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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2013, 08:32:12 PM »
Depending on how many bones you got (how many thighs/quarters are we talking about here?) you might looking into supplementing the thigh bones/skin with chicken wings.  They have alot of bone and connective tissue in them, you can just toss them is as is and make a good broth/stock.  That GE recipe says 4lbs of bones/gristle/skin, i think as long as you're pretty close to that you'll be ok.

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« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2013, 10:44:29 AM »
Depending on how many bones you got (how many thighs/quarters are we talking about here?) you might looking into supplementing the thigh bones/skin with chicken wings.  They have alot of bone and connective tissue in them, you can just toss them is as is and make a good broth/stock.  That GE recipe says 4lbs of bones/gristle/skin, i think as long as you're pretty close to that you'll be ok.

i'd for sure roast em, though. it will give you a much better flavor, imo.

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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2013, 10:22:39 PM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison.  I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff.  :frown:
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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2013, 11:44:36 PM »
Depending on how many bones you got (how many thighs/quarters are we talking about here?) you might looking into supplementing the thigh bones/skin with chicken wings.  They have alot of bone and connective tissue in them, you can just toss them is as is and make a good broth/stock.  That GE recipe says 4lbs of bones/gristle/skin, i think as long as you're pretty close to that you'll be ok.

i'd for sure roast em, though. it will give you a much better flavor, imo.

Couple minutes under the broiler would do it,  try putting them in a normal hot oven to crisp and you'll set off every smoke detector in your house.

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« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2013, 11:00:39 AM »
thanks for all your pro tips and kind words of encouragement.

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« Reply #130 on: November 22, 2013, 11:39:51 AM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison. I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff. :frown:

me too. someday, rams. someday.

that site is pretty awesome. in other news i bought my first large chunk of a cow the other day through a csa. real exited.

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« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2014, 02:10:47 PM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison. I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff. :frown:

me too. someday, rams. someday.

that site is pretty awesome. in other news i bought my first large chunk of a cow the other day through a csa. real exited.

What did you do with the chunk of cow?

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« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2014, 02:17:41 PM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison. I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff. :frown:

me too. someday, rams. someday.

that site is pretty awesome. in other news i bought my first large chunk of a cow the other day through a csa. real exited.

What did you do with the chunk of cow?

it was already butchered, so normal stuff. hamburgers, tacos, chili, steaks, beef jerky, roasts, and what have you. speaking of butchers, there is a new shop opening up in Wichita.

https://www.facebook.com/chopshopwichita

looks awesome.

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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2014, 02:27:43 PM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison. I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff. :frown:

me too. someday, rams. someday.

that site is pretty awesome. in other news i bought my first large chunk of a cow the other day through a csa. real exited.

What did you do with the chunk of cow?

it was already butchered, so normal stuff. hamburgers, tacos, chili, steaks, beef jerky, roasts, and what have you. speaking of butchers, there is a new shop opening up in Wichita.

https://www.facebook.com/chopshopwichita

looks awesome.
Opening March 29, 2014, wtf am I supposed to do until then?

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« Reply #134 on: March 04, 2014, 03:28:19 PM »
this is only sort of offal related, but I think fits well with the original theme of the thread.  this guy http://honest-food.net is my new hero.  he basically doesn't buy any meat.  he doesn't kill anything he won't eat and the only meat he eats is what he kills (including offal)...and his recipes look rough ridin' amazeballs. :love:

I actually made the venison lasagna last night and it was incredible.  I'm thawing a roast right now to make corned venison. I wish I had a curing chamber to make the salami and other dry cured stuff. :frown:

me too. someday, rams. someday.

that site is pretty awesome. in other news i bought my first large chunk of a cow the other day through a csa. real exited.

What did you do with the chunk of cow?

it was already butchered, so normal stuff. hamburgers, tacos, chili, steaks, beef jerky, roasts, and what have you. speaking of butchers, there is a new shop opening up in Wichita.

https://www.facebook.com/chopshopwichita

looks awesome.
Opening March 29, 2014, wtf am I supposed to do until then?

not sure but i think there is gonna be a soft opening or something going on this month. don't really know for sure. i know the guy running the butcher shop portion from highschool. he's been at it for a while now, and really knows his stuff. plus he's a Cat fan!

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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #135 on: March 04, 2014, 08:02:49 PM »
GE is just amazing.  So many topics.  Worked in commercial meat processing for a decade with Con Agra (Armour, Swift, and Eckrich brands).  Made everything from bologna, hot dogs, salami.  Favs tho were head cheese (snouts, cheek meat), braunschweiger (jowls, liver smoked in natural casing), and mortadella (spiced bologna with blanched, cubed back fat).  Pretty much used the entire pig.

http://www.shopwell.com/eckrich-deli-loaves-head-cheese/sandwich-meat/p/4660003101?f=sr&nr=1814&sp=180

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« Reply #136 on: March 04, 2014, 09:24:37 PM »
GE is just amazing.  So many topics.  Worked in commercial meat processing for a decade with Con Agra (Armour, Swift, and Eckrich brands).  Made everything from bologna, hot dogs, salami.  Favs tho were head cheese (snouts, cheek meat), braunschweiger (jowls, liver smoked in natural casing), and mortadella (spiced bologna with blanched, cubed back fat).  Pretty much used the entire pig.

http://www.shopwell.com/eckrich-deli-loaves-head-cheese/sandwich-meat/p/4660003101?f=sr&nr=1814&sp=180

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i don't know how i feel about commercially made head cheese, but this post is awesome.

