If Frank was here this year...

[ChiComCat]

How would we score the ball without the motion offense we run? How would we get open looks, get to the lane. Frank sure as hell never worked on the skill and form of shooting and scoring a basketball with any of the guys. No developmental with offensive skills.

Would Shane Southwell and the entire team be shooting in the 40's from 3pt? How would we score? This was always the problem with Frank's teams. Fortunately Frank had a couple guys that will have banners in the rafters who could create and score to bail out his horseshit offense. There are none of those guys on this team, yet this is the best K-State team we have had since the reincarnation of KSU bball.

Defensively under Frank we fouled and played hard, but stupid. Simply put, fouls negate hustle and the ability to stop your opponent. We never forced teams to make their lesser players score the ball. We do now (with the exception of McLemore's game). No we score and are able to conistently stop teams under Frank this year.

I firmly believe we get swept by KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and split with Baylor, WVU and probably Tejas. 500 at best.

You're an idiot.  We would score/win like we did last year but with more experience (also no numbers going in the rafters from that team).  Also, against a conference with more dogshit teams.

Explain to me how the Big XII is dogshit if KU, ISU, OU, OSU are better versions than the previous season? What was our record vs. those teams last year? 1-7? This year, 4-3 about to be 5-3. Hate on Weber all you want, but Frank was a rough ridin' hack. Gonzaga would have beat us by 40 with Hack Martin coaching.

The conference gives you 8 victories if you don't eff it up (TCU, WV, UT, and Tech).  KU is not a better version.  OU and ISU are maybe slightly better, but mostly are taking advantage of the crap 4.  Baylor is worse.  OSU is better.

I'm not hating on Weber.   If you want to say Weber is better than Frank, ok.  That can be a fair argument.  I am saying that telling everyone Frank would be .500 is flat out stupid when the talent is more experienced on this team and he was over .500 last year.

[westcoast_emawer]

KU is debatable, but McLemore is going to be taken earlier in the draft than Robinson was. Withey can actually score out of the post this year and their other seniors are playing at a much higher level and are more efficient than last year. (Young, Johnson, Releford)

Frank wouldn't have developed these guys offensive abilities. Never was able to. Who was a prolific scorer/ offensive threat not named Walker, Beasley or Pullen or a transfer? No way we are able to score. I mean really, I want to know how we would score vs Big XII teams? We would be a richman's WVU or similar to Texas. Probably lose at WVU and the games vs Baylor would be toss ups. Angel would be a mess and out of control, Southwell would still be shooting as flat as an ironing board, and guys like Nino, Omari, Irving, Gip wouldn't even be contributors. It would be a nightmare.

Instead Weber gets no love because we returned a bunch of guys. What people need to know is we returned a bunch of guys that couldn't beat any of us in a game of HORSE. It is pretty impressive what these coaches and players have developed in less than a year.

[SdK]

I loved the crap out of Frank. But now that he's gone, I can accurately reflect on him. I really don't miss him. I am nowhere near thinking that BWeb can attain success long term, but I don't miss Frank one bit. At least I am now a fan of a stable team, for whatever reason, that is nice. I don't have to be on pins and needles everygame about who is going to show up.

[8manpick]

KU is debatable, but McLemore is going to be taken earlier in the draft than Robinson was. Withey can actually score out of the post this year and their other seniors are playing at a much higher level and are more efficient than last year. (Young, Johnson, Releford)

Frank wouldn't have developed these guys offensive abilities. Never was able to. Who was a prolific scorer/ offensive threat not named Walker, Beasley or Pullen or a transfer? No way we are able to score. I mean really, I want to know how we would score vs Big XII teams? We would be a richman's WVU or similar to Texas. Probably lose at WVU and the games vs Baylor would be toss ups. Angel would be a mess and out of control, Southwell would still be shooting as flat as an ironing board, and guys like Nino, Omari, Irving, Gip wouldn't even be contributors. It would be a nightmare.

Instead Weber gets no love because we returned a bunch of guys. What people need to know is we returned a bunch of guys that couldn't beat any of us in a game of HORSE. It is pretty impressive what these coaches and players have developed in less than a year.

KU played for the national championship last year dipshit. They aren't better this year. Mizzou was a great team when they weren't playing against Frank. Baylor was really good. To say this year's Big 12 is better is unfathomably stupid.  I am really going you are a competent poster who is trolling, rather than a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), because we've had too many new retards around lately.

[sys]

I am really going you are a competent poster who is trolling, rather than a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), because we've had too many new retards around lately.

he's obviously trolling, c'mon 8man.

[8manpick]

Sorry sys, I'm drunk, not as obvious as it should be

[8manpick]

Also, this place has been Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) central lately, so who really knows anymore?

[ksupamplemousse]

KU is debatable, but McLemore is going to be taken earlier in the draft than Robinson was. Withey can actually score out of the post this year and their other seniors are playing at a much higher level and are more efficient than last year. (Young, Johnson, Releford)

Frank wouldn't have developed these guys offensive abilities. Never was able to. Who was a prolific scorer/ offensive threat not named Walker, Beasley or Pullen or a transfer? No way we are able to score. I mean really, I want to know how we would score vs Big XII teams? We would be a richman's WVU or similar to Texas. Probably lose at WVU and the games vs Baylor would be toss ups. Angel would be a mess and out of control, Southwell would still be shooting as flat as an ironing board, and guys like Nino, Omari, Irving, Gip wouldn't even be contributors. It would be a nightmare.

Instead Weber gets no love because we returned a bunch of guys. What people need to know is we returned a bunch of guys that couldn't beat any of us in a game of HORSE. It is pretty impressive what these coaches and players have developed in less than a year.

