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Title: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 15, 2013, 11:56:30 PM
post thoughts, predictions, strategies, rumors and all around game stuff about playing our first place bros for the hobby tournament trophy.

Talking points I am interested in hearing:

Is Kevin Young okay? (hope so :tsc: )
What will the extra 3-4 hours of rest do for your bros?
Can we find away to score on the inside this time?
Are we going to win another hobby trophy and win the B12 Treble?

tia

Go Cats!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sunny_cat on March 16, 2013, 12:01:01 AM
TSC
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sys on March 16, 2013, 12:08:21 AM
the plan is to play jhr, keep the ball in art's hands and we storm the court.
Title: Re: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2013, 12:09:39 AM
the plan is to play jhr, keep the ball in art's hands and we storm the court.

coaching isn't as hard as people think
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzified on March 16, 2013, 12:13:43 AM
And let Rodney take over.
Title: Re: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2013, 12:15:07 AM
And let Rodney take over.

or angel or Shane or some other player
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: timhawk on March 16, 2013, 12:15:28 AM
KU by 8-12
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 12:19:43 AM
Dear oscar; don't go with the play faster/attack the paint plan we used in Lawrence.

I'd rather much rather see 30 3PTAs again.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
Defensive rebounds
Chuck it from 3
Limit TO's
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2013, 12:30:30 AM
I think we'll see a lot of DJamer tomorrow. I'm assuming JO's back will hinder his minutes
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
rest the starters, play for what's important
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 16, 2013, 12:40:18 AM
I think we'll see a lot of DJamer tomorrow. I'm assuming JO's back will hinder his minutes
I  will  be b ecstatic  if  anything  but  foul trouble limits  JO's  minutes.

 Any one  that  does  not  shoot an  open 3  tomorrow  should  be  benched.  I  am including Gip   in  this  proclamation btw.  Fire  at  will
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMADUB on March 16, 2013, 12:50:36 AM
rest the starters, play for what's important

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11661.0
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: bones129 on March 16, 2013, 12:55:59 AM
EMADUB continues to amaze.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: jtksu on March 16, 2013, 01:02:32 AM
I think we'll see a lot of DJamer tomorrow. I'm assuming JO's back will hinder his minutes

Do you think it did tonight? He appeared kinda awkward (weird, I know) right after the tip off but I thought he ended up playing pretty damn well.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 16, 2013, 01:08:32 AM
I think we'll see a lot of DJamer tomorrow. I'm assuming JO's back will hinder his minutes

Do you think it did tonight? He appeared kinda awkward (weird, I know) right after the tip off but I thought he ended up playing pretty damn well.

He played very well tonight, idk I just think coming back less than 24 hours later is going to be tough to do. I hope he proves me wrong though
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: jtksu on March 16, 2013, 01:11:25 AM
I think we'll see a lot of DJamer tomorrow. I'm assuming JO's back will hinder his minutes

Do you think it did tonight? He appeared kinda awkward (weird, I know) right after the tip off but I thought he ended up playing pretty damn well.

He played very well tonight, idk I just think coming back less than 24 hours later is going to be tough to do. I hope he proves me wrong though

Yeah, I I kinda figure stuff like that hurts more the next day or whatever but I'm assuming he's been dealing with it for an extendwd period...
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: JKEYS on March 16, 2013, 01:22:52 AM
Dear oscar; don't go with the play faster/attack the paint plan we used in Lawrence.

I'd rather much rather see 30 3PTAs again.

I would like to see both...attack Withey, and if it doesn't look good kick for a three.  I just don't want JO or Gip trying to muscle the ball in there. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: doom on March 16, 2013, 01:24:37 AM
Dear oscar; don't go with the play faster/attack the paint plan we used in Lawrence.

I'd rather much rather see 30 3PTAs again.

I would like to see both...attack Withey, and if it doesn't look good kick for a three.  I just don't want JO or Gip trying to muscle the ball in there.

which is what they'd need to do to attack withey.  unless you mean to attack him with like a lead pipe, which makes your plan 50x cooler.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 16, 2013, 08:01:26 AM
Dear oscar; don't go with the play faster/attack the paint plan we used in Lawrence.

I'd rather much rather see 30 3PTAs again.

I would like to see both...attack Withey, and if it doesn't look good kick for a three.  I just don't want JO or Gip trying to muscle the ball in there.

Attacking Withey is a terrible plan.

Im with SD. Rest everyone and prepare for next week. I mean, why get tired over a game where there will be no losers anyway.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on March 16, 2013, 08:04:42 AM
My heart says we can win this, my head says there is no way. KU has the mental edge over us.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on March 16, 2013, 08:05:04 AM
Yeah, attacking Withey isn't a very good plan.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BostonPancake on March 16, 2013, 08:05:13 AM
KU by 8-12

this.    :bawl:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2013, 08:06:59 AM
if we win it'll be because we hit an absurd amount of jump shots. we have no answer for withey's interior defense.  I guess JO could have some sort of miracle game but that's hard to count on.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kslim on March 16, 2013, 08:35:37 AM
use the eff out of our fouls and hope we dont shoot like we did last night, play DJamer and orris if things get out of hand and play for friday
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: deputy dawg on March 16, 2013, 08:58:23 AM
Figure out who Withey's meth dealer is, and take him out of the picture, causing Withey to "crystal crash".
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: the KHAN! on March 16, 2013, 09:03:21 AM
KU by 8-12

this.    :bawl:

Still doesn't take away our Title. So meh.  :billdance:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 16, 2013, 09:27:35 AM
If oscar tries to play up tempo again, the cats get rolled
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: JavaCat on March 16, 2013, 10:12:09 AM
if we win it'll be because we hit an absurd amount of jump shots. we have no answer for withey's interior defense.  I guess JO could have some sort of miracle game but that's hard to count on.

This. We'll have to shoot particularly well or get a lot of boards to have a chance. Attacking Withey in the Big 12 Championship in KC is not going to go well. Just a lot of terrible frustrating shots for us.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on March 16, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Lose by 8-15 won't hit any shots
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 10:22:01 AM
Things to watch...

2PT%
In the first two games KU shot .515 and .541 on 2s. We shot .407 and .387. Plus they shot 12 more 2PT shots combined. KU destroyed us in points in the paint. As a result, KU shot over 7% better (eFG%) in both games. I'm fine with us shooting fewer 2s, but we've got to at least get into the mid 40s and hold them under 50. This may be our toughest task of the night.

As for 3s, K-State actually shot pretty well in Lawrence (.421), but only had 19 attempts on 50 shots (3PTA% of .380). Plus, we were so bad in so many other areas it didn't matter. K-State featured a much higher attempt% in Manhattan (.526), but we only made .300. Again, the difference in 2PT% was just a big of a factor with those numbers, but K-State probably needs 40% of our shots to be threes and to make 40% to win (10-24 from 3 or so).

Oboarding
KU won the boarding battle in both games and destroyed us on OR% in Lawrence (.452 - .182). Combined the margin was .407 to .235. However, since the game in Lawrence K-State has had an OR% of at least .346 in 7 out of 8 games and our worst OR% night was .325 (our loss in Stillwater). K-State doesn't necessarily have to win this battle (if we make 3s), but must at least keep things even. For actual numbers, keeping KU around 10 and getting ours to around 12 oboards would be ideal.

Turnovers
K-State won the battle on TOs in Manhattan and was even in Lawrence, but to win the game K-State probably needs to get to at least our average (+4% in TO% differential), so 10 or fewer for us and 13 or more for them if the pace is the low 60s (which is where we want it).

Free throws
Besides 3PT shooting, this was the other thing K-State did well in Lawrence, but again it didn't matter. The emphasis on attacking the lane carried over to 2PT% which KU destroyed us on. May as well continue running offense and generating better jumpers with occasionally attacks at the rim from Angel or Rod and maybe a few attempts for JO and Gip. Just make sure they don't get more than a 15% advantage (10-12 attempts for us, 18-20 for KU) in FTr and we should be good.

I want to pick us to win, but I've been burnt too many times. I think it will be like the game in Manhattan (low pace, but with better shooting) but in the end KU pulls away. My key is just to not let the game get away like it did in Lawrence. I think at this point we have a legit shot at a 3 even with a loss, as long as KU doesn't beat us by 20 or something ridiculous, which possibly could sway the committee a bit on putting us on the 3 line.

Hawks 70 - Cats 64
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2013, 10:24:57 AM
Hawks 70 - Cats 64

All hope gone
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
Hawks 70 - Cats 64

All hope gone

I've been broken. I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kitten_mittons on March 16, 2013, 10:34:44 AM
Will someone ban this guy?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2013, 10:40:49 AM
Hawks 70 - Cats 64

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-aecooiFE-vQ%2FUFvPKdhCcmI%2FAAAAAAAADBg%2FPjzkFLtmVF0%2Fs1600%2FEmperor-Palpatine.jpg&hash=5ebab7f500c6ed9b2829987014705c43b94f94ba)
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Winters on March 16, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
Cats will win. :cool:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2013, 10:49:05 AM
Cats will win. :cool:

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 16, 2013, 10:57:41 AM
 :ohno:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2013, 11:02:20 AM
100% guarantee we piss down our leg. KU is like, really, really in our heads.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2013, 11:04:04 AM
bomb threes
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: bunter on March 16, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
Forget Withey. Rough up father of four Perry Ellis.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Panjandrum on March 16, 2013, 11:14:21 AM
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.
Title: Re: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
100% guarantee we piss down our leg. KU is like, really, really in our heads.

oscar needs to show pics of ku players to our guys and shop out the jersey.  Then out guys can realize the are playing disgusting horrible smelling losers and get over their mental block.   Obvs have to leave Ben out of that exercise.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 11:17:25 AM
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.

I so want this to happen. Pretty much since Huggs I've thought we were capable of playing with and beating KU, especially in Manhattan and on neutrals. But only twice have we managed to win those games, and often we've lost in very disappointing fashion. I hope I'm very wrong about the game, but I see us having 3-4 things that have to go right, and I'm not sure we'll get all of those done.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Panjandrum on March 16, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
I think Rodney puts the finishing touches on his tournament MVP resume, Angel has a good game, and the Cats win by six.

I so want this to happen. Pretty much since Huggs I've thought we were capable of playing with and beating KU, especially in Manhattan and on neutrals. But only twice have we managed to win those games, and often we've lost in very disappointing fashion. I hope I'm very wrong about the game, but I see us having 3-4 things that have to go right, and I'm not sure we'll get all of those done.

I just don't think this KU team is good enough to beat this KSU team three times.  What happened in Lawrence was a fluke.

I believe in Rodney.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kslim on March 16, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
man _fan has me in the dumps today.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pvegs on March 16, 2013, 11:25:29 AM
Guess I was wrong when I said the best part of _Fan's predictions is that he always predicts us to win.   :cry:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
Sorry you guys.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pvegs on March 16, 2013, 11:29:31 AM
20 yrs ago in Kemper!!  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozxaEv-fZBE
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2013, 11:37:13 AM
I mean, we could win!  :D
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
20 yrs ago in Kemper!!  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozxaEv-fZBE

As a high school senior, I remember watching the 2nd half of that game in the Hays, Kansas mall after watching some 1A state tournament action. I had no idea I'd see only 4 more wins over KU in the next 20 years of my life and after a win in Lawrence the next season, the next win wouldn't come over KU for another 11 seasons.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kitten_mittons on March 16, 2013, 11:46:25 AM
BELIEVE
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: timhawk on March 16, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
KU by 8-12
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kslim on March 16, 2013, 12:03:37 PM
KU by 8-12

god doesnt like bigots we win by 6 good job
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on March 16, 2013, 12:19:31 PM
I think we can win.   We were a spradling away from a win I'm mhk for Christ sakes
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pvegs on March 16, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
20 yrs ago in Kemper!!  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozxaEv-fZBE

As a high school senior, I remember watching the 2nd half of that game in the Hays, Kansas mall after watching some 1A state tournament action. I had no idea I'd see only 4 more wins over KU in the next 20 years of my life and after a win in Lawrence the next season, the next win wouldn't come over KU for another 11 seasons.

I disliked Rex Walters as passionately as any 8 year old could.  Was sure we'd beat Missouri the next day and go on to a magical tourney run.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 16, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
The last time we had such exceptional guard play was 2010 with Pullen and Clemente. And, we have better bigs this year. We can run deep in the tourney. But when it comes to KU, well we all know how this is going to go. So does the team, and that's the problem.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 16, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
KU by 11-16

It hurts to know how this will end because I want it so bad for Rod, Tay and JO. You can really tell how bad they want it and that's the problem; they want it too bad.   :cry:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 16, 2013, 01:36:32 PM
KU by 11-16

It hurts to know how this will end because I want it so bad for Rod, Tay and JO. You can really tell how bad they want it and that's the problem; they want it too bad.   :cry:

I'm not sure that's the problem, but I'm no psychologist.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 16, 2013, 01:38:47 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2013, 01:43:41 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 16, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
I have a strange feeling that we will win today. It makes me  :ohno:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 16, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
You guys are idiots. The only way we win is if a couple of the KU players slip on the piss that ran down our collective leg and get injured.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: SwiftCat on March 16, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
I feel better about today then I did going into Lawrence.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 16, 2013, 01:53:36 PM
20 yrs ago in Kemper!!  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozxaEv-fZBE

As a high school senior, I remember watching the 2nd half of that game in the Hays, Kansas mall after watching some 1A state tournament action. I had no idea I'd see only 4 more wins over KU in the next 20 years of my life and after a win in Lawrence the next season, the next win wouldn't come over KU for another 11 seasons.

Anthony Beane  :love:

Also, Vincent Jackson is a way underrated alltime ksucat. So is Daryl Cunningham for that matter.

Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 16, 2013, 01:55:08 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.

Ask yourself this _Fan, has Sugar Dick ever been wrong?


Hint: the answer is never
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: timhawk on March 16, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.

Ask yourself this _Fan, has Sugar Dick ever been wrong?


Hint: the answer is never

except for all the other times you picked Kstate to beat KU
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 16, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.

Ask yourself this _Fan, has Sugar Dick ever been wrong?


Hint: the answer is never

except for all the other times you picked Kstate to beat KU


Don't talk at me, boy.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: timhawk on March 16, 2013, 02:04:03 PM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.

Ask yourself this _Fan, has Sugar Dick ever been wrong?


Hint: the answer is never

except for all the other times you picked Kstate to beat KU


Don't talk at me, boy.

I'm talking to you, not at you
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: 8manpick on March 16, 2013, 02:29:00 PM
I'm going now! :D go cats!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
Wish I was going
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 16, 2013, 04:19:19 PM
Nervous shitting everywhere
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: PowercatPat on March 16, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
We're gonna get rocked.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: HELLHAMMER on March 16, 2013, 04:41:46 PM
We're gonna get rocked.