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« Reply #137 on: March 04, 2014, 11:02:34 PM »
Just read this whole thread and although most of the stuff looked rough ridin' gross I would try, also, I was literally crying laughing from SD posts.

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« Reply #138 on: March 04, 2014, 11:31:18 PM »
Just read this whole thread and although most of the stuff looked rough ridin' gross I would try, also, I was literally crying laughing from SD posts.

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« Reply #139 on: March 05, 2014, 11:27:52 AM »
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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #140 on: March 05, 2014, 04:00:47 PM »
I enjoy making my own sausage and eating pretty much all parts of the pig, but I haven't experimented with offal in the home. 'grats to asava for being bold and daring in the kitchen. Also 'grats to Steve Dave for making me LOL at work.


There was an article in the NYTimes on the restaurant Cochon in New Orleans a few years ago that first exposed me to offal. I can't find the link, but they also serve a bunch of traditional cajun stuff like rabbit sweetbreads. Has anyone been there?


I've eaten head cheese on several occasions, but just can't get into it. It doesn't really freak me out, but I don't really like the taste. (Sorry, Tom.) There's also a local butcher shop around me that sells 'Nduja, which I think is made of blood, jowl, tripe, and maybe some other stuff. I would probably eat it if it was offered to me, but when I first saw it's squishy dark purpleyness, it gave me the heebiejeebies.

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Re: Offal: Nose to Tail Cooking (NOW WITH PICTURES PER REQUEST OF SD)
« Reply #141 on: March 05, 2014, 10:36:57 PM »
Anyone ever ate chitterlings?  Brief stint on the kill floor had to inspect these things.  Never seen them for sale domesticly.

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« Reply #142 on: March 05, 2014, 11:28:25 PM »
Anyone ever ate chitterlings?  Brief stint on the kill floor had to inspect these things.  Never seen them for sale domesticly.

Tom

Not even going to google it. Would much rather have you explain what they are.  :excited:

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« Reply #143 on: March 06, 2014, 12:12:21 AM »


I went and witnessed this in person when I was a kid and have only eaten hot dogs when forced to (or ONLY option) since...

Is this the vid you put on Facebook? That plays automatically when you get a % of the vid screen in place? All of Facebook needs to stop this, if I wanna see the video, I'll click on it.

I happen to know hotdogs are poory made, but don't need an auto video showing me it.

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« Reply #145 on: March 06, 2014, 08:10:18 AM »
Anyone ever ate chitterlings?  Brief stint on the kill floor had to inspect these things.  Never seen them for sale domesticly.

Tom

I've never eaten them myself, but I see them for sale a bunch--even at a regular grocery store. They come in big plastic tubs that look like paint buckets, which kind of adds to the grossness. Supposedly they smell absolutely horrible when cooked.

Great Grandma WonderMeal supposedly loved them a bunch. Gross, GGWM.

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« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2014, 08:28:24 AM »


I went and witnessed this in person when I was a kid and have only eaten hot dogs when forced to (or ONLY option) since...

Is this the vid you put on Facebook? That plays automatically when you get a % of the vid screen in place? All of Facebook needs to stop this, if I wanna see the video, I'll click on it.

I happen to know hotdogs are poory made, but don't need an auto video showing me it.
None of those animals would be fit for human consumption... theres no bone, fur, brains, or intestine in hot dog meat... I can't believe they didn't gut those animals first.

Most likely you are looking at fertilizer being made, perhaps pet food.... and if it is pet food, nothing in that video would even constitute the grosses thing to go into pet food.

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« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2014, 10:45:10 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2014, 10:50:50 PM »
Always fought the "lips n assholes" perception of bologna and hot dogs. They must contain skeletal muscle/fat.  Organ meats (ie beef hearts in salami) must be declared.  You create an emulsion where the meat protein encapsulates the fat during cooking. Its basically a finely ground version of hamburger.

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« Reply #149 on: March 07, 2014, 06:16:59 AM »
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=how%20it's%20made%20hot%20dogs&sm=1

Looks pretty delicious to me


I went and witnessed this in person when I was a kid and have only eaten hot dogs when forced to (or ONLY option) since...

Is this the vid you put on Facebook? That plays automatically when you get a % of the vid screen in place? All of Facebook needs to stop this, if I wanna see the video, I'll click on it.

I happen to know hotdogs are poory made, but don't need an auto video showing me it.
None of those animals would be fit for human consumption... theres no bone, fur, brains, or intestine in hot dog meat... I can't believe they didn't gut those animals first.

Most likely you are looking at fertilizer being made, perhaps pet food.... and if it is pet food, nothing in that video would even constitute the grosses thing to go into pet food.

I know that no fur/bones/brains go into hot dogs, but the process is almost the exact same. If you don't believe me, go visit your local meat packing plant and take a tour. Everything that is not bacon/porkchops (i'm sure there are more items that get used) gets scraped into a bin and ground up and spit into hot dog tubes.