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Offline MakeItRain

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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2013, 05:06:47 PM »
Quote from: ksudeuce on February 11, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: sys on February 11, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes.  fine all game.  my goodness but some of you are weird.

You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?

It could. Doesn't mean we are going to get blown out because of it anymore than KU not getting blown out because they don't have a point guard and can't shoot.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2013, 05:07:46 PM »
Quote from: Jakesie60 on February 11, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: ksudeuce on February 11, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: sys on February 11, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
kstate'll be fine in the first 8 minutes.  fine all game.  my goodness but some of you are weird.

You're not worried about our piss poor transition D biting us in the ass early tonight?

Didn't hurt us last time we played KU.

You're right, but it's definitely a possibility.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2013, 05:08:04 PM »
This game is all about Withey.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2013, 05:11:32 PM »
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on February 11, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.

I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:

Quote from: Hoiberg
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."

...

“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”

...

“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”

Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2013, 05:14:13 PM »
we lost in the bram because we missed like 900 wide open shots.  if we play the exact same way and only miss 450 wide open shots, we should be ok.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #105 on: February 11, 2013, 05:25:51 PM »
Believing that KSU will perform well tonight in AFH is basically the quintesential definition of 'faith.' 

"firm belief in something for which there is no proof." 

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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #106 on: February 11, 2013, 05:37:04 PM »
I get the transition defense point, but it sticks out because when we get beat its really bad, but it's not common. Over the season, we haven't given up a ton of fast break points. I don't think it's a big factor in this game.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2013, 05:40:12 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 11, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
I get the transition defense point, but it sticks out because when we get beat its really bad, but it's not common. Over the season, we haven't given up a ton of fast break points. I don't think it's a big factor in this game.

Fast break points usually are a pretty big factor when we lose in Allen Fieldhouse. But, their guard play is not great this year, so I could see it being a minimal factor in this particular game.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #108 on: February 11, 2013, 06:06:21 PM »
Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse.  It's just a basketball court.  Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years.  It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit.  It is because of a significant talent disparity.  A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #109 on: February 11, 2013, 06:14:43 PM »
Quote from: 8manpick on February 11, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse.  It's just a basketball court.  Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years.  It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit.  It is because of a significant talent disparity.  A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.

The refs!! The refs!!!  :runaway:
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #110 on: February 11, 2013, 06:14:55 PM »
Guys makes sure to set your DVR tonight and save yourself the $30 it'll cost you to buy the DVD of this ass kicking  :bball:
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #111 on: February 11, 2013, 06:15:15 PM »
Matchups

Withey/Gipson
Young/Southwell
McLemore/McGruder - Push, maybe slight McGruder because of defense.  ORating is even in conference play.
Relaford/Spradling
Johnson/#teamAngel

Tharpe/Irving
Ellis/Henriquez
Traylor/Williams :dunno:
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #112 on: February 11, 2013, 07:05:02 PM »
Quote from: 8manpick on February 11, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse.  It's just a basketball court.  Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years.  It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit.  It is because of a significant talent disparity.  A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.

8man, you are fighting the good fight and I'm with you.

We can do this.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2013, 07:14:49 PM »
Quote from: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on February 11, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.

I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:

Quote from: Hoiberg
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."

...

“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”

...

“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”

Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...

can't tell if serious...
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #114 on: February 11, 2013, 07:16:03 PM »
Prediction at the 8 minute mark: 18 - 8 KU

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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #115 on: February 11, 2013, 07:21:27 PM »
i agree that we're totally mumped tonight
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #116 on: February 11, 2013, 07:48:25 PM »
Quote from: 8manpick on February 11, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Guys, we are playing against KU at Allen Fieldhouse, not against KU and Allen Fieldhouse.  It's just a basketball court.  Sure they have dominated us there for the last 25 years, but they also dominated us here just as bad for the last 25 years.  It is because they have almost always been significantly better than us, not because they were "in our heads" or we were "scared of playing them there" or some bullshit.  It is because of a significant talent disparity.  A disparity that really doesn't exist this year.

The superior talent played a big part, but KU loses to less talented teams every year - it's just almost never kstate. There is more to it than that. Case in point, KU is weak this year, but they still beat us at home, and were gonna lose worse in Allen. Bounce back against Baylor.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #117 on: February 11, 2013, 07:48:25 PM »
Quote from: yosh on February 11, 2013, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on February 11, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Hopefully Self scouted Sprads like Hoiberg.

I actually have a copy of The Mayor's scouting report on the Cats. Here it is:

Quote from: Hoiberg
"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into Hernandez and he just blocks your crap."

...

“Keep them out of the lane. Don't let them run any of their crap. When they let Angel and Rodney go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”

...

“I think you want to make them play faster with Gipson. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Octagon of Doom crap. You can't let them get on those big runs.”

Yep, no mention of Spradling. No wonder he had a big game.
But Kellis said...

can't tell if serious...
I used italics instead of (!) for the sarcasm.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2013, 08:08:53 PM »
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 11, 2013, 05:06:47 PM
It could. Doesn't mean we are going to get blown out because of it anymore than KU not getting blown out because they don't have a point guard and can't shoot.

yeah, their guards are crap.  they were lucky in mhk.  don't think they'll be as lucky tonight.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2013, 08:40:20 PM »
Sorry it took 10 min
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First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2013, 08:42:42 PM »
of course
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2013, 08:48:25 PM »
Quote from: Super PurpleCat on February 11, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
This is gonna hurt so bad when we lose.

Welp.

For those of you who still deluded yourselves into thinking this perfect storm of KU anus-raping wasn't going to happen tonight I salute your tuckish behavior.
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #122 on: February 11, 2013, 08:51:40 PM »
Same rough ridin' crap
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #123 on: February 11, 2013, 08:53:09 PM »
It still kinda hurts even when you know it's coming
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Re: First 8 Minutes at AFH
« Reply #124 on: February 11, 2013, 08:55:33 PM »
They could show up with 3 players in AFH and Rod and co would still poop themselves. What a bunch of pussies.
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