Go eff yourself SOCK.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: eastcat on March 16, 2013, 05:04:37 PM
Billy Self just said "I like that K-State is good, I want K-State to be good!"

confused  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
ugly game all around. horrid offense, and I'm pretty sure
I'm 1 of about 10 EMAWs in here
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
we also just lost the halftime contest :'(
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2013, 02:52:55 AM
KState wins, and it won't be close.

I hope you are correct Fake.

Ask yourself this _Fan, has Sugar Dick ever been wrong?


Hint: the answer is never

Kiss of death.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2013, 09:49:05 AM
Some awful "we have to do 'x' to win" statements in this thread.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 09, 2023, 01:33:20 PM
UPDATED FOR 2023, THE YEAR OF THE RABBIT!

ATTENTION: BURT YORMACK!  What does your office have planned to celebrate our conference's greatest sports event of the year?

After KSU dispatches OSU and TCU, and KU gets past OU and ISU, we'll undoubtedly have a matchup of #1 vs #2 in the Little Apple.

Will there be celebrity fans in attendance?  Will there be multiple streams of the game featuring different camera angles and alternate play-by-play personalities?  Will The band Kansas sing the national anthem?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2023, 02:28:59 PM
hobby sport, should be played during the day and possibly aired on pbs
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 14, 2023, 11:14:03 AM
Big day today for lovers of the Dillons Sunflower Showdown next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 14, 2023, 11:33:37 AM
hobby sport, should be played during the day and possibly aired on pbs

It's been crazy how many hawk friends (used loosely) that have txt'd me over the last week asking if I'm excited about the game on Tuesday and where I'm going to watch it.  I'm not exactly sure why I should be excited but my response has been the same, " I doubt I'll miss Tues. night bingo at the Elk's Lodge for it.  I guess if they change the channel that is playing Andy Griffith reruns I will?"  Can you imagine missing a rerun where Pyle forgets to put the gas nozzle back in its cradle and the car drives off for that game?  I can't.   
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: surly on January 16, 2023, 11:30:01 AM
Big day today for lovers of the Dillons Sunflower Showdown next Tuesday.

The eyes of the nation will be on this one.  Many digs.   :billdance:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 16, 2023, 01:58:15 PM
Hoping we don't have a repeat of the TCU game tomorrow  :ohno:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 16, 2023, 02:00:20 PM
cats win big.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 16, 2023, 02:11:57 PM
unsurprisingly not much zeal from the worst and most undeserving college bb fanbase in the world. we're ranked you dorks
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: LesterFreamon on January 16, 2023, 02:15:30 PM
Its getting to the point I feel for them.  They haven't even beaten Wichita State since 1993.  Haven't we done that twice in the last 2 years? 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 16, 2023, 05:57:36 PM
how ragey will the OOD be tomorrow?  like, insanely ragey?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 16, 2023, 06:03:04 PM
how ragey will the OOD be tomorrow?  like, insanely ragey?

 :nono:

https://twitter.com/zaccarlson/status/1615116020682743808
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2023, 06:22:02 PM
Anti-chant'r
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2023, 06:27:56 PM
Knows he's gonna lose. :frown:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 16, 2023, 06:36:32 PM
Octagon of Love


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 16, 2023, 07:09:48 PM
how ragey will the OOD be tomorrow?  like, insanely ragey?

 :nono:

https://twitter.com/zaccarlson/status/1615116020682743808

Hard to argue he's wrong when we've spent the last 30 years hating them more than the taliban while beating them about once every 5 years.

Now allow me some time to go to twitter and KSO to see the meltdown about his comments.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 16, 2023, 07:11:41 PM
how ragey will the OOD be tomorrow?  like, insanely ragey?

 :nono:

https://twitter.com/zaccarlson/status/1615116020682743808

Hard to argue he's wrong when we've spent the last 30 years hating them more than the taliban while beating them about once every 5 years.

Now allow me some time to go to twitter and KSO to see the meltdown about his comments.

Didn’t beems pronounce us the taliban, or isis?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2023, 07:29:15 PM
Purple isis I think?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 16, 2023, 07:32:59 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 16, 2023, 07:33:46 PM
This game is NOT on too late  :excited:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 16, 2023, 07:54:59 PM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 16, 2023, 08:43:51 PM
Once again HCJT is right on point in his messaging. It's really a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 16, 2023, 08:44:52 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1615148405248102401
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 16, 2023, 09:02:12 PM
Musberger would be nails tomorrow
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 16, 2023, 09:11:06 PM
Hey nonny nonny but this all sounds like much adoom about nothing.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 16, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1615148405248102401

This tweet made me remember Dean had an amazing chance at a KU/K-State lifetime memory w/ the 3 to win it in 17.

Instead, KU went the other direction and Svi made the 5 step lay up.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kim carnes on January 16, 2023, 09:30:05 PM
All the booing and the anger creates bad vibes imo
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 16, 2023, 09:38:27 PM
All the booing and the anger creates bad vibes imo

I can’t remember such a time where it seemed to inject much enthusiasm and inspired play on the court.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 16, 2023, 10:20:24 PM
I plan on watching the game
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 16, 2023, 10:46:12 PM
All the booing and the anger creates bad vibes imo

I can’t remember such a time where it seemed to inject much enthusiasm and inspired play on the court.

The slapping the court is what gets the motor runnin
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 12:30:20 AM
Sorry in advance for ruining your Purple Cats party.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 17, 2023, 01:24:49 AM
I really hope the go purples win.  It's what's best for the board.  Though it does sting to turn my back on Bill like that.  #fightonstateu #basketcats #nottodayshitbirds

 :bball:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2023, 02:31:57 AM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on January 17, 2023, 05:52:46 AM
Tomlin gets into early foul trouble.

Kansas gets too many second chances/fast break points.


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 07:07:50 AM
Honestly as long as we don’t blow a 20 point 2nd half lead I don’t really care all that much (but for the record I would prefer if we win)
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.

This is foolhardy. But far be it from me to prevent you from your optimism.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 07:53:25 AM
I hope stunz didn't completely empty the chamber on saturday
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 17, 2023, 08:25:46 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 17, 2023, 08:27:50 AM
I would hope the majority of our fans are self aware enough to appreciate that the more you push back against a comment like “living rent free,” the more support you’re giving to it.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 17, 2023, 08:30:09 AM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.


Why do we do this to ourselves, fellow cats fanatic?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 08:31:14 AM
I wish our coach thought we were going to win  :frown:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2023, 08:33:45 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks

Oh for sure, and I think he also made those comments from the perspective of someone who's been in the conference for nearly 20 years on the outside looking in. Like, it was a "this is obvious how do you not see that" that plenty inside the bubble just can't see like he (and many others) does.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 08:36:13 AM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 17, 2023, 08:42:54 AM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans

This is probably true. A small population with 2 P5 schools makes it nearly impossible not to interact with your rival on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 17, 2023, 08:45:56 AM
It's refreshing.  As long as we beat KU most of our fans wouldn't care what happens the rest of the season.  Little dick energy.  I want big dick energy where we think of this as another competitive ranked game that makes us better so we can finally compete for a Natty.   
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 17, 2023, 08:50:06 AM
I don't think he said anything wrong, it was basic coach speak.  It just came across and kind of cheesy.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 08:50:41 AM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans

This is probably true. A small population with 2 P5 schools makes it nearly impossible not to interact with your rival on a daily basis.

1. Missouri is our rival. You guys are just our little bros we give noogies to.

2. Anything could happen. I don't have a strong feeling either way. We are ball Hawks, so it could go the way of TCU. Or maybe not!

3. I hope for a good, clean game with no injuries to these young sportsmen.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2023, 08:59:48 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks

Oh for sure, and I think he also made those comments from the perspective of someone who's been in the conference for nearly 20 years on the outside looking in. Like, it was a "this is obvious how do you not see that" that plenty inside the bubble just can't see like he (and many others) does.
Coach Tang's comments helped me to re-orient from a perspective of hate for my enemies toward renewed and deeper love for my Cats. This is good and healthy and probably overdue.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
Squawks pretending to not care about the cats is their living rent free analog. The sunflower is important to both sides and that's part of what makes college sports great!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 09:05:35 AM
Squawks pretending to not care about the cats is their living rent free analog. The sunflower is important to both sides and that's part of what makes college sports great!

It feels like this is directed at me. If so, I will say I would be happy for you guys (well, the cats I actually know. Not the internet fanbase) if you won. For me, it's just another day on the calendar.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 09:08:04 AM
Well, you're a l'horn
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 17, 2023, 09:08:25 AM
After all the mass murder attempts the squawks have tried to pull on the court vs the cats over the years, I won't be letting my son watch tonight's game.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 17, 2023, 09:10:44 AM
Squawks pretending to not care about the cats is their living rent free analog. The sunflower is important to both sides and that's part of what makes college sports great!

It feels like this is directed at me. If so, I will say I would be happy for you guys (well, the cats I actually know. Not the internet fanbase) if you won. For me, it's just another day on the calendar.

very well may be true for you.
Searching twitter and fbook, that is not the case for other KU fans.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 09:42:27 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks

he is 100% correct. i was with some farmseed relative over the holidays who was celebrating that KU lost to Tennessee, and i was like don't you realize it's bad for k state when a b12 team loses a noncon game? and he looked at me as if i had just told him i was trans
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 17, 2023, 10:00:04 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks

he is 100% correct. i was with some farmseed relative over the holidays who was celebrating that KU lost to Tennessee, and i was like don't you realize it's bad for k state when a b12 team loses a noncon game? and he looked at me as if i had just told him i was trans
K-State should be worried about two things moving forward.  In both Football and the Hobby Sport winning Big 12 Titles and making it to the Final 4 are Top Priority. Tang has won National Championships and Klieman won them at a different level but that doesn't mean he can't do it in Manhattan.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2023, 10:23:41 AM
I kind of agree with tang. Also too much of our fanbase is comprised of yokels who just want to beat ku and show up in big numbers for the annual fball bowl game. It%u2019s embarrassing and small minded.

he's exactly correct. I would have maybe added that people should be fired up and loud for the game also because it's a top 5 opponent at home. If he gets the program where he wants it, it will be just another big game to stay at the top of conf.
Thankfully i don't follow many dorks who were pissed about it. As soon as he said rent free, i knew the awful ksu twitter reply guys would be pissed. dorks

he is 100% correct. i was with some farmseed relative over the holidays who was celebrating that KU lost to Tennessee, and i was like don't you realize it's bad for k state when a b12 team loses a noncon game? and he looked at me as if i had just told him i was trans
K-State should be worried about two things moving forward.  In both Football and the Hobby Sport winning Big 12 Titles and making it to the Final 4 are Top Priority. Tang has won National Championships and Klieman won them at a different level but that doesn't mean he can't do it in Manhattan.
We've been really close to the F4 3x in my life. I believe we can make it there!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 17, 2023, 10:50:46 AM
1. Missouri is our rival.

Lol, ok Great Grandpa.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 17, 2023, 10:54:52 AM
Squawks pretending to not care about the cats is their living rent free analog. The sunflower is important to both sides and that's part of what makes college sports great!
I just assumed it’s similar to FB for us where there’s always that pressure to maintain the streak.

For tonight’s game, getting a quality win at home is more important to me than beating KU. When we play at their place is the one I consider to be for intrastate bragging rights.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2023, 11:28:29 AM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.


Why do we do this to ourselves, fellow cats fanatic?

I don't believe in santa, the easter bunny, curses, nor do I mythologize KU. They've beaten the crap out of us for most of our lifetimes. Those teams weren't these teams. I've watched them fall behind double digits to interior opponents all season, to this point. This game will be the toughest game they've had, I don't think it will be as easy for them to come back tonight as they have against ISU or the Oklahoma schools. I think we're going to win, because of the same reason I'd thought we would lose on Saturday. This conference is hard as hell and eventually everyone's got to pay for their shortcomings.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 17, 2023, 11:29:47 AM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans

Baylor would very much disagree with you.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: surly on January 17, 2023, 11:44:26 AM
When do gates open tonight, I want to beat him in? :billdance:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 17, 2023, 11:55:17 AM
We'll lose a close game tonight, fans will be pissed, twitter will meltdown, jayhawk twitter will celebrate (although not our rivals) and we'll forget all about it by Saturday
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2023, 12:10:43 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 17, 2023, 12:17:32 PM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.


Why do we do this to ourselves, fellow cats fanatic?

I don't believe in santa, the easter bunny, curses, nor do I mythologize KU. They've beaten the crap out of us for most of our lifetimes. Those teams weren't these teams. I've watched them fall behind double digits to interior opponents all season, to this point. This game will be the toughest game they've had, I don't think it will be as easy for them to come back tonight as they have against ISU or the Oklahoma schools. I think we're going to win, because of the same reason I'd thought we would lose on Saturday. This conference is hard as hell and eventually everyone's got to pay for their shortcomings.

If we could get them to wear someone else's jersey and convince the team it really wasn't the Jayhawks we were playing I would agree with you. Historically even our good teams who were capable of beating then got caught up in the whole "OMG We are beating them" euphoria and start doing stupid things.

My hope is that this team has enough new blood to the program that this is just a big game because it's a conference game against a ranked opponent and not focus on the stupid cartoon bird logo.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2023, 12:25:01 PM
We're going to win and it's going to be relatively easy.


Why do we do this to ourselves, fellow cats fanatic?

I don't believe in santa, the easter bunny, curses, nor do I mythologize KU. They've beaten the crap out of us for most of our lifetimes. Those teams weren't these teams. I've watched them fall behind double digits to interior opponents all season, to this point. This game will be the toughest game they've had, I don't think it will be as easy for them to come back tonight as they have against ISU or the Oklahoma schools. I think we're going to win, because of the same reason I'd thought we would lose on Saturday. This conference is hard as hell and eventually everyone's got to pay for their shortcomings.

If we could get them to wear someone else's jersey and convince the team it really wasn't the Jayhawks we were playing I would agree with you. Historically even our good teams who were capable of beating then got caught up in the whole "OMG We are beating them" euphoria and start doing stupid things.

My hope is that this team has enough new blood to the program that this is just a big game because it's a conference game against a ranked opponent and not focus on the stupid cartoon bird logo.

ku has only one win by double digits in Big 12 play, and has 3 games at home they barely have won, and with a combined 3 points to them. They are obviously a good team but I tend to side with MiR on this, they are just getting by, they are due for a loss. If Nowell and Keonte play "their game" like they did vs everyone but @TCU I think it'll be enough for us to win. They don't have home cookin to keep them in late in this one.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: surly on January 17, 2023, 12:47:24 PM
When do gates open tonight, I want to beat him in? :billdance:

4:30PM
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 17, 2023, 12:51:11 PM

Historically even our good teams who were capable of beating then got caught up in the whole "OMG We are beating them" euphoria and start doing stupid things.


I think this is mostly a product of having a really good coach.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 12:52:58 PM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans

Baylor would very much disagree with you.

I’m not even sure Baylor lives rent free in the heads of Baylor fans they seem to be one of the most tepid of fan bases
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: deputy dawg on January 17, 2023, 01:06:26 PM
Also Baylor doesn't have a rival so he probably has no idea how that works with the fans

This is probably true. A small population with 2 P5 schools makes it nearly impossible not to interact with your rival on a daily basis.

1. Missouri is our rival. You guys are just our little bros we give noogies to.

2. Anything could happen. I don't have a strong feeling either way. We are ball Hawks, so it could go the way of TCU. Or maybe not!

3. I hope for a good, clean game with no injuries to these young sportsmen.

Hate to tell you this, but K-State is the oldest university in the state of Kansas.  A K-Stater designed your campus before KU was funded into existence.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 17, 2023, 01:26:36 PM
Imagine thinking a team in another conference who you never play is your rival.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 17, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
Guys! Our rivals are Colorado and Nebraska!  :lol:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 17, 2023, 01:28:29 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)

LOL forgot about that one. Both about how stupid and childish it made Nate appear, and on the other hand how Keitzman used it to try and fire him. Amazing times.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 02:02:16 PM
U guise wanna be our rival so hard. It's kinda cute  :D
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 17, 2023, 02:26:03 PM
Can this game start already  :curse:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: LesterFreamon on January 17, 2023, 02:28:14 PM
U guise wanna be our rival so hard. It's kinda cute  :D

We arent't your rival. Wichita State is...you haven't beaten them since 1993!!!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: j-von on January 17, 2023, 02:45:00 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)

LOL forgot about that one. Both about how stupid and childish it made Nate appear, and on the other hand how Keitzman used it to try and fire him. Amazing times.

In the end, Tim Cook ended up firing him from Sporting KC telecasts.  Nice job Tim!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 02:53:06 PM
Can this game start already  :curse:

I had to fly to Oregon for work this morning so imagine the absolute mind eff I’m experiencing right now. It’s not even 1 o clock (wut) and the game is in 3 hours. Wow! I mean I’m sure for trim and the other PNW’rs this is just another Tuesday but I feel like I’m in the twilight zone or bizarro world or something!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 17, 2023, 03:09:28 PM
Looks like there will be quite a bit more CBB media in the house than normal. fun.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: _33 on January 17, 2023, 03:39:20 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)

LOL forgot about that one. Both about how stupid and childish it made Nate appear, and on the other hand how Keitzman used it to try and fire him. Amazing times.

In the end, Tim Cook ended up firing him from Sporting KC telecasts.  Nice job Tim!

He doesn't do sporting kc anymore?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: j-von on January 17, 2023, 04:01:18 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)

LOL forgot about that one. Both about how stupid and childish it made Nate appear, and on the other hand how Keitzman used it to try and fire him. Amazing times.

In the end, Tim Cook ended up firing him from Sporting KC telecasts.  Nice job Tim!

He doesn't do sporting kc anymore?

Apple TV is now the main broadcast partner for MLS and they'll have their own team of announcers.  I could see him doing the radio feed possibly.

Quote
Apple and Major League Soccer released a list of on-air broadcasters for the upcoming 2023 season. MLS Season Pass on the Apple TV app will be the new home to American soccer beginning next month.

Play-by-play duties will be handled by Max Bretos, Steve Cangialosi,Jake Zivin, Pablo Ramírez and Frederic Lord. Match analysts include Kyndra de St. Aubin, Maurice Edu, Lori Lindsey, Danielle Slaton, Taylor Twellman, Marcelo Balboa and Sébastien Le Toux.

Studio talent will be led by Liam McHugh, Jilian Sakovits and Tony Cherchi for Spanish viewers. The trio joins former MLS stars-turned-analysts Sacha Kljestan, Bradley Wright-Phillips and Diego Valeri.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 04:28:18 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/R7wPTYgPMfKVQDcFBpq85-ZGMFuigDpFq6kPv10Fm-Q.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=e095f08d35e23d53cbeb20aa77eb3ad448b5b6c8)
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 17, 2023, 04:46:18 PM
front loaded schedule huh. Tonight is a big game! (for non rivalry reasons)
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 04:59:46 PM
Just in the interest of balanced airtime, it isn't just Cat fans who act like deranged nutjobs when the Dillon's is on the line:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsW_MdWIAMdmDc?format=jpg&name=small)

LOL forgot about that one. Both about how stupid and childish it made Nate appear, and on the other hand how Keitzman used it to try and fire him. Amazing times.

In the end, Tim Cook ended up firing him from Sporting KC telecasts.  Nice job Tim!

He doesn't do sporting kc anymore?

Apple TV is now the main broadcast partner for MLS and they'll have their own team of announcers.  I could see him doing the radio feed possibly.

Quote
Apple and Major League Soccer released a list of on-air broadcasters for the upcoming 2023 season. MLS Season Pass on the Apple TV app will be the new home to American soccer beginning next month.

Play-by-play duties will be handled by Max Bretos, Steve Cangialosi,Jake Zivin, Pablo Ramírez and Frederic Lord. Match analysts include Kyndra de St. Aubin, Maurice Edu, Lori Lindsey, Danielle Slaton, Taylor Twellman, Marcelo Balboa and Sébastien Le Toux.

Studio talent will be led by Liam McHugh, Jilian Sakovits and Tony Cherchi for Spanish viewers. The trio joins former MLS stars-turned-analysts Sacha Kljestan, Bradley Wright-Phillips and Diego Valeri.

Yeah, that went beyond cheering in the pressbox. Should have had his Bramlage press credentials pulled for that nonsense.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 17, 2023, 05:02:54 PM
Grady Dick had to buy a ticket to the damn game . . . 

(https://i.ibb.co/Jr9G0vH/Screenshot-2023-01-17-170012.jpg)
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Post by: IPA4Me on January 17, 2023, 05:08:39 PM
If you're in need of a stream, here ya go.

https://sport365.stream/basketball/18-jan-23/kansas-wildcats-kansas

The Euros get a little confused on team names. :)
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Post by: nicname on January 17, 2023, 05:09:38 PM
Grady Dick had to buy a ticket to the damn game . . . 

(https://i.ibb.co/Jr9G0vH/Screenshot-2023-01-17-170012.jpg)

B-Rad Phoginator
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 05:13:25 PM
KU Karl is all kinds of horned up for tonight
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Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2023, 05:17:41 PM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1615479807835267072
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 17, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
KU Karl is all kinds of horned up for tonight

Karl instructed Karla to not speak during the game.  She's so mad she's going to watch the game on the Philips 19 inch tube TV/VCR combo in her sewing room.

In semi-related news, the Jayhawk garden stone (now prominently displayed in the rock bed that's around the mailbox) got a good washing today at about 12:15.  Broke out the good sprayer and everything . . . garden hose drained and placed back in the garage as is appropriate this time of year. 

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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 06:04:03 PM
He's been doing that all night
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 06:05:32 PM
Goddamn turnoverss
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 06:10:25 PM
Pock Pock Chickenhawk
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 06:11:33 PM
Give us Sandstorm Gene!
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 06:12:37 PM
Glorious chanting students, great stuff
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Post by: Cire on January 17, 2023, 06:12:37 PM
Pretty good start for the cats


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 06:15:34 PM
Bald Bill with a timeout
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Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 17, 2023, 06:23:43 PM
Looking good out there!
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
winning big and not even playing our A game
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 06:32:14 PM
I'm afraid this blowout won't let our crowd be as angry as it deserves
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 06:32:30 PM
I'm getting slight Dom Sutton energy from Sills, am I crazy
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 06:38:31 PM
2 bullshit foul calls and still kicking ass
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 06:39:57 PM
I'm getting slight Dom Sutton energy from Sills, am I crazy
Yes you are crazy
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Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 17, 2023, 06:43:59 PM
Need more anger from crowd on these marginal calls
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 06:47:58 PM
these scully and hitchcock looking refs need to call a fair game
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Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 17, 2023, 06:48:24 PM
Need KJ out there.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 17, 2023, 06:54:58 PM
The highs and lows with Tomlin are unmatched
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 06:57:43 PM
somehow winning after looking poorly coached, not getting any luck, and crap refs. looked way better last year at half
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 07:02:39 PM
Good half from the cats, only complaint is lack of alley oop dunks.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:19:52 PM
BOOOOOOOO
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 07:22:03 PM
where the dummies talking crap about ish. 🤡
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:23:30 PM
where the dummies talking crap about ish. 🤡

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Desi Stills is our best guard as I’ve said all along
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:26:42 PM
College basketball reffing is a complete mystery to me
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
Green is your Sutton @mocat
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 07:30:58 PM
College basketball reffing is a complete mystery to me
That over the back call was unreal
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 07:31:08 PM
It's the out of nowhere out of control energy on the offensive end that is somehow working that was sending me there
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 07:31:15 PM
At least they missed the free throws
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 07:33:18 PM
it's nice to play kansas one time where they don't shoot 80% from 3
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 07:36:05 PM
Desi Sills is a 25% 3P shooter this year…
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
That looked like a textbook charge, I just don't get it
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:38:37 PM
I also fully realize I'm like a ku football guy who doesn't understand what holding is
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 07:43:57 PM
I preferred when we were making buckets and winning by like 14 or whatever
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 17, 2023, 07:47:39 PM
They've lost their mojo on offense.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 07:48:56 PM
eff eff eff eff eff eff this send the squawks to th line eff eff eff crap
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Post by: kim carnes on January 17, 2023, 07:49:02 PM
This game is very hard to watch
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Post by: 8manpick on January 17, 2023, 07:49:04 PM
eff these refs
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 07:52:39 PM
They've lost their mojo on offense.

I feel like an alley oop would go a long way in curing that ailment. I would like if we did that
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 07:54:14 PM
This game is very hard to watch

common theme for a tang-coached team
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 07:54:18 PM
These refs, lmao
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Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 07:55:06 PM
Was not a foul, but Kevin has sucked tonight, anyway.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 07:56:15 PM
Was not a foul, but Kevin has sucked tonight, anyway.

I didn't understand that one either!
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 07:57:28 PM
Was not a foul, but Kevin has sucked tonight, anyway.

I didn't understand that one either!
Yes, terrible call
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 07:58:22 PM
They've lost their mojo on offense.

I feel like an alley oop would go a long way in curing that ailment. I would like if we did that

Dollar Bill ain’t havin that
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 07:59:59 PM
Some really lousy shot clock awareness this day
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 08:01:51 PM
Need Quis to start doing some Quis things
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:03:08 PM
Need Quis to start doing some Quis things

Would be fine with some incredibly sexy 3 ptr pointers
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
why is massoud not playing? tang wanting to prove he can win with his own guys?

speak of the devil  :gocho:

(but don't speak of the devil around tang)
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Post by: Spracne on January 17, 2023, 08:11:57 PM
Prepare your hearts/throats.
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 08:13:18 PM
Prepare your hearts/throats.
Full hearts, open throats, can't lose
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 08:18:36 PM
gotta go up strong, not chuck it and hope for the foul. need to be better coached
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:18:44 PM
No contact there huh? Okay
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 08:20:12 PM
No contact there huh? Okay

that's never getting called. but you probably just started watching basketball this season
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
No contact there huh? Okay

that's never getting called. but you probably just started watching basketball this season

Piss up a rope, cheesedick
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:23:15 PM
Ooooooh the classic pretend to be hurt but you aren’t and you don’t even leave the game move. Love it
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:24:53 PM
Glad jalen is okay
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Post by: dal9 on January 17, 2023, 08:29:45 PM
Grady Brick has anyone said this
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 08:30:26 PM
Grady Brick has anyone said this
That's great
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 08:34:06 PM
Tomlin had a nice game
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 08:35:14 PM
Feels like an Ish 3 is coming to seal this
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 08:35:43 PM
God I hate these fouls. A lot of legit but Jesus it's a lot
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 08:37:21 PM
Will jalen miss another shot tonight? I doubt it
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 08:39:10 PM
And timeouts. Too many rough ridin' timeouts
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Post by: TaqMan on January 17, 2023, 08:40:25 PM
And timeouts. Too many rough ridin' timeouts

unless we score on the inbounds, then great timeout
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 08:41:21 PM
Omg
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Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2023, 08:41:24 PM
And timeouts. Too many rough ridin' timeouts

unless we score on the inbounds, then great timeout
Well. There's still too many timeouts lol
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Post by: sys on January 17, 2023, 08:43:35 PM
that was great.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 08:43:57 PM
Cats
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 08:44:10 PM
the perfect lob from nowell  :love:
massoud the hero on defense  :love:

oscar's players making all the winning plays
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Post by: dal9 on January 17, 2023, 08:45:22 PM
was massoud oob there?
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Post by: catastrophe on January 17, 2023, 08:46:25 PM
What a grind. Big win for Big 12 title contention.
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 08:46:42 PM
First dunk was the last points of the game
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Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2023, 08:46:51 PM
Cats
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Post by: mocat on January 17, 2023, 08:46:52 PM
Perfect
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 08:47:16 PM
was massoud oob there?

Refs wouldn’t have made it out of the OOD alive had they called that
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Post by: Katpappy on January 17, 2023, 08:47:38 PM
OMG, we win one in the Hobby Sport!!!  :lol:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 17, 2023, 08:49:30 PM
Prepare your hearts/throats.
:lol:
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Post by: TaqMan on January 17, 2023, 08:50:32 PM
 :party:
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Post by: Justwin on January 17, 2023, 08:52:32 PM
Love that Self cost his team the game calling a timeout and not trusting Wilson to hit a deep three.
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Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 17, 2023, 08:53:51 PM
I feel bad for Self. It has to be completely humiliating to get absolutely punked by a first-year coach like that.
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Post by: Purple Derpathy on January 17, 2023, 08:54:07 PM
Wasn't pretty at times, but we pulled it out. Hats off to Tang and group. Should be top 5 in rankings next week after we beat Tech
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Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2023, 08:55:24 PM
Good half from the cats, only complaint is lack of alley oop dunks.

Finally got one.
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Post by: wetwillie on January 17, 2023, 08:58:13 PM
Forgot what it’s like to be America’s sweet heart.  Feels good.

https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1615540274251591680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1615540274251591680%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=
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Post by: catastrophe on January 17, 2023, 08:58:34 PM
was massoud oob there?

Refs wouldn’t have made it out of the OOD alive had they called that
They don’t call us the ISIS of the Big 12 for nothing.
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Post by: Powercat84 on January 17, 2023, 09:09:16 PM
Did Oscar ever beat KU?  Honestly can’t remember and IDGAF…
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 09:10:47 PM
Did Oscar ever beat KU?  Honestly can’t remember and IDGAF…

you can thank oscar for the heroes of today's game.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 17, 2023, 09:14:23 PM
Did Oscar ever beat KU?  Honestly can’t remember and IDGAF…

you can thank oscar for the heroes of today's game.

