope I'm very wrong about the game, but I see us having 3-4 things that have to go right, and I'm not sure we'll get all of those done.

I just don't think this KU team is good enough to beat this KSU team three times.  What happened in Lawrence was a fluke.

I believe in Rodney.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2013, 11:24:10 AM »
man _fan has me in the dumps today.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2013, 11:25:29 AM »
Guess I was wrong when I said the best part of _Fan's predictions is that he always predicts us to win.   :cry:

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2013, 11:26:51 AM »
Sorry you guys.

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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2013, 11:29:31 AM »
20 yrs ago in Kemper!!  :)


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Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2013, 11:37:13 AM »
I mean, we could win!  :D
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