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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2013, 02:38:00 PM »
I actually really wanted this kid so eff you and eff Weiss too.
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2013, 02:42:55 PM »
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2013, 02:51:09 PM »
People say KU was more competitive last season, and that might be true I guess, but I don't really think it's significant at all.  The bottom line is, they only won one game. That's the fewest wins they've had since '88, when they only played 11 games.  They say the games were closer last season, and the point differentials show that they're marginally right:

In 2012, the conference point differential for KU was 145-341 (196) (-22/gm).
In '10, it was 157-393 (236) (-26/gm).
In '11, it was 116-335 (219) (-27/gm).

So to some degree, KU fans are right.  On average, KU was 4 points more competitive per game than they were in 2010.  But they were still really, really bad last season.  -22/gm in conference is super bad.  Just awful.  It's easy to point to games like Tech and Texas and (to a far lesser extent, Oklahoma State) and say "hey! kansas almost won!"

But Gill had games like that too.  Who could forget those Iowa State and Baylor (moreso Baylor) heartbreakers in '11?  Also, Gill even managed to win a conference game once in 2010. 
 
So, to sum it up, yes, on average, KU kept it marginally closer in 2012 than they did in either of the prior two years.  They were still astoundingly bad and won zero conference games.  They were far from actually competitive.  And the couple times they were within arms reach, they blew it, just like they did in those situations under Gill (except the one time when Gill didn't blow it).

Is Weiss a better coach than Gill?  Maybe.  But if he is, he sure didn't prove it last season.
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2013, 02:53:53 PM »
Is Chuck going to try run his pro style O again next year? 

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2013, 03:35:27 PM »
I think Weis's biggest problem was that he thought the team could just start out in a sprint.  As the season went on, he learned to run the ball, or at least Cryst forced him to.  Limit posessions to magnify any mistakes the other team may make.  Also, running the ball keeps your terrible terrible defense off the field in a conference where there are good offenses.

If Weis is patient enough to rebuild it and not try to rush it, he maybe able to get them somewhere.  I think he wants to run nfl offenses and hope to suddenly breakthrough to 8 wins.  In that case, he better hope Mormon QB is a badass and opposing offenses shoot themselves in the foot.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2013, 03:49:00 PM »
Weis' season at ku last year was worse then either of Gill's seasons.  Really no valid argument too make otherwise.  His recruiting classes have also been worse then Gill's. 

My prediction is this kid won't ever sign with ku.  By the time signing day rolls around there will be no remaining doubt about Weis' level of clowndom.. 

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2013, 06:15:16 PM »
This totally erases my conference championship high.
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2013, 06:41:06 PM »
These threads from Ben are like the kiss of death to the majority of the players. If I was this Wrench kid, I'd tell Beems to keep my name out of his mouth.

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Re: Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2013, 06:59:47 PM »
These threads from Ben are like the kiss of death to the majority of the players. If I was this Wrench kid, I'd tell Beems to keep my name out of his mouth.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2013, 07:26:10 PM »
not k-state material.
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2013, 07:26:55 PM »
People say KU was more competitive last season, and that might be true I guess, but I don't really think it's significant at all.  The bottom line is, they only won one game. That's the fewest wins they've had since '88, when they only played 11 games.  They say the games were closer last season, and the point differentials show that they're marginally right:

In 2012, the conference point differential for KU was 145-341 (196) (-22/gm).
In '10, it was 157-393 (236) (-26/gm).
In '11, it was 116-335 (219) (-27/gm).

So to some degree, KU fans are right.  On average, KU was 4 points more competitive per game than they were in 2010.  But they were still really, really bad last season.  -22/gm in conference is super bad.  Just awful.  It's easy to point to games like Tech and Texas and (to a far lesser extent, Oklahoma State) and say "hey! kansas almost won!"

But Gill had games like that too.  Who could forget those Iowa State and Baylor (moreso Baylor) heartbreakers in '11?  Also, Gill even managed to win a conference game once in 2010. 
 
So, to sum it up, yes, on average, KU kept it marginally closer in 2012 than they did in either of the prior two years.  They were still astoundingly bad and won zero conference games.  They were far from actually competitive.  And the couple times they were within arms reach, they blew it, just like they did in those situations under Gill (except the one time when Gill didn't blow it).

Is Weiss a better coach than Gill?  Maybe.  But if he is, he sure didn't prove it last season.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2013, 07:38:12 PM »
Weiss could coach them to twice the improvement over last year and still have a conf differential of -14pts/game.   :embarrassed:

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2013, 07:48:55 PM »
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Traevohn-Wrench-136297


Best running back in the state since Sproles.  Weis is dominating Old Balls on the recruiting trail.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2013, 07:52:09 PM »
No doubt in my mind this Freshman will come in and make an immediate impact. I think you'll see KU's PPG diff. go to -18 or something respectable.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2013, 07:52:40 PM »
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2013, 09:40:13 PM »
This could throw a "wrench" in our conference 'ship plans for next season.   :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2013, 10:29:39 PM »
welp, it was fun while it lasted boys.  :frown:
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2013, 11:07:08 PM »
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2013, 02:52:35 AM »
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2013, 09:18:21 AM »
meh, kid sounds like a tool anyway.
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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2013, 10:52:31 AM »
Looks like KU is obsessed with us, so far in their heads.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2013, 11:19:08 AM »
The kid is a total pud. Snyder mushed him away. Fact. :bill:

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2013, 11:22:32 AM »
meh, kid sounds like a tool anyway.


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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2013, 11:36:43 AM »
meh, kid sounds like a tool anyway.

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Re: Traevohn Wrench to KU
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2013, 12:08:19 PM »
meh, kid sounds like a tool anyway.
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