Sills and Johnson? Go away Oscar boi, this is Tang's night.
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Post by: stunted on January 17, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
check again who made the winning plays of the night.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
Cats
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Post by: Pete on January 17, 2023, 09:25:13 PM
Never doubted it for a second.  I watched the entire game with my eyes propped open with tooth pics so I could not shut them and had to watch the entire game with zero blinking and only watching the cats!
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 09:26:20 PM
Not confirmed, but to my knowledge there were not any confirmed cases of ku players getting chicken waing’d. great work, putting the “stud” in student section tonight.
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Post by: Pete on January 17, 2023, 09:26:52 PM
So, taking the game winning lead with an alley-oop over your top 5 ranked in-state rival, is an all-time historical "thing," right? It has to be.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on January 17, 2023, 09:26:59 PM
GUYS
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Post by: DaBigTrain on January 17, 2023, 09:27:06 PM
WOW WHAT A GAME
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Post by: Hurricane Cat on January 17, 2023, 09:31:30 PM
I think we can agree that we're all winners tonight. . .
Because we didn’t have to watch/hear/witness oscar Weber on the sidelines. Amen.

 :lol:

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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 17, 2023, 09:34:22 PM
So, taking the game winning lead with an alley-oop over your top 5 ranked in-state rival, is an all-time historical "thing," right? It has to be.

In my opinion, yes. In terms of ultimate swag moves, I would have to put it just above Carti with the windmill dunk bc that was kind of a cherry on top whereas tonight it was litchrilly the game winning basquette
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Post by: Pete on January 17, 2023, 09:35:43 PM
I think we can agree that we're all winners tonight. . .
Because we didn’t have to watch/hear/witness oscar Weber on the sidelines. Amen.

 :lol:

:tsc:
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Post by: Cire on January 17, 2023, 09:38:11 PM
I can’t believe the oop

Missed the whole second half at basketball practice.

OT started as I pulled in the garage thank god


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Post by: kstater on January 17, 2023, 09:41:41 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateAllDay/status/1615540714447716355?t=B6po2hW6PJI0H6L6zJwI2Q&s=09

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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 17, 2023, 09:42:00 PM
Consensus on the Phog, Bill Self was outcoached, Juan Harris sucks, and the refs cost them the game.
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Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 17, 2023, 09:49:47 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateAllDay/status/1615540714447716355?t=B6po2hW6PJI0H6L6zJwI2Q&s=09

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38 points and a posterization on the game-winning ‘oop.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 17, 2023, 10:05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1615543363960274945?s=20&t=zNiv2AsOQ5pt6ajJcGQjxA
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Post by: Powercat84 on January 17, 2023, 10:15:06 PM
So glad Tang and coaches were able to transform Nowell and Ish into legit Big 12 players… #blessed
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Post by: DaBigTrain on January 17, 2023, 10:17:08 PM
Consensus on the Phog, Bill Self was outcoached, Juan Harris sucks, and the refs cost them the game.
:love:
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Post by: RickRampus on January 17, 2023, 10:17:27 PM
I'm just here for the Gems from the Phog

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Post by: nicname on January 17, 2023, 10:31:26 PM
Jerome Tang: "I was really disappointed in the introduction when our students started chanting the F KU chant ... I really want them to understand that we don’t have to degrade the other team."

Per Kellis.

Tang shaking his head and scowling was very lol
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 17, 2023, 10:31:52 PM
Awesome damn win.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2023, 10:49:35 PM
Jerome Tang: "I was really disappointed in the introduction when our students started chanting the F KU chant ... I really want them to understand that we don’t have to degrade the other team."

Per Kellis.

Tang shaking his head and scowling was very lol

We'll learn, maybe
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2023, 10:51:41 PM
I bet it's considerably more effective than the stupid band threats
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 17, 2023, 11:13:49 PM
I bet it's considerably more effective than the stupid band threats

I think he's fighting a losing battle. He should just ignore it or embrace it.
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Post by: Pete on January 17, 2023, 11:14:04 PM
I bet it's considerably more effective than the stupid band threats
Time will tell. A lot people, many many people, have said the band threats did not go far enough. SAD!
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 17, 2023, 11:19:30 PM
I need Trim and company to chime in here

https://twitter.com/marchmadnessmbb/status/1615545315947577345?s=46&t=3TejaCRlFyiIZhoQ8Yr0IA
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Powercat84 on January 17, 2023, 11:49:24 PM
Can you even imagine awkward Oscar with a mic in his hand…. 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Kid In the Hall on January 17, 2023, 11:53:10 PM
Goodman's show from The Bram...

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlKQpegDMnxE
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 04:01:56 AM
I bet it's considerably more effective than the stupid band threats

I think he's fighting a losing battle. He should just ignore it or embrace it.

Do the eff chanters really like saying eff more than they like Jerome Tang? Ain't no way. I think ultimately the like 4 dozen students who just have the overwhelming need to scream eff will be drowned out by those who aren't infantile little bitches.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:04:58 AM
It's sad how violent Huggy and Frank were. Most of the dudes who checked out the past 10 years still think we have to be super ragey and abusive in the sport.  :frown:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 18, 2023, 08:07:38 AM
are we really going to whine about the chant again?  if they want to do it, do it.  JFC, let's all move on
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:08:51 AM
are we really going to whine about the chant again?  if they want to do it, do it.  JFC, let's all move on
Would really suck to lose a great coach over it, but ok.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 18, 2023, 08:10:12 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:12:45 AM
I think Texas can pay the man a lot more, it's home, and they don't act like juveniles there. Dude is going to get a crap ton of offers if he keeps this up. Acting like dip shits doesn't help. He literally rolled his eyes on the opening tip when we started the chant. It was rough ridin' sad.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 18, 2023, 08:14:55 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.

While you’re at it, ask him about how afraid he is to get covid because he foolishly got vaccinated
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:18:33 AM
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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:19:32 AM
Line up to show me your little dicks, gents. Shall not be infringed in sounding like white trash!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:22:53 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.

While you’re at it, ask him about how afraid he is to get covid because he foolishly got vaccinated
Don't pit this up, dumb eff! Thanks for proving coach Tang's point.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on January 18, 2023, 08:59:07 AM
Chant is dumb. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:01:05 AM
 :love:

Our athletic department is so rough ridin' smart these days. Thank you, Gene!


https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/1615725173797265410?s=20&t=ZFdQy8lzJw9mf-HliDI-mg
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 18, 2023, 09:03:43 AM
Tang will kill it off. It just wasn't going to happen the first KU game.  He's hokey but he's also 100% earnest about it, which goes a long way.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 18, 2023, 09:08:12 AM
he's right, but quite preachy from dorky jesus coach
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 18, 2023, 09:13:56 AM
At this point, anyone who thinks Tang & Co isn't an upgrade from the previous staff is either:

1.  Pulling off the greatest troll job of all time

or

2.  A huge dumbass
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:16:23 AM
At this point, anyone who thinks Tang & Co isn't an upgrade from the previous staff is either:

1.  Pulling off the greatest troll job of all time

or

2.  A huge dumbass
Where is this coming from? What a take!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2023, 09:18:06 AM


At this point, anyone who thinks Tang & Co isn't an upgrade from the previous staff is either:

1.  Pulling off the greatest troll job of all time

or

2.  A huge dumbass
Where is this coming from? What a take!


? Did you misread it?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 18, 2023, 09:18:36 AM
i don't care if he wins 2 big 12s and goes to an elite 8. he's preachy and i don't like his voice
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:19:16 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:20:08 AM


At this point, anyone who thinks Tang & Co isn't an upgrade from the previous staff is either:

1.  Pulling off the greatest troll job of all time

or

2.  A huge dumbass
Where is this coming from? What a take!


? Did you misread it?
Seemed unnecessary to say.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 09:20:30 AM
oscar was awesome for the first 6 years but he refused to adjust to modern day transfer portal NIL recruiting and went full Snyder 2.0 on his coaching staff at the end. We have been blessed with 4 straight coaches that have given us excitement and good times. I love Tang the most of them all though.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 18, 2023, 09:21:15 AM
They should just change it to "make love KU" and then both sides will be happy.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
i don't care if he wins 2 big 12s and goes to an elite 8. he's preachy and i don't like his voice

this is how it's done. keep it up stunz!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:22:24 AM
Tang might be the biggest upgrade we've ever had at the University. He has staying power type of crap. Like a tourney appearance every year kind of guy and dudes galore. He could be a top 10 coach in two years.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2023, 09:23:19 AM
Tang might be the biggest upgrade we've ever had at the University. He has staying power type of crap. Like a tourney appearance every year kind of guy and dudes galore. He could be a top 10 coach in two years.

Yeah, he's probably going to end up being the best coach we've ever had.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 18, 2023, 09:23:34 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.

What all do you think motivates a coach to stay at a program? I'd put money (including assistant coach salaries), facilities, and AD relationship at the top, but you're telling me that fan support isn't a factor? Hell, even if Tang doesn't give a crap about whether fans support the team in the way Tang thinks is appropriate, I'm sure media partners have reached out to the AD's office about this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 18, 2023, 09:24:32 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 18, 2023, 09:27:25 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

I think several on this board have already put forward pretty compelling arguments as to why the F-KU chant is one of the dumbest things to come out of the student section. The fact that a successful coach specifically says don't do it should really be the end of the discussion.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 18, 2023, 09:28:30 AM
i don't care if he wins 2 big 12s and goes to an elite 8. he's preachy and i don't like his voice

What if in the said elite 8, he barely beats a 16 seed by 7 and loses to an 11 seed by 16?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

I think several on this board have already put forward pretty compelling arguments as to why the F-KU chant is one of the dumbest things to come out of the student section. The fact that a successful coach specifically says don't do it should really be the end of the discussion.
Yup
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 18, 2023, 09:30:12 AM
I'm just here for the Gems from the Phog

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Phog gems! Phog gems! Phog gems! Phog gems!  Phog gems! Phog gems!  Phog gems! Phog gems! Phog gems!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 18, 2023, 09:35:11 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.

What all do you think motivates a coach to stay at a program? I'd put money (including assistant coach salaries), facilities, and AD relationship at the top, but you're telling me that fan support isn't a factor? Hell, even if Tang doesn't give a crap about whether fans support the team in the way Tang thinks is appropriate, I'm sure media partners have reached out to the AD's office about this kind of stuff.

I find it hard to believe that a grown man would leave a job because 18-22 year olds say "eff" and he doesn't like it.  Also, "media partners" don't give two shits about that chant.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 09:46:33 AM
I find it hard to believe some grown men don't want to be infringed on the chant. Move on!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: KSNimrod on January 18, 2023, 09:53:50 AM
Listen, if Jerome "Jackie Moon" Tang says we gonna love more then we gonna love more!  Go CATS!!!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 18, 2023, 10:26:48 AM
I'm not going to do a Phogistan Gems, but they are not impressed with KJ.

The my team is good so I have a higher basketball IQ than you crowd clearly understands the roles that players are asked to take within the context of a particular team.

Also, the KU Fun Police as expected were and are out in full force.

It's not a rivalry, we just completely meltdown whenever we lose in the it's not a rivalry





Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 18, 2023, 10:31:10 AM
Self's skin looked unhealth
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 10:32:34 AM
Self's skin looked unhealth
People who hide multiple affairs', a hair piece, NCAA infractions, etc. takes a toll on a person over time.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 18, 2023, 10:35:15 AM
They're taking a solid moral victory from Jalen "high volume shooter" Wilson's performance in 45 minutes of game action.




Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2023, 10:37:07 AM
were any of you guys surprised when Wilson got to 30 points? it felt like an awfully quiet 38 points, just a lot of identical drives down the right post and made FTs. 3 for 10 from 3pt land.

not trying to degrade him or his performance, just saying i was surprised he had that many points
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 10:42:19 AM
I honestly never notice when another player goes off, because I'm so focused on our own individual players. Gradey Dick was the only one I was terrified about going into that game, because he represent everything I hate. He's a Duke prototype.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
Do you, Fanning, actually believe that a grown man would change jobs because some college kids say "eff?"

Come on, man.

I do think it can be a continuing factor yes. It pretty rough ridin' clearly speaks to a larger culture that he's trying to clean up. It's not just some people saying eff, but it's a mindset and it's the ability to develop a culture in and around your program. When he's assessing where he wants to coach it would be great if he didn't even have to think about our moron fans being obsessed with KU. Also worth noting that he has a daughter who is a freshman at K-State. He also are recruiting players and their families when he asks them to turn on ESPN and watch our games, it would be great if those players and families we are recruiting doesn't have to hear "eff KU" 45 seconds into the broadcast starting. This is clearly a concept for you and some others to understand but not everyone shares your cavalier attitude of the word eff.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 10:45:04 AM
oscar was awesome for the first 6 years but he refused to adjust to modern day transfer portal NIL recruiting and went full Snyder 2.0 on his coaching staff at the end. We have been blessed with 4 straight coaches that have given us excitement and good times. I love Tang the most of them all though.
You're always a premier truth teller
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2023, 10:45:26 AM
I think that chant will be gone by next year. There will still be people chanting it, but enough people will chant K-S-U to drown them out.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 10:47:48 AM
I think that chant will be gone by next year. There will still be people chanting it, but enough people will chant K-S-U to drown them out.
Hopefully fans PI the dipshits that try and do it.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 18, 2023, 10:47:53 AM
Self's skin looked unhealth
.

Bloated and red. Like he drinks a lot. Looks very stressed out too.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 10:49:41 AM
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1615751205421973513?s=20&t=bbLawFmZxeIcnBGqsI1YZg
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 18, 2023, 10:56:25 AM
I don't know if the chant will ever die. It's just too much fun and has such a long history. Catering to Tang may end it or hoops, but it'll ring out in football. I do think Tang will end the KU victory court storming tradition.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 10:59:58 AM
You know what's more fun? Shutting the eff up and pleasing our very successful coaches and their wishes as they continue to win at high levels. That crap is way more fun.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 18, 2023, 11:01:30 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.

Is the stunted thing a bit? I am just jumping back onto the board after a couple year hiatus, and I can't really tell. Whether it's in earnest or not, it sucks incredibly bad. Go cats.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 11:03:39 AM
 :love: :love:
https://twitter.com/Bobmurfy/status/1615553340393267203?s=20&t=YDF02Z84vWy0VtVrZvDxzA
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
Holy crap! This dude is such a cry baby, bitch.

https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/1615542888431067138?s=20&t=YDF02Z84vWy0VtVrZvDxzA
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 18, 2023, 11:13:55 AM
KU going full Iowa State with grievances would be the real cherry on top of a good win.

FWIW - I feel like I see some daylight under that upper-back area in the still shot!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on January 18, 2023, 11:16:50 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.

Is the stunted thing a bit? I am just jumping back onto the board after a couple year hiatus, and I can't really tell. Whether it's in earnest or not, it sucks incredibly bad. Go cats.

yes, it's a bit. And yes, it really sucks.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 18, 2023, 11:24:23 AM
They're going to be so pissed for the game in Lawrence. Will be fun to see how our guys respond to that environment. KU is going to be jacked up.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 11:27:25 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.

Is the stunted thing a bit? I am just jumping back onto the board after a couple year hiatus, and I can't really tell. Whether it's in earnest or not, it sucks incredibly bad. Go cats.

yes, it's a bit. And yes, it really sucks.

I had to put him on ignore, he was too effective at triggering me
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 18, 2023, 11:35:31 AM
Personally I think everyone except stunz should shut the eff up about Oscar and move on.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 18, 2023, 11:38:47 AM
It's a bit in that he thinks he's making a point about those who didn't adore Oscar. It's not a bit in that he was a forever Oscar guy who had he had his way, Oscar would have been give a lifetime contract. With that, he's sincerely envious and resentful of Tang's success. So a bit of a bit, but a larger bite of  sour grapes.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 18, 2023, 11:39:40 AM
Wow guys I woke up this morning feeling like a champion. Feels good.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 18, 2023, 12:01:02 PM
Holy crap! This dude is such a cry baby, bitch.

https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/1615542888431067138?s=20&t=YDF02Z84vWy0VtVrZvDxzA

It's odd he posted that image because he is clearly not out of bounds at that point, and was in the process of passing the ball before he laid flat on the floor.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 18, 2023, 12:06:33 PM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.

I'm talking about how any mentions of Tang going elsewhere sends our fanbase into panic mode.  It's a great thing if our coach is someone other schools would be interested in.

I'm done in regards to the chant.  I'll never see eye-to-eye with people who worry about a word.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 18, 2023, 12:10:10 PM
It's super easy to point at one instance like that, but there were 3-4 of very similar instances last night and none of them were called(both sides).  There were an absolute crazy amount of fouls not called last night.  If you are someone who wants all fouls called, the refs were awful.  However, they did it very evenly, imo. 

The main thing I had issue with was at the end when we had a fast break with the ball in Johnson's hands, and they stopped the play because Wilson had a slight limp on the other end of the floor.  He was on his own two feet, slight limp, they blew the whistle, limp immediately went away and he wasn't made to leave the court at all.  Some bullshit theater kid crap took away a fast break from us at the end of the game.  That made me ragey, but the rest was pretty even, imo.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2023, 12:12:51 PM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.

I'm talking about how any mentions of Tang going elsewhere sends our fanbase into panic mode.  It's a great thing if our coach is someone other schools would be interested in.

I'm done in regards to the chant.  I'll never see eye-to-eye with people who worry about a word.
Tang's made it very clear its not about the F word, it's about focusing on the other team rather than our own. He hasn't said anything about a "BULLSHIT" chant or any other time the fans use bad words
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 18, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
Self's skin looked unhealth
.

Bloated and red. Like he drinks a lot. Looks very stressed out too.
The fam and I were noting how unhealthy Bill looked during the broadcast last night. He may soon rival Bob Huggins for most likely to require defibrillation during a game. In contrast, our Coach radiates health and vitality. The contrast could not be more stark.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 18, 2023, 01:15:30 PM
It's super easy to point at one instance like that, but there were 3-4 of very similar instances last night and none of them were called(both sides).  There were an absolute crazy amount of fouls not called last night.  If you are someone who wants all fouls called, the refs were awful.  However, they did it very evenly, imo. 

The main thing I had issue with was at the end when we had a fast break with the ball in Johnson's hands, and they stopped the play because Wilson had a slight limp on the other end of the floor.  He was on his own two feet, slight limp, they blew the whistle, limp immediately went away and he wasn't made to leave the court at all.  Some bullshit theater kid crap took away a fast break from us at the end of the game.  That made me ragey, but the rest was pretty even, imo.

Yes like if you’re going to stop play for an injury the injured guy should at least have to come out of the game until there’s an opportunity to sub or ku has to spend a timeout, idk something at least
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: goCats101 on January 18, 2023, 01:17:09 PM
Most fun I’ve had watching KState hoops in a while. I was a junior at MHS when Beasley and co beat KU at home in 2008. Remember running through campus and by Bramlage earlier that afternoon seeing the crazy line of students waiting for entry. That was a fun game to watch and last nights matchup kind of took me back to that same feeling.

Enjoying the ride Coach Tang and this team are taking us on.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 18, 2023, 01:18:51 PM
Also, wacky, real talk - it did not escape my notice that during the game and then for an hour or so after you stayed out of this thread. And I just wanted to say thank you. It was nice to be able to enjoy this victory with other gErs without you doing your thing, and I do sincerely appreciate you giving me a couple hours
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 01:21:20 PM
Bro, get a life. I was too busy rewatching the game. I didn't have the time to deal with browns.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 18, 2023, 01:44:04 PM
Most fun I’ve had watching KState hoops in a while. I was a junior at MHS when Beasley and co beat KU at home in 2008. Remember running through campus and by Bramlage earlier that afternoon seeing the crazy line of students waiting for entry. That was a fun game to watch and last nights matchup kind of took me back to that same feeling.

Enjoying the ride Coach Tang and this team are taking us on.

I guess I'm weird. I admittedly am not much of a basketball guy, but aside from winning and the opp to take the lead, this game was brutal. Especially the second half. Watching dudes shoot free throws for 3 hours just isn't my idea of a good time. I love coach and am really glad we won though!!!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 18, 2023, 01:50:42 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 18, 2023, 02:10:39 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
It's super easy to point at one instance like that, but there were 3-4 of very similar instances last night and none of them were called(both sides).  There were an absolute crazy amount of fouls not called last night.  If you are someone who wants all fouls called, the refs were awful.  However, they did it very evenly, imo. 

The main thing I had issue with was at the end when we had a fast break with the ball in Johnson's hands, and they stopped the play because Wilson had a slight limp on the other end of the floor.  He was on his own two feet, slight limp, they blew the whistle, limp immediately went away and he wasn't made to leave the court at all.  Some bullshit theater kid crap took away a fast break from us at the end of the game.  That made me ragey, but the rest was pretty even, imo.

I didn't have an issue with that no call on Keyonte's layup at the end of regulation. What I did have an issue with was Wilson getting 4 free throws in overtime for the same damn play. I saw Tang complaining about that too.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 02:16:14 PM
Most fun I’ve had watching KState hoops in a while. I was a junior at MHS when Beasley and co beat KU at home in 2008. Remember running through campus and by Bramlage earlier that afternoon seeing the crazy line of students waiting for entry. That was a fun game to watch and last nights matchup kind of took me back to that same feeling.

Enjoying the ride Coach Tang and this team are taking us on.

I guess I'm weird. I admittedly am not much of a basketball guy, but aside from winning and the opp to take the lead, this game was brutal. Especially the second half. Watching dudes shoot free throws for 3 hours just isn't my idea of a good time. I love coach and am really glad we won though!!!  :ksu:

I don't think it was a very well played game, definitely a rock fight, that crap happens sometimes though, it's nice to win them.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2023, 02:22:21 PM
It's super easy to point at one instance like that, but there were 3-4 of very similar instances last night and none of them were called(both sides).  There were an absolute crazy amount of fouls not called last night.  If you are someone who wants all fouls called, the refs were awful.  However, they did it very evenly, imo. 

The main thing I had issue with was at the end when we had a fast break with the ball in Johnson's hands, and they stopped the play because Wilson had a slight limp on the other end of the floor.  He was on his own two feet, slight limp, they blew the whistle, limp immediately went away and he wasn't made to leave the court at all.  Some bullshit theater kid crap took away a fast break from us at the end of the game.  That made me ragey, but the rest was pretty even, imo.

I thought the worst call of the game was when a KU player went over the back for a put back and drew a foul call in the process. Don't remember who it was, but it was a god awful call. Also, there were so many whistles where a driving player jumped away from the basket. Weak shots like that should never draw fouls.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

Yeah, Tang has been constant and consistent with his praise of the students. We have a good student body, like other places like KU and Iowa State, what sets us apart is where our students are located. Big Game Boomer, who was trolling as always, said we by far have the best students in America and Purdue, KU, and flood aggie fans predictably lost their crap.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 02:25:40 PM
It's super easy to point at one instance like that, but there were 3-4 of very similar instances last night and none of them were called(both sides).  There were an absolute crazy amount of fouls not called last night.  If you are someone who wants all fouls called, the refs were awful.  However, they did it very evenly, imo. 

The main thing I had issue with was at the end when we had a fast break with the ball in Johnson's hands, and they stopped the play because Wilson had a slight limp on the other end of the floor.  He was on his own two feet, slight limp, they blew the whistle, limp immediately went away and he wasn't made to leave the court at all.  Some bullshit theater kid crap took away a fast break from us at the end of the game.  That made me ragey, but the rest was pretty even, imo.

I thought the worst call of the game was when a KU player went over the back for a put back and drew a foul call in the process. Don't remember who it was, but it was a god awful call. Also, there were so many whistles where a driving player jumped away from the basket. Weak shots like that should never draw fouls.

BayBay was called for that foul. I remember because it was seemingly the only time he was in position to get a rebound all night.

Sidebar, holy crap was he terrible last night. Woof. I like the kid, but man we're really missing N'Guessan.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 02:34:13 PM
Nguessan, Rich, Colbert, Mys Transfer should be an upgrade in post play for 2023.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 18, 2023, 02:41:24 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 18, 2023, 03:00:53 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.

In general I would agree, but I could also see the viewpoint of “I’m fine with the students being angry bc students can boo at the refs all they want and the players can’t” so even when the players would love to protest a crap call, they know the students will give them the business.

But! The constant booing at every perceived sleight is very small timey Iowa state crap, so I suppose there’s a fine line
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 18, 2023, 03:06:18 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.

In general I would agree, but I could also see the viewpoint of “I’m fine with the students being angry bc students can boo at the refs all they want and the players can’t” so even when the players would love to protest a crap call, they know the students will give them the business.

But! The constant booing at every perceived sleight is very small timey Iowa state crap, so I suppose there’s a fine line

I can’t think of a single instance in all my years of watching bball in the OOD where rampant booing, bad vibes led to inspired play or a KSU run.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 18, 2023, 03:09:41 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.

In general I would agree, but I could also see the viewpoint of “I’m fine with the students being angry bc students can boo at the refs all they want and the players can’t” so even when the players would love to protest a crap call, they know the students will give them the business.

But! The constant booing at every perceived sleight is very small timey Iowa state crap, so I suppose there’s a fine line

I can’t think of a single instance in all my years of watching bball in the OOD where rampant booing, bad vibes led to inspired play or a KSU run.

Nic my dude, do you mean to tell me you’ve never been caught in a sandstorm?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 18, 2023, 03:12:07 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.

In general I would agree, but I could also see the viewpoint of “I’m fine with the students being angry bc students can boo at the refs all they want and the players can’t” so even when the players would love to protest a crap call, they know the students will give them the business.

But! The constant booing at every perceived sleight is very small timey Iowa state crap, so I suppose there’s a fine line

I can’t think of a single instance in all my years of watching bball in the OOD where rampant booing, bad vibes led to inspired play or a KSU run.

Nic my dude, do you mean to tell me you’ve never been caught in a sandstorm?

That’s positive energy, regardless of the chant. Especially during game play, during a timeout.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 03:47:18 PM
If anything, our student section is a big reason why a coach would take this job (as stated by Tang), and a big reason to stick with the job (if you can get a kid to visit and see our wall of students along the court, it makes an impression).

I don't understand why other teams, particularly KU, get upset about people praising the Bramlage atmosphere.  We have 30% or so of the crowd being rowdy students.  Most schools don't.  They'll consistently make more money on tickets (even against our best years) because of their ratio, but those donors can't compete with student energy.  It's comparing apples to oranges.

It’s an advantage present at KSU that is tougher to replicate at most places. Tang thinks it needs fine-tuned both to jive with his values and convictions, but also to provide the most decided advantage. I agree with him that an joyful, exuberant crowd is more advantageous than a bitter, angry antagonistic crowd.

In general I would agree, but I could also see the viewpoint of “I’m fine with the students being angry bc students can boo at the refs all they want and the players can’t” so even when the players would love to protest a crap call, they know the students will give them the business.

But! The constant booing at every perceived sleight is very small timey Iowa state crap, so I suppose there’s a fine line

He doesn't care about the students being angry.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 18, 2023, 03:59:21 PM
I kind of like the anger at every little thing. It might not inspire better play on the court but I do think it subconsciously weighs on the refs over the course of the game.

Bill Self (and plenty of other good coaches) basically do the same thing by constantly being in the ref’s ear.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: j-von on January 18, 2023, 04:25:11 PM
I kind of like the anger at every little thing. It might not inspire better play on the court but I do think it subconsciously weighs on the refs over the course of the game.

Bill Self (and plenty of other good coaches) basically do the same thing by constantly being in the ref’s ear.

The end of the OSU game was a prime example of this.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: 8manpick on January 18, 2023, 07:23:00 PM
Shut up about the chant, this is honestly worse than the chant itself
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2023, 07:41:31 PM
No, it's not.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 18, 2023, 07:53:50 PM
to sandstorm or not to sandstorm, that is the question

the chant is dumb, sandstorm is not.  no chant, sandstorm.  chant, no sandstorm.
the right thing to do for a lot of reasons, including sandstorm, is to man up and stop the chant.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 18, 2023, 08:03:48 PM
So I'm watching the WVU student crowd chant "bad person," "bullshit" and "dumbass" throughout the game. I don't imagine Huggins is goin to lecture them
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 08:03:58 PM
I say play sandstorm and let the chips fall
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 18, 2023, 08:16:21 PM
I say play sandstorm and let the chips fall

This is the best answer. The lack of sandstorm isn’t going to resolve anything. Play it to better the experience. The students have proven they will chant no matter what. Tang, the AD, and or  whoever need to address the chant independent of the song.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:19:30 PM
So I'm watching the WVU student crowd chant "bad person," "bullshit" and "dumbass" throughout the game. I don't imagine Huggins is goin to lecture them
Yeah, he’s a washed blowhard and 0-6 in league. Great observation!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:26:44 PM
Shut up about the chant, this is honestly worse than the chant itself
It’s a tough conversation for some who hold it dearly, I get it, but I’d rather have consistent success with thee guy, over getting your anger out for a few hours a year. Just go see someone.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 18, 2023, 08:32:10 PM
It’s a dumb chant!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 18, 2023, 09:24:20 PM
So I'm watching the WVU student crowd chant "bad person," "bullshit" and "dumbass" throughout the game. I don't imagine Huggins is goin to lecture them

Explain to me the relevance of this comment?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 18, 2023, 10:30:23 PM
Really? smh
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 18, 2023, 10:33:26 PM
Someone needs to watch The History of Curse Words on Netflix.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 19, 2023, 08:45:30 AM
the little man syndrome in our fanbase is going to get really old, really quickly, though.  His name will always be up for big jobs, doesn't mean he's leaving.  If his name is up for those jobs then that means we're having success, so enjoy it.

