Author Topic: Game of Thrones book SPOILERS (FULL OF SPOILERS) (Read 7758 times)

michigancat · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2013, 05:10:41 PM »

Also, since this is full of spoilers, what was the deal with the rough ridin' dumbass Martell trying to steal the dragons? Seems like GRRM kind of half-assedly devoted some time to him as a way to get the dragons loose.

CNS · « **Reply #26 on:** February 11, 2013, 05:21:18 PM »

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Quote from: CNS Casey on February 11, 2013, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
I think my wife may have been imagining things. this says his eyes were grey:

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jon_Snow

Welp.

Back to the lady in red.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/8085-the-lyanna-rhaegar-jon-thread/page__st__0

It goes to rough ridin' part 41 now: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/80880-rlj-v41/

41 threads. See, this is why I can't do that. I will finish reading and realize that I haven't eaten in three days and my wife would have called me in as a missing person.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #27 on:** February 28, 2013, 10:15:01 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

Also, since this is full of spoilers, what was the deal with the rough ridin' dumbass Martell trying to steal the dragons? Seems like GRRM kind of half-assedly devoted some time to him as a way to get the dragons loose.

Somebody had to die in ADWD. If it's not going to be Jon Snow, it might as well be some character that wasn't introduced earlier than the 5th book.

Do you guys think Ramsay really has Mance and the spearwives, or do you think they got away?

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #28 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:51:36 AM »

Ramsay is a liar.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #29 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:53:40 AM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on February 28, 2013, 11:51:36 AM

Ramsay is a liar.

Yes, he obviously doesn't have Stannis. He might have Mance, though.

CNS · « **Reply #30 on:** February 28, 2013, 12:06:08 PM »

Ramsay is going to be the main antagonist during Jon Snow's rise.

He has mance. That would help him be the antagonist to Jon.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #31 on:** February 28, 2013, 01:22:24 PM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on February 28, 2013, 12:06:08 PM

Ramsay is going to be the main antagonist during Jon Snow's rise.

He has mance. That would help him be the antagonist to Jon.

Yeah, he has to have either Mance or at least one of the spearwives, or he wouldn't realize Mance was the bard. We know he doesn't have Stannis, though, or he wouldn't be asking Jon for Reek. If Melisandre brings Jon back to life and makes him her new champion, I don't think Stannis will like that much.

michigancat · « **Reply #32 on:** June 11, 2013, 10:48:22 AM »

Quote from: CNS on June 11, 2013, 10:39:07 AM

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Cersei is consistently bad. (so far)

Yes, would take a LHC Bill Snyder type turnaround for this to change

Yeah, but there are gaps. Do we discuss spoiler stuff in this thread?

WHERE ARE THE GAPS

CNS · « **Reply #33 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:09:57 AM »

Continuing from stupid TV thread where there are a bunch of retards that can't read:

Cersei has shown that she knows her son is a monster and has shown that she wants out of all the red keep stuff by trying to claim herself as heir to their homeland. he father refused her, her bro has shunned her, and she feels she is losing her son to his new wife. She is running out of friends and leverage. I think we will see a big opportunity for a major story change in her. The last book(or two, maybe, after reading they flow together a little in my head) it was mentioned a couple times that she knew what her son was but she seemed to take the stance that she couldn't do anything because he was her son. Basically she is in a corner and doesn't seem to have any options.

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #34 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:31:06 AM »

I felt bad for Cersei for about half a second when she had to walk naked through town; but then I remembered that she deserved it.

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #35 on:** June 11, 2013, 12:57:39 PM »

So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?

Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #36 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:06:49 PM »

Quote from: Metalhead on June 11, 2013, 12:57:39 PM

So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?

Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal

OK, yeah that would be awesome. I want Dany to end up with 2 men - Jon & her nephew or whatever that everyone thought was dead. (1 person for each dragon like that one Aegon? had 2 wives/sisters.) Yeah it's incesty but not as incesty as past Targaryens.

michigancat · « **Reply #37 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:09:17 PM »

Quote from: Metalhead on June 11, 2013, 12:57:39 PM

So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?

Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal

man, I never even thought about warging dragons. holy crap that will be the balls.

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #38 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:27:37 PM »

Based upon the fact that Bran can warg into Hodor, I would assume that it is entirely possible in the world of Westeros. Whether GRRM takes it there or not is the issue.

Super PurpleCat · « **Reply #39 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:53:48 PM »

LHarKSUCat · « **Reply #40 on:** October 18, 2013, 09:39:30 AM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on June 11, 2013, 01:06:49 PM

Quote from: Metalhead on June 11, 2013, 12:57:39 PM
So, if Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, will his warg powers come in to play with the dragons?

Can you image Jon with control over Rhaegal

OK, yeah that would be awesome. I want Dany to end up with 2 men - Jon & her nephew or whatever that everyone thought was dead. (1 person for each dragon like that one Aegon? had 2 wives/sisters.) Yeah it's incesty but not as incesty as past Targaryens.

So, I just finished book 5 a few weeks ago and just found this thread again.. but I've been led to believe that Danny's "nephew or whatever" that Tyrion was going down the river with for a little while might be the "false dragon" that Danny was warned about in her prophecy...

mocat · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2013, 09:55:13 AM »

i'm going to have to re-read all these stupid books before the 6th one, aren't I? i don't remember a lot

CNS · « **Reply #42 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:10:51 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 18, 2013, 09:55:13 AM

i'm going to have to re-read all these stupid books before the 6th one, aren't I? i don't remember a lot

Yeah. I think I will read the last one at least. I googled book 6 to see if there was a projected time for release yet and I think it said late 2014, but that was moved from late 2013, so who knows when it will finally come. I am pretty confident in saying that GRRM won't finish it. He is old and has subscribed to the Fitz method of taking care of one's self in old age.

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:13:59 AM »

Yeah, I keep getting confused between Frog (Quentyn Martell?) who somehow had "dragon blood" and Griff (Aegon?) who is Dany's nephew.

mocat · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:21:45 AM »

i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:23:41 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 18, 2013, 11:21:45 AM

i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead

Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:27:04 AM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2013, 11:23:41 AM

Quote from: mocat on October 18, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead

Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?

nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #47 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:30:13 AM »

Quote from: Metalhead on October 18, 2013, 11:27:04 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
Quote from: mocat on October 18, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead

Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?

nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.

yea.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Quentyn_Martell

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #48 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:40:59 AM »

Quote from: Metalhead on October 18, 2013, 11:27:04 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
Quote from: mocat on October 18, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
i'm pretty confident that Quentyn is dead

Yeah, he's the one that offered to be Dany's husband then let out her dragon (because he thought his dragon blood would protect him) and it killed him. But how was he related to the Targgaryens?

nephew of Rhaegar's wife Elia, however she's only a Targaryen by marriage if I remember correctly.

I just found that he's related to them back further in his bloodline.

"I can trace my lineage back to the first Daenerys, the Targaryen princess who was sister to King Daeron the Good and wife to the Prince of Dorne."

LHarKSUCat · « **Reply #49 on:** October 18, 2013, 12:45:57 PM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2013, 11:13:59 AM

Yeah, I keep getting confused between Frog (Quentyn Martell?) who somehow had "dragon blood" and Griff (Aegon?) who is Dany's nephew.

Aegon is *supposedly* Dany's nephew..
She receives a warning from Quaithe (the chick with her face hidden by a mask all the time)

"The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare, and after her the others. Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun's son and the mummer's dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal."

The glass candles are burning at the Citadel in Oldtown.. The pale mare was the bloody flux running rampant through slavers bay.. Kraken (Victarion Greyjoyh) and dark flame (Moqorro the red priest that Victarion saved from the shipwreck that Jorah and Tyrion were both in as well), Lion and Griffin (Tyrion and John Connington), Sun's Son (Quentyn) and Mummer's Dragon (Aegon).