Weber, the magical shooting magician! I'm sure when he retires, he'll just become a shooting consultant for like every basketball team that wants to shoot better. It couldn't possibly be that Frank recruited good shooters that played in a system where Frank emphasized getting oboards and getting to the stripe, that would be way to rough ridin' simple, oscar must be a jump shot hero or something 

[420seriouscat69]

 

[CNS]

Guys,  do you think if frank came back today and took over for the rest of the season that we would be able to salvage this season and totally win the NC?

Yeah, I do too.

[kso_FAN]

Guys,  do you think if frank came back today and took over for the rest of the season that we would be able to salvage this season and totally win the NC?

Yeah, I do too.

If Frank came back today, we wouldn't lose another game.

Ever.

[Mr Bread]

How would we score the ball without the motion offense we run? How would we get open looks, get to the lane. Frank sure as hell never worked on the skill and form of shooting and scoring a basketball with any of the guys. No developmental with offensive skills.

Would Shane Southwell and the entire team be shooting in the 40's from 3pt? How would we score? This was always the problem with Frank's teams. Fortunately Frank had a couple guys that will have banners in the rafters who could create and score to bail out his horseshit offense. There are none of those guys on this team, yet this is the best K-State team we have had since the reincarnation of KSU bball.

Defensively under Frank we fouled and played hard, but stupid. Simply put, fouls negate hustle and the ability to stop your opponent. We never forced teams to make their lesser players score the ball. We do now (with the exception of McLemore's game). No we score and are able to conistently stop teams under Frank this year.

I firmly believe we get swept by KU, ISU, OU, OSU, and split with Baylor, WVU and probably Tejas. 500 at best.

This is the same kind of logic that Illinois fans used when Weber took over for Self.

My main man beems is 100% correct here.  Illinois tucks wouldn't shut up about it.  Then when Self won an NC and the wheels simultaneously started to come off for oscar they changed it to Self is a cheater and oscar is a really nice man who does it the right way (but loses).  God I hate them.   

[CNS]

I bet,  if frank took over the fighting breads today,  you guys would salvage this season and win the NC.

[420seriouscat69]

If Frank came back today, he'd eff up a receipt from Western Union to super stud Shane Southwell. Stupid loser who doesn't know how to hide crap from his boss.

[420seriouscat69]

Frank would also eff up a wet dream btw. Hur hur hur

[GoodForAnother]

guys frank doesn't coach for us anymore

[420seriouscat69]

guys frank doesn't coach for us anymore

Thank god!

[EMAWzified]

If Frank were here, we would have already have wrapped up the Big 12, gunning for a No. 1 seed and the national guys would be queued up to Topeka to swing from our nuts.

Now we have a nice team no one really takes seriously, least of all our fans.

[CNS]

Also, Frank would totally be phoning it in, since the conf would already be in hand, and would be appearing live on Jim Rome, Gottlieb, Sports Center, and every other national outlet where college bb was being discussed, talking about kids not changing and how he knows we only have 3 open scholarships but 5 signed recruits and how he used to teach math.

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[ChiComCat]

I am really going you are a competent poster who is trolling, rather than a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), because we've had too many new retards around lately.

he's obviously trolling, c'mon 8man.

I thought he might be too but I have no idea who this poster is so didn't have anything to compare it to.

[sys]

I thought he might be too but I have no idea who this poster is so didn't have anything to compare it to.

he's chingon, fyi.

[westcoast_emawer]

KU's road to the title game... 15 Detriot, 10 Purdue, 11 NC State, UNC (w/o 1-Gaurd Marshall). Ohio State was their only good win, they skated through the rest and found a way to win. Yeah, your right that team was so much better than this years version.

Still waiting to hear on how we would be able to score points vs. teams this year with Frank coaching? Get to the foul line and shoot in the 60's? Great concept, how about over deny and apply ball pressure with guys that can't play that type of defense so they foul every other time down the court.

You can like Frank all you want, but the guy was a hack. If he was a true teacher he would teach guys how to shoot, how to defend smarter without fouling, how to run a rough ridin' offense with some continuity and ability to get open shots.

No what did he do... Lets get up and play as physical as possible to try to get TO's ... "they can't call all the fouls" Fail
Hey on offense lets dribble around and bury our heads and hope to either kick out to guys that are covered and can't shoot and maybe we can get an offensive rebound or truck dudes and maybe the refs will bail us out to shoot free throws that we can't make. Fail

Hey fuktards tell me how we would score with Frank and this team instead of circle jerking about if I'm trolling your ass. 

[ChiComCat]

KU's road to the title game... 15 Detriot, 10 Purdue, 11 NC State, UNC (w/o 1-Gaurd Marshall). Ohio State was their only good win, they skated through the rest and found a way to win. Yeah, your right that team was so much better than this years version.

Still waiting to hear on how we would be able to score points vs. teams this year with Frank coaching? Get to the foul line and shoot in the 60's? Great concept, how about over deny and apply ball pressure with guys that can't play that type of defense so they foul every other time down the court.

You can like Frank all you want, but the guy was a hack. If he was a true teacher he would teach guys how to shoot, how to defend smarter without fouling, how to run a rough ridin' offense with some continuity and ability to get open shots.

No what did he do... Lets get up and play as physical as possible to try to get TO's ... "they can't call all the fouls" Fail
Hey on offense lets dribble around and bury our heads and hope to either kick out to guys that are covered and can't shoot and maybe we can get an offensive rebound or truck dudes and maybe the refs will bail us out to shoot free throws that we can't make. Fail

Hey fuktards tell me how we would score with Frank and this team instead of circle jerking about if I'm trolling your ass. 

Just like last year's team

[CNS]

Or the yr before

[CNS]

Or the yr before that