You don't find using the phrase "little man syndrome in our fan base" while caping up for the eff KU chant, ironic? Are you intentionally being ironic but I'm missing it? That's gotta be it, you're being much more clever than stunted.


I'm talking about how any mentions of Tang going elsewhere sends our fanbase into panic mode.  It's a great thing if our coach is someone other schools would be interested in.

I'm done in regards to the chant.  I'll never see eye-to-eye with people who worry about a word.

Its not about a word. Its about the little dick energy in projects.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 19, 2023, 09:20:15 AM
The chant is dumb, talking about the chant is dumb, seeing a bunch of k-state fans pointing out mizzou doing it is dumb. It's gotten to the "culture wars/cancel culture" level of back and forth from a bunch of people on all sides giving too much care what some 18-22 year olds do for one song. I wish it didn't happen, but stopping it is impossible.

ku fans do the same things but for other stuff, rip their rough ridin' heads off was a thing I heard plenty of times from them on kick offs, tons of dumb people do dumb things,
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2023, 09:31:21 AM
It's not impossible to stop. Jerome Tang will have it stopped very soon.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 09:48:13 AM
Really? smh

Yeah, really. I don't know who or what you're referencing. You're seemingly referencing Tang supposedly lecturing the students for swearing, but he never once did that. Even if he did, in which I'll say again that he didn't, it's real clear that his program has a very different culture than the culture of a Bob Huggins program.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 09:49:33 AM
The chant is dumb, talking about the chant is dumb, seeing a bunch of k-state fans pointing out mizzou doing it is dumb. It's gotten to the "culture wars/cancel culture" level of back and forth from a bunch of people on all sides giving too much care what some 18-22 year olds do for one song. I wish it didn't happen, but stopping it is impossible.

ku fans do the same things but for other stuff, rip their rough ridin' heads off was a thing I heard plenty of times from them on kick offs, tons of dumb people do dumb things,

Worth noting that they received criticism for that and stopped doing it.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2023, 09:50:51 AM
It's not impossible to stop. Jerome Tang will have it stopped very soon.

If anyone can do it, it’s definitely him.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 19, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
So I'm watching the WVU student crowd chant "bad person," "bullshit" and "dumbass" throughout the game. I don't imagine Huggins is goin to lecture them

i'm not 100% sure you listened to anything Tang said

Tang's made it very clear its not about the F word, it's about focusing on the other team rather than our own. He hasn't said anything about a "BULLSHIT" chant or any other time the fans use bad words
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on January 19, 2023, 10:14:26 AM
The chant is juvenile and makes our student section look boorish and dumb (and inconsiderate of innocent youngsters in attendance), but Tang retweeted a video clip of it.  Maybe it doesn't bother him as much as he has implied.  Whatever.  Replace it with something more clever and/or classy - problem solved.  I don't get the attachment to this "tradition" - particularly if our coveted new coach hates it.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 19, 2023, 11:55:32 AM
You can post tweets here TPT
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 19, 2023, 12:12:09 PM
What kind of simple brain thinks that the FKU chant is actually cool or funny?

I've never understood it.  It's just a profane twist of the low self esteem schools who mention their rivals by name in their fight songs.  Like the weirdo cult at Texas A&M.



Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 19, 2023, 02:19:00 PM
Just realized something but with that W on Tuesday that means the team this season has more wins over ranked opponents than the previous 3 seasons…combined.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on January 20, 2023, 01:43:12 AM
You can post tweets here TPT
Can't see Tang's retweet annotation, but here it is:
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/1615498105201238017
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: deputy dawg on January 20, 2023, 11:52:16 AM
You can post tweets here TPT
Can't see Tang's retweet annotation, but here it is:
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/1615498105201238017

My gawd that is sad.  It screams "tiny weiner".  No wonder KU doesn't take our fanbase seriously.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2023, 03:49:11 PM
You can post tweets here TPT
Can't see Tang's retweet annotation, but here it is:
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/1615498105201238017

My gawd that is sad.  It screams "tiny weiner".  No wonder KU doesn't take our fanbase seriously.

I'm sure the chanters think this is amazing. While the ball is in play, against another supposed rival. crap's embarrassing.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1615921102462619654
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 20, 2023, 04:17:52 PM
Man that looks so losery. Even moreso after KU beat their ass this year.

I’ve said it before, I do like the loud reaction to every perceived slight at the OOD, but the chant makes it look like you have no identity.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 20, 2023, 04:19:47 PM
Maybe it’s time for KU to reflect on why college kids are so passionate about rough ridin' them
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 20, 2023, 10:15:43 PM
Yep. Need to clean up their side of the street.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 20, 2023, 11:20:53 PM
"I keep my side of the street clee-eeeaan, (k)you wouldn't know what I mean." - Taylor Swift
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: KSUfaithful on January 20, 2023, 11:26:29 PM
The “chant” is so immature and overplayed. It screams insecurity and embarrassment. No wonder we are small timey
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 07:38:19 AM
If they really want to stop the chant, they should simply stop the game whenever they can audibly detect a group of any material size chanting it.  Then eject the entire student section.  Then continue to the game.  If they find that it's unworkable to clear the student section, simply forfeit the game.

Problem solved.  Do that once or twice, and the students will self-police and stop it before it starts.   Makes you wonder why they don't do this.  Are they just saying they that they don't like the chant?   Do they like winning more than they dislike the chant? 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 07:39:45 AM
Also, they could they create a new student conduct rule that states that if you are caught doing the chant, you are kicked out of school.  They just start the enforcement by grabbing kids randomly who are observed doing the chant and expel them from the school.

That's very simple to do.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 07:41:20 AM
Could also lobby the county or city to pass a $1000 fine for chanting "eff" in a public place. Have the same cops police the OOD that normally walk around Aggieville handing out MIP's.  Grab a few kids, hit them with a $1K fine.  Grab a few more each time it happens.  It will stop eventually. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 21, 2023, 07:52:08 AM
I like all of Pete's ideas on this.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 21, 2023, 07:58:35 AM
You guys could hire some mutant fake wrestler to come in and hype the crowd up before the game and at halftime, and he could say the chant wrong.  Just really awkward and crap brained, and yet still super pumped about it.  Could have a big chilling effect.

https://twitter.com/ALionEye/status/1616258430569746433

https://twitter.com/ALionEye/status/1616263383602368512

https://twitter.com/DanteFurco/status/1616237546987470848

  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: chum1 on January 21, 2023, 08:12:03 AM
As a townie high schooler and child of faculty, I would mess around on campus more than a little. Mostly pick up games at the rec. I just kinda took it for granted that all of this university stuff was at my disposal. My dad said something to me around that time that gave me a new perspective. Something like, "remember, the university is really for the students."

To me, students are gonna be students and people should keep in mind that when they go to a game, they're really on the students' turf.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 21, 2023, 08:32:40 AM
I mean, the Rec is for students, in that you can’t just get a membership if you’re a regular old townie. (At least I don’t think you can, or you couldn’t decades ago.)  Games are totally different. It’s a public university and the games are open to — and also dependent on — the public.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: chum1 on January 21, 2023, 08:47:29 AM
Without students, there is no university. Without a university, there are no games.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 08:58:03 AM
I mean, the Rec is for students, in that you can’t just get a membership if you’re a regular old townie. (At least I don’t think you can, or you couldn’t decades ago.)  Games are totally different. It’s a public university and the games are open to — and also dependent on — the public.

Facility/Staff, their immediate family members, and members of the alumni association could and still can all buy memberships to the rec. When I worked there, and I'm sure this is still the case, the rec before noon was all townies and high school kids would always be there on weekend afternoons.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 21, 2023, 09:25:25 AM
The easiest way to stop the chant is to win the NCAA, and I hope Tang makes it his life’s goal to stamp it out.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: waks on January 21, 2023, 09:34:34 AM
Without students, there is no university. Without a university, there are no games.
Without alumni, their donations and their support, there is no athletics department and pretty much no university. I'm sure Dax has more insight but pretty sure the university would struggle to exist without the private money.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2023, 09:41:56 AM
Could also lobby the county or city to pass a $1000 fine for chanting "eff" in a public place. Have the same cops police the OOD that normally walk around Aggieville handing out MIP's.  Grab a few kids, hit them with a $1K fine.  Grab a few more each time it happens.  It will stop eventually.

Pete fwiw I'd be completely fine with summary execution as punishment for The Chant
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2023, 09:44:14 AM
Put collars on students, it shocks you if you do the chant.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2023, 10:06:06 AM
What if they just change the Chant to like Lets Go Brandon (Rush)!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:23:08 AM
What if they just change the Chant to like Lets Go Brandon (Rush)!

"Let's go Bill"(Self) has the same syllable's as "eff KU."  Might actually work.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:26:27 AM
Still, my favorite idea is to clear the student section, and take a technical foul for the delay of game caused by clearing the student section...or as many technical fouls as required due to the time it takes to clear the student section.  If it's 50 it's 50. 

Of course if this presents a fire hazard or safety issue, then simply forfeit the game.

WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT? WINNING GAMES OR STOPPING THIS CHAT? EACH EVERY MAN A WILDCAT MUST ASK THEMSELVES THAT!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:33:28 AM
Everything we have tried to dissuade the students from doing the chant has failed.  All this clutching at pearls...and zero real action.  Either people are lying about being offended about the chant (secretly loving it), or they are ineffective leaders that should themselves be removed.

Certainly the alumni and non-student fans in attendance would not object to taking this stand have their entertainment shortened for the evening when the game is forfeited. 

Take real action, or shut the eff up.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2023, 10:40:45 AM
Everything we have tried to dissuade the students from doing the chant has failed.  All this clutching at pearls...and zero real action.  Either people are lying about being offended about the chant (secretly loving it), or they are ineffective leaders that should themselves be removed.

Certainly the alumni and non-student fans in attendance would not object to taking this stand have their entertainment shortened for the evening when the game is forfeited. 

Take real action, or shut the eff up.

Pete I think it's pretty clear we have a fanbase of freaks. Outwardly they wear purple and decry The Chant. But under that purple they're wearing latex and chains and ball gags and are pleasuring themselves whenever they hear The Chant and it's disgusting
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 21, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
An idea I’ve been mulling over is politely asking the chanters not to be whiny little baby bitches about it and act like they’re supporting a team that is obsessed with competing for championships instead of beating one team.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:45:04 AM
Yep. I don’t want to read the word “should” in this thread ever again.

“oh the students should just stop.”  Only the strong stop chants (OTSC, brother).
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:47:08 AM
An idea I’ve been mulling over is politely asking the chanters not to be whiny little baby bitches about it and act like they’re supporting a team that is obsessed with competing for championships instead of beating one team.
I HAVE A SNEAKING SUSPENSION THAT WILL NOT WORK AND THEN YOU WILL USE THE S WORD!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2023, 10:48:32 AM
THE W IN EMAW DOES NOT STAND FOR WHINY-$!#*!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 21, 2023, 10:53:06 AM
An idea I’ve been mulling over is politely asking the chanters not to be whiny little baby bitches about it and act like they’re supporting a team that is obsessed with competing for championships instead of beating one team.
I HAVE A SNEAKING SUSPENSION THAT WILL NOT WORK AND THEN YOU WILL USE THE S WORD!
I’m still workshopping it
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2023, 10:59:02 AM
Fwiw as a licensed professional engineer who writes a lot of specs (specifications) I can tell you any engineer worth their salt does not allow the word SHOULD in their specs. The correct word is SHALL and if you're feeling especially froggy...MUST.

(I hope any other spec writers/editors read this blog post and go make their specs better if they aren't already)
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 21, 2023, 11:08:50 AM
My memory of The Chant is that it started during a timeout in a game against the squawks while sandstorm (a sarcastic nod to jersey shore’s popularity at the time) was playing and when massa seff thought it was a 30 second timeout and sent his players on the floor to stand there and be serenaded with eff KU. It was hilarious and we won and everyone was exuberant and for some time The Chant had nothing to do with basketball or squawks or anything other than calling back to that great time EMAW’s had in unison at that moment.

And then the school made a big deal about it as if it was some official tradition that needed to be regulated and it’s carried on only because of the attention it got, with the battles over it being pretty amusing and distracting from anything on the court/field.

Am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: KITNfury on January 21, 2023, 01:21:39 PM
Fwiw as a licensed professional engineer who writes a lot of specs (specifications) I can tell you any engineer worth their salt does not allow the word SHOULD in their specs. The correct word is SHALL and if you're feeling especially froggy...MUST.

(I hope any other spec writers/editors read this blog post and go make their specs better if they aren't already)
The Shan't
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 21, 2023, 04:42:37 PM
My memory of The Chant is that it started during a timeout in a game against the squawks while sandstorm (a sarcastic nod to jersey shore’s popularity at the time) was playing and when massa seff thought it was a 30 second timeout and sent his players on the floor to stand there and be serenaded with eff KU. It was hilarious and we won and everyone was exuberant and for some time The Chant had nothing to do with basketball or squawks or anything other than calling back to that great time EMAW’s had in unison at that moment.

And then the school made a big deal about it as if it was some official tradition that needed to be regulated and it’s carried on only because of the attention it got, with the battles over it being pretty amusing and distracting from anything on the court/field.

Am I misremembering?

You're remembering how it started but the university didn't start caring until it started happening when we were playing other teams, then during the wabash cannonball, then during football games against FCS schools. Basically it became an issue when it started to be as embarrassing as Missouri doing it in the middle of conference games.

It jumped the shark, thankfully Tang has shot the [redacted] in the head.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2023, 11:55:23 PM
If Tang didn't kill any debate on the chant, certainly the Iowa State student section did.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on January 30, 2023, 08:58:42 PM
What are the chances that we get a eff Kstate chant tomorrow?


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 30, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
30%
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:16 PM
Squawks would never allow themselves to have that much fun
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
I’ve decided that if they win, I am ok with them rushing the court.

Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2023, 07:46:31 AM
Good Dillon's Morning, everyone!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 31, 2023, 07:56:51 AM
Fwiw as a licensed professional engineer who writes a lot of specs (specifications) I can tell you any engineer worth their salt does not allow the word SHOULD in their specs. The correct word is SHALL and if you're feeling especially froggy...MUST.

(I hope any other spec writers/editors read this blog post and go make their specs better if they aren't already)

This is correct, even "must" is not a good thing to do. As is insure/ensure/guarantee and other such no go words.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: schreds21 on January 31, 2023, 08:44:33 AM
Fwiw as a licensed professional engineer who writes a lot of specs (specifications) I can tell you any engineer worth their salt does not allow the word SHOULD in their specs. The correct word is SHALL and if you're feeling especially froggy...MUST.

(I hope any other spec writers/editors read this blog post and go make their specs better if they aren't already)

This is correct, even "must" is not a good thing to do. As is insure/ensure/guarantee and other such no go words.
Pffft....Like anybody reads those things anyway.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 31, 2023, 09:18:42 AM
Fwiw as a licensed professional engineer who writes a lot of specs (specifications) I can tell you any engineer worth their salt does not allow the word SHOULD in their specs. The correct word is SHALL and if you're feeling especially froggy...MUST.

(I hope any other spec writers/editors read this blog post and go make their specs better if they aren't already)

(https://media.tenor.com/lNMyjjSWLYcAAAAM/my-man-my-man-denzel.gif)

Also, not feeling good about our chances in the piss barn tonight.  I'm betting the over but staying away from a side. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 31, 2023, 09:32:59 AM
I’ve decided that if they win, I am ok with them rushing the court.

Agreed, it would be a big win for them.  Btw, am I the only one who think that the squaks have been quiet going in today's mildly entertaining game?  :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)

Hope we're not looking ahead to Saturday's game..  :ohno: (ftp://:ohno:)
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 31, 2023, 09:34:33 AM
how does one steal espn+
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 31, 2023, 09:45:36 AM
I feel better about our chances that I have ever felt about a game in Lawrence.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 31, 2023, 09:56:23 AM
was Wooly's last year ('05/06 i think?) the last time we won there? i know hugs didn't beat ku at all and i don't remember either frank or oscar winning on the road
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 31, 2023, 10:10:25 AM
is N'Guessan healthy? Thought he limped off the court last game.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2023, 10:32:27 AM
When was the last time we swept ku?  If it’s been a long time, and I am pretty sure it might have been forever, I am ok with us rushing their court too.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2023, 11:05:38 AM
how does one steal espn+

You probably have it and don’t even know it. Disney bundles it with Hulu and or Disney+ and I think Verizon too.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Gooch on January 31, 2023, 11:10:52 AM
How do you access it through HULU? I just checked and the sports section is blank.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2023, 11:19:10 AM
How do you access it through HULU? I just checked and the sports section is blank.
do you have "hulu plus live TV" or just plain hulu?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 11:23:50 AM
The fact the game is on the garbageist of garbage streaming services is just ridiculous
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Gooch on January 31, 2023, 11:25:09 AM
How do you access it through HULU? I just checked and the sports section is blank.
do you have "hulu plus live TV" or just plain hulu?
:dunno: The wife got it to watch that GOP wet dream show. I would bet it is plain hulu.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 31, 2023, 11:50:04 AM
At least last I knew you could get Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+ all separately. But if you were gonna pay for two of them it was cheaper to just bundle.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 31, 2023, 12:09:52 PM
GERG!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2023, 12:34:56 PM
How do you access it through HULU? I just checked and the sports section is blank.
do you have "hulu plus live TV" or just plain hulu?
:dunno: The wife got it to watch that GOP wet dream show. I would bet it is plain hulu.
It is on the hulu plus live tv but not plain hulu. If you use disney +, I think the disney +, plain hulu, espn+ bundle is the same cost as just plain hulu and disney +
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on January 31, 2023, 12:50:45 PM
line is up to +8.5

bEwArE tHe pHoG
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 31, 2023, 01:16:03 PM
turns out I have ESPN+
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 01:35:34 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 31, 2023, 01:37:17 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

ESPN sets the time and channel for all of its basketball games before the season starts, and KSU has finished around last for the last few years.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 31, 2023, 01:38:30 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

imo, part of it is because we were supposed to be booty this year and the @KU games aren't usually too close. also i think they do want to put some "bigger" games on ESPN+ to get some more subscriptions.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 31, 2023, 01:40:45 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

ESPN sets the time and channel for all of its basketball games before the season starts, and KSU has finished around last for the last few years.

welcome to college basketball spracs
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on January 31, 2023, 01:41:20 PM
this was on + before the season started so It's certainly because kstate was supposed to blow.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 01:46:22 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

ESPN sets the time and channel for all of its basketball games before the season starts, and KSU has finished around last for the last few years.

welcome to college basketball spracs

And that was what I thought, but what I didn't know was whether there were any ability to flex scheduling during the season, like the NFL does. I guess the answer is no?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 31, 2023, 01:47:51 PM
I'm sure the national media will check the scores tomorrow morning and notice our ho-hum victory over a top 10 Kansas. Probably will decide to slap us in the face with a no. 5 or 6 ranking next week.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 01:52:30 PM
IF KU beats us they rush the court IMO
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 01:56:26 PM
IF KU beats us they rush the court IMO

 :jerk:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 02:03:04 PM
IF KU beats us they rush the court IMO
I sure hope they let themselves enjoy a game for once.

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Pete on January 31, 2023, 02:04:43 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

I AGREE WITH MANY PARTS OF THIS!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 31, 2023, 02:16:55 PM
IF KU beats us they rush the court IMO
I sure hope they let themselves enjoy a game for once.

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if they can pretend its a football game...
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: deputy dawg on January 31, 2023, 02:57:09 PM
IF KU beats us they rush the court IMO

 :jerk:
Spracne is absolutely correct.  All the middle-aged Johnson Countians won't have the moxie or energy to rush the court if the Squawks win.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2023, 03:20:26 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

I am just saying that if you guys wanted to, I would understand.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 31, 2023, 03:31:53 PM
First, we won't rush the court. Give me a break ...

Second, how is a traditional rivalry game among top 10 teams, one of whom is the defending champy, relegated to ESPN+? Is it because it's just the State of Kansas? Is it because the network folks expected KSU to be dead last when the TV schedules were made? I'm outraged that more people won't get to see us wax that #7 ass.

ESPN sets the time and channel for all of its basketball games before the season starts, and KSU has finished around last for the last few years.

welcome to college basketball spracs

And that was what I thought, but what I didn't know was whether there were any ability to flex scheduling during the season, like the NFL does. I guess the answer is no?

They flex between the 3 linear ESPN channels, not from linear to and from plus though
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 31, 2023, 03:34:18 PM
line is up to +8.5

bEwArE tHe pHoG

I think I am going to do it. With that being said, I was pissed that I didn't see Flood Aggie +2.5 last night in enough time to bet it, and we know how that turned out.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 31, 2023, 03:40:06 PM
line is up to +8.5

bEwArE tHe pHoG

I think I am going to do it. With that being said, I was pissed that I didn't see Flood Aggie +2.5 last night in enough time to bet it, and we know how that turned out.

I think the safe bet here is the over.  Too much variance to pick a side in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 31, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
@jmarks
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: IPA4Me on January 31, 2023, 04:17:08 PM
How do you access it through HULU? I just checked and the sports section is blank.
do you have "hulu plus live TV" or just plain hulu?
:dunno: The wife got it to watch that GOP wet dream show. I would bet it is plain hulu.
It is on the hulu plus live tv but not plain hulu. If you use disney +, I think the disney +, plain hulu, espn+ bundle is the same cost as just plain hulu and disney +
I have the bundle without live and watch on Hulu. No lag. Works much better than the espn+ app.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 04:30:02 PM
I have a thing tonight that should get over around 7:30 and I'm now regretting committing to it because I'll miss the start of the game.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 31, 2023, 06:05:58 PM
line is up to +8.5

bEwArE tHe pHoG

I think I am going to do it. With that being said, I was pissed that I didn't see Flood Aggie +2.5 last night in enough time to bet it, and we know how that turned out.

I think the safe bet here is the over.  Too much variance to pick a side in my opinion.

That +8.5 was only -110 so I hit the money line. I'm feeling confident, the 40 year streak ends tonight.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2023, 06:10:30 PM
The 40 year what now
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2023, 06:16:45 PM
The 40 year what now

Haven’t swept them in 40 yrs
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2023, 06:37:51 PM
These cats are dripped out

https://twitter.com/kstatembb/status/1620581477317750787?s=46&t=qJjvCXwtAz0BsEQZOKfwkg
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
Jay Bilas on the Plus? lol.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2023, 07:03:19 PM
You are really off your game today bud
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: IPA4Me on January 31, 2023, 07:11:55 PM
Game link.

https://sport365.stream/basketball/01-feb-23/kansas-kansas-wildcats

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 31, 2023, 07:12:13 PM
That charge call was shitty, refs are in their bag already.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 07:15:03 PM
That charge call was shitty, refs are in their bag already.
ya crappy charge call
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 31, 2023, 07:16:40 PM
Game link.

https://sport365.stream/basketball/01-feb-23/kansas-kansas-wildcats

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 31, 2023, 07:21:49 PM
I’m really confused as to what is and what is not an over the back foul
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2023, 07:23:11 PM
Spracne, what's with the jayhawk chop during free throws?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on January 31, 2023, 07:23:13 PM
Tang is not appreciating the officials
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2023, 07:24:01 PM
Classic Bill Self move here by tang
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 31, 2023, 07:24:17 PM
Has JT ever gotten T’d up or is the officiating really just that horrid?
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 07:25:00 PM
they are in the bonus with +10 minutes left in the first half?  cool!
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2023, 07:26:00 PM
Tang going to be leading the eff KU chant after tonight
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on January 31, 2023, 07:26:30 PM
Tang going to be leading the eff KU chant after tonight
LOL
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 31, 2023, 07:31:09 PM
Would be pretty cool if ku missed a 3 but I don’t really see that happening
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: michigancat on January 31, 2023, 07:32:03 PM
Would be pretty cool if ku missed a 3 but I don’t really see that happening
I mean they shot like 10% last game
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 07:32:40 PM
Spracne, what's with the jayhawk chop during free throws?

Idk. It wasn't a thing. They usually switch up the stupid "fake out" stuff, so who knows.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 07:35:29 PM
Has their fan base ever stood up this long for someone? It’s the Super Bowl of all Super Bowls for the hawks. They need this so badly.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Trim on January 31, 2023, 07:43:55 PM
Tang going to be leading the eff KU chant after tonight

:lol:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2023, 07:48:01 PM
Well, crap
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Spracne on January 31, 2023, 07:48:24 PM
Travis Kelce appears to be a KU fan.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 07:49:02 PM
At least they're being consistent in what is a foul and what isn't.  Both teams should easily be able to adjust to what they can do.

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kim carnes on January 31, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
We stink
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kim carnes on January 31, 2023, 07:58:37 PM
We had two flukey wins on the road early in conference play and have looked like ass ever since
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wiley on January 31, 2023, 08:02:08 PM
Travis Kelce appears to be a KU fan.
Definitely not a Cincinnati fan


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 08:02:14 PM
We had two flukey wins on the road early in conference play and have looked like ass ever since
Except, no one is winning on the road in this league at a good clip.   I'm not sure how you expected this game to go any different.   I would guess we claw back to 5 and then they win by 15.   

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 31, 2023, 08:06:12 PM
rough ridin' sloppy ballhandling rears its head again. Cleanup the TOs, ffs. Never win on the road with that many mistakes.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 31, 2023, 08:09:11 PM
rough ridin' sloppy ballhandling rears its head again. Cleanup the TOs, ffs. Never win on the road with that many mistakes.
Some real wtf TOS in the first half and KU’s patented runs and here we are…
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 08:09:38 PM
Gotta find a counter to the quick double they're putting on Nowell's backside.   Pretty decent scouting Self did there

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 08:14:48 PM
Self just skullfucked Tang to start the half.

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kim carnes on January 31, 2023, 08:15:10 PM
We had two flukey wins on the road early in conference play and have looked like ass ever since
Except, no one is winning on the road in this league at a good clip.   I'm not sure how you expected this game to go any different.   I would guess we claw back to 5 and then they win by 15.   

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If we want this team to get better then we had better start ridiculing them
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 31, 2023, 08:16:35 PM
Nowell has five first-have turnovers. His TOs have been creeping up since Tang said he was giving him freedom. Nowell needs to discipline himself more.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 08:34:40 PM
Not real sure how a guy moving sideways and throwing his shoulder out gets a charge call.

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 31, 2023, 08:35:25 PM
it's clear the refs and espn want an upset
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Kat Kid on January 31, 2023, 08:37:36 PM
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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 08:44:47 PM
Woof

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 08:51:37 PM
The squawks needed this one bad
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 08:53:56 PM
hopefully the voters rank us appropriately next week, which would be somewhere around 28
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 31, 2023, 08:54:56 PM
Just not able to finish under the rim tonight
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
This is unwatchable. We’ve missed at least a billion dunks and layups. Just awful
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 31, 2023, 09:07:13 PM
Even announcers are mocking TF out of our layups
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on January 31, 2023, 09:09:54 PM
it took a historically bad shooting night, the refs, and not getting any bounces to beat this haphazardly built, poorly coached kansas state team. i brought this up a few days ago and i think the answer is: yes. kansas is losing it :frown:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 31, 2023, 09:12:38 PM
KU: we aren’t rivals!
Also KU: “Little Brother” chant
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: pissclams on January 31, 2023, 09:13:05 PM
our defense is completely broken
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on January 31, 2023, 09:16:08 PM
Good experience for Cam, Nguessan, and Tomlin for next year.   Moment seemed too big for them tonight.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: kstater on January 31, 2023, 09:19:14 PM
Didn't quite get it back to 5, 9 was as close as got.   But couldn't hit the easy ones.

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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 31, 2023, 09:21:17 PM
FIrst-half sloppiness and misses at the rim (while being fouled) cost us a chance to win. Cleanup the ball handling and lets win the league. Also, Dick can't stay on the floor against Tomlin.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: mocat on January 31, 2023, 09:27:23 PM
This could be made up, I and literally everybody else itt have no idea

https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1620621419582492673?s=20&t=BBfjfvkYlVhvXVvhU1b_tA
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on January 31, 2023, 09:34:07 PM
I’m not sure I watched more than 5 regular season games the last 5 years so yes I think you’re right.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: ben ji on January 31, 2023, 09:39:48 PM
We had two flukey wins on the road early in conference play and have looked like ass ever since
Except, no one is winning on the road in this league at a good clip.   I'm not sure how you expected this game to go any different.   I would guess we claw back to 5 and then they win by 15.   

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Same as it ever was.

KU gets up double digits in the first half, we claw back to cut it to 6 early in the second half then they put us away.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 31, 2023, 09:45:15 PM
We've played at Texas, Baylor, KU, ISU and TCU, so the top contenders on the road. KU, for example, has played and lost at Baylor and Manhattan.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on January 31, 2023, 11:37:31 PM
We got pantsed tonight pretty much.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 AM
didn't even seem like our players even cared. i hope tang addresses this
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2023, 07:07:06 AM
K State fans are so insecure. I saw people on twitter butthurt that Kelce casually watched the game and enjoyed himself in Lawerence.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 01, 2023, 07:58:43 AM
The defense is just comically bad at times, some of the worst floor recognition on the defensive end I’ve seen at the P5 level.  Even Tang’s sister was saying they look completely lost out there. 

KJ at times thinks he’s already in the NBA. 

Our “bigs” were no shows, Sills is at rock bottom and Carter did nothing.

Bad night.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: catastrophe on February 01, 2023, 08:06:56 AM
K State fans are so insecure. I saw people on twitter butthurt that Kelce casually watched the game and enjoyed himself in Lawerence.
I am quite glad I’m hardly ever exposed to this part of the fan base.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 01, 2023, 08:16:58 AM
K State fans are so insecure. I saw people on twitter butthurt that Kelce casually watched the game and enjoyed himself in Lawerence.
I am quite glad I’m hardly ever exposed to this part of the fan base.
Did Kelce have bodyguards with him at the game? It looked like two very large men were accompanying Kelce as he left his seat at the end of the game. Doesn't seem like a man that large would need body guards but I'm sure he has reasons.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 01, 2023, 08:27:30 AM
We got our ass whooped, but most of the margin of victory was self-inflicted.  Missing easy dunks and layups won't help. Neither will sloppy ass turnovers.

Tomlin is so incredibly frustrating to watch. He seriously looks like he's Kevin Durant on one play and the next you can tell this is literally his 4th year of organized basketball.

Saturday's game should be more indicative of this team's nature. I fully expect to win by 8+.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2023, 08:41:34 AM
didn't even seem like our players even cared. i hope tang addresses this

I don't agree with this. They fought really hard all the way.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 01, 2023, 08:44:17 AM
K State fans are so insecure. I saw people on twitter butthurt that Kelce casually watched the game and enjoyed himself in Lawerence.
I am quite glad I’m hardly ever exposed to this part of the fan base.
Did Kelce have bodyguards with him at the game? It looked like two very large men were accompanying Kelce as he left his seat at the end of the game. Doesn't seem like a man that large would need body guards but I'm sure he has reasons.

Probably needed to protect himself from some freak injury in the case that KU fans storm the court.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Tomlin needs to get more aggressive specifically at the rim.  He makes really good moves, handles the ball great, and then even though he can jump out the stupid gym, he goes up soft and light for finger rolls or little pup shots at the rim.  I would love to see him do exactly what he does now to get to the rim, but then get more explosive at the rim.  Play to go through the defender. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on February 01, 2023, 09:03:35 AM
Tomlin needs to get more aggressive specifically at the rim.  He makes really good moves, handles the ball great, and then even though he can jump out the stupid gym, he goes up soft and light for finger rolls or little pup shots at the rim.  I would love to see him do exactly what he does now to get to the rim, but then get more explosive at the rim.  Play to go through the defender.

Just try to dunk everything
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cire on February 01, 2023, 09:06:37 AM
There’s a correlation between getting whistled for touching and defense becoming soft.

There was a point early when ku opened the lead and bilas said, “kstate needs to tighten up”.


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Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 01, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
I went to the game last night.  Admittedly, first time in Allen Fieldhouse. 

Game Thoughts:
 - I don't know if I've ever seen so many missed dunks and layups in one game.
 - Defense did not play well.
 - KU had players step up that haven't rest of season.  They really wanted this one.
 - Officiating was not consistent.  Too many fouls.

Overall Allen Fieldhouse Experience:
 - Fans were great.  You could tell this game meant a lot to them.  Lots of booing and even started "little brother" chant.  Pretty amazing.
 - The place is a dump.  At some point you have to give history the middle finger and build a better venue.
 - HVAC was all kinds of mumped up.  It was in the mid-80's with no air movement.  Absolutely miserable.
 - Audio was not good.  I think their sound system is pretty new, but unfortunately difficult to hear and understand the PA announcer.
 - Intro video was overhyped.  A few of my KU coworkers have stated to me that the intro video sets the tone and is the best experience in the Arena.  Possibly the best intro video at any sporting venue.  Well friends, that is debunked because it was nothing special.  I was expecting lights to go out with other cool crap and none of that happened.  I actually think I missed the first part of it because it did not draw my attention away from people watching. 

Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2023, 09:14:59 AM
didn't even seem like our players even cared. i hope tang addresses this

I don't agree with this. They fought really hard all the way.

Damnit  :Take the Bait:
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: cfbandyman on February 01, 2023, 09:16:11 AM
I went to the game last night.  Admittedly, first time in Allen Fieldhouse. 

Game Thoughts:
 - I don't know if I've ever seen so many missed dunks and layups in one game.
 - Defense did not play well.
 - KU had players step up that haven't rest of season.  They really wanted this one.
 - Officiating was not consistent.  Too many fouls.

Overall Allen Fieldhouse Experience:
 - Fans were great.  You could tell this game meant a lot to them.  Lots of booing and even started "little brother" chant.  Pretty amazing.
 - The place is a dump.  At some point you have to give history the middle finger and build a better venue.
 - HVAC was all kinds of mumped up.  It was in the mid-80's with no air movement.  Absolutely miserable.
 - Audio was not good.  I think their sound system is pretty new, but unfortunately difficult to hear and understand the PA announcer.
 - Intro video was overhyped.  A few of my KU coworkers have stated to me that the intro video sets the tone and is the best experience in the Arena.  Possibly the best intro video at any sporting venue.  Well friends, that is debunked because it was nothing special.  I was expecting lights to go out with other cool crap and none of that happened.  I actually think I missed the first part of it because it did not draw my attention away from people watching.

Enjoyed this synopsis. I know there has been a lot of gE/general katz hate of AFH but the more I see/read about it it comes increasingly clear it's objectively needs significant overhaul and is part it's prime.

Like I went to Cameron indoor a few years back, and it's a tiny, but super nice high school gym. It's crazy how much these storied places are like, actually fairly meh.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2023, 09:20:10 AM
The defense is just comically bad at times, some of the worst floor recognition on the defensive end I’ve seen at the P5 level.  Even Tang’s sister was saying they look completely lost out there. 

KJ at times thinks he’s already in the NBA. 

Our “bigs” were no shows, Sills is at rock bottom and Carter did nothing.

Bad night.

For the most part I agree with this analysis although it's a bit overly dramatic.

What the hell does  "KJ at times thinks he’s already in the NBA." mean though?

One other thing I'll add is that I thought 'Quis tried entirely too hard in the first half to make huge plays to bring the team back and he had his worst, by far, game of the year taking care of the ball. Although his numbers were significantly worse the first game, I thought he did a better job in letting the game come to him.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2023, 09:30:14 AM
I went to the game last night.  Admittedly, first time in Allen Fieldhouse. 

Game Thoughts:
 - I don't know if I've ever seen so many missed dunks and layups in one game.
 - Defense did not play well.
 - KU had players step up that haven't rest of season.  They really wanted this one.
 - Officiating was not consistent.  Too many fouls.

Overall Allen Fieldhouse Experience:
 - Fans were great.  You could tell this game meant a lot to them.  Lots of booing and even started "little brother" chant.  Pretty amazing.
 - The place is a dump.  At some point you have to give history the middle finger and build a better venue.
 - HVAC was all kinds of mumped up.  It was in the mid-80's with no air movement.  Absolutely miserable.
 - Audio was not good.  I think their sound system is pretty new, but unfortunately difficult to hear and understand the PA announcer.
 - Intro video was overhyped.  A few of my KU coworkers have stated to me that the intro video sets the tone and is the best experience in the Arena.  Possibly the best intro video at any sporting venue.  Well friends, that is debunked because it was nothing special.  I was expecting lights to go out with other cool crap and none of that happened.  I actually think I missed the first part of it because it did not draw my attention away from people watching.

Enjoyed this synopsis. I know there has been a lot of gE/general katz hate of AFH but the more I see/read about it it comes increasingly clear it's objectively needs significant overhaul and is part it's prime.

Like I went to Cameron indoor a few years back, and it's a tiny, but super nice high school gym. It's crazy how much these storied places are like, actually fairly meh.

Right now KU has a RFQ out for bid looking for GC's for a $34M upgrade to Allen FH
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: stunted on February 01, 2023, 10:00:58 AM
didn't even seem like our players even cared. i hope tang addresses this

I don't agree with this. They fought really hard all the way.

Damnit  :Take the Bait:

I’m not stunzing. Maybe they tried a little but like kilt said, they just really wanted this one a lot more
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 01, 2023, 10:03:46 AM
Our scoreboard makes their scoreboard look like a community college.  That honestly surprised me as well.  Hopefully that is part of their $34m RFQ. 
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 01, 2023, 10:12:58 AM
K State fans are so insecure. I saw people on twitter butthurt that Kelce casually watched the game and enjoyed himself in Lawerence.
I am quite glad I’m hardly ever exposed to this part of the fan base.
Did Kelce have bodyguards with him at the game? It looked like two very large men were accompanying Kelce as he left his seat at the end of the game. Doesn't seem like a man that large would need body guards but I'm sure he has reasons.
He does have a Security crew with him wherever he goes now. Also has a personal driver.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on February 01, 2023, 11:03:19 AM
The best team we have had since the rebirth of KSU hoops(NCAA 2 seed, elite 8 participant) got thumped by 17 in the field house. This teams future should not be predicted using last night as a data point.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 01, 2023, 11:28:36 AM
The best team we have had since the rebirth of KSU hoops(NCAA 2 seed, elite 8 participant) got thumped by 17 in the field house. This teams future should not be predicted using last night as a data point.
This team looked somewhat less shell-shocked than what we normally see in AFH...
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: nicname on February 01, 2023, 11:46:20 AM
The best team we have had since the rebirth of KSU hoops(NCAA 2 seed, elite 8 participant) got thumped by 17 in the field house. This teams future should not be predicted using last night as a data point.
This team looked somewhat less shell-shocked than what we normally see in AFH...

Didn’t look shell-shocked at all. Just missed too many bunnies and didn’t force KU to rotate on defense. Bilas was harping on our lack of ball reversals all night, and he was right. Too many one pass or no pass possessions trying to score of first action.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Kid In the Hall on February 01, 2023, 12:57:17 PM
I thought it was interesting that Wilson basically said after the game that KU isn't beatable when they play as well as they did last night.

I mean, K-State was 6 missed dunks/bunnies (of about 15) away from being right there - and that's after a pretty meh first half.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on February 01, 2023, 01:53:37 PM
After looking at the box score I thought it was borderline criminal that Cam only played 19 minutes.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 01, 2023, 01:55:20 PM
I went to the game last night.  Admittedly, first time in Allen Fieldhouse. 

Game Thoughts:
 - I don't know if I've ever seen so many missed dunks and layups in one game.
 - Defense did not play well.
 - KU had players step up that haven't rest of season.  They really wanted this one.
 - Officiating was not consistent.  Too many fouls.

Overall Allen Fieldhouse Experience:
 - Fans were great.  You could tell this game meant a lot to them.  Lots of booing and even started "little brother" chant.  Pretty amazing.
 - The place is a dump.  At some point you have to give history the middle finger and build a better venue.
 - HVAC was all kinds of mumped up.  It was in the mid-80's with no air movement.  Absolutely miserable.
 - Audio was not good.  I think their sound system is pretty new, but unfortunately difficult to hear and understand the PA announcer.
 - Intro video was overhyped.  A few of my KU coworkers have stated to me that the intro video sets the tone and is the best experience in the Arena.  Possibly the best intro video at any sporting venue.  Well friends, that is debunked because it was nothing special.  I was expecting lights to go out with other cool crap and none of that happened.  I actually think I missed the first part of it because it did not draw my attention away from people watching.

Enjoyed this synopsis. I know there has been a lot of gE/general katz hate of AFH but the more I see/read about it it comes increasingly clear it's objectively needs significant overhaul and is part it's prime.

Like I went to Cameron indoor a few years back, and it's a tiny, but super nice high school gym. It's crazy how much these storied places are like, actually fairly meh.

Last time I went there was oscar's first year. It's cool and historic, but the idea that it's some deafening building is pretty lol.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 01, 2023, 01:59:37 PM
The best team we have had since the rebirth of KSU hoops(NCAA 2 seed, elite 8 participant) got thumped by 17 in the field house. This teams future should not be predicted using last night as a data point.
This team looked somewhat less shell-shocked than what we normally see in AFH...

Didn’t look shell-shocked at all. Just missed too many bunnies and didn’t force KU to rotate on defense. Bilas was harping on our lack of ball reversals all night, and he was right. Too many one pass or no pass possessions trying to score of first action.
I guess I considered missing a large number of bunnies as a symptom of being shellshocked. We ran some putrid half court offense. And when we did get something good to happen on offense to cut into the lead, KU would drill a three to extend the lead again.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2023, 02:02:22 PM
The best team we have had since the rebirth of KSU hoops(NCAA 2 seed, elite 8 participant) got thumped by 17 in the field house. This teams future should not be predicted using last night as a data point.
This team looked somewhat less shell-shocked than what we normally see in AFH...

Didn’t look shell-shocked at all. Just missed too many bunnies and didn’t force KU to rotate on defense. Bilas was harping on our lack of ball reversals all night, and he was right. Too many one pass or no pass possessions trying to score of first action.

Yeah, things like want to, being rattled, etc. are always overstated because it's easier to say things like that instead of actual on court reasons for success and failure.

When Bilas was talking about reversing the court, he was right for that segment of the game, not the whole game. That was the stretch where we were getting some stops but the offense was bad because we got sped up and tried to hit a big play instead of just running the offense.

Another thing I thought was key was the amount of points KU scored off of secondary breaks and scramble plays. It looked to me that when we played them in Bramlage two weeks ago, we only committed 3 rebounders and dropped 2, with the goal of slowing their break down. Last night we crashed with 4 and rebounded much better, but it allowed KU to play much faster. We did a good job with the primary break but the secondary break absolutely killed us.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2023, 02:04:32 PM
After looking at the box score I thought it was borderline criminal that Cam only played 19 minutes.

I though he looked good offensively, but if I were to guess I'd bet he was probably lost defensively.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 01, 2023, 02:20:42 PM
It seemed like whenever the referees would make an awful call, we would spend the next 2 or 3 possessions doing something stupid to completely negate any run that we would go on.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: wetwillie on February 01, 2023, 02:25:47 PM
After looking at the box score I thought it was borderline criminal that Cam only played 19 minutes.

I though he looked good offensively, but if I were to guess I'd bet he was probably lost defensively.

He’s easily our best on ball defender imo.  I figured tang thought Desi could handle the environment better under pressure.
Title: Re: Sunflower Showdown Part 3: For a trophy!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2023, 05:35:41 PM
It seemed like whenever the referees would make an awful call, we would spend the next 2 or 3 possessions doing something stupid to completely negate any run that we would go on.

